TFW Afrecho wrote: Is it me or the KO box says TAKASA TONY and a C is placed where the Autobot logo was??
mooncake623 wrote:I really hate these KOs... if you preorder the official versions when they come out from Japan they cost the same thing anyway. Why are people so happy to pay $40 for a KO when you can get the original for the same thing. I brought 2 MP Wheeljack for $75.70 shipping was like 7 dollars SAL register.. Why some people support these KOs is mind boggling it's going to Kill the Masterpiece line.
TSU: I paid $2.85 more for the real thing. I hope you feel bad when the line gets discontinue.
necr0blivion wrote:I almost posted the same thing earlier but I stopped myself for 2 reasons:
1). Those preorders from Japanese sites usually sell out very quickly. Not everyone is fortunate enough to get their orders in timely, and not everyone has the time to keep checking for the time when the preorder is put up. The alternatives are to buy from local retailers at the marked-up price, wait for the Hasbro version (which may or may not be cheaper), wait for a good deal if the figures don't sell out, or simply don't get the figure.
2). Some people don't have the disposable income to pay for these but they still want them. It's either an economic restraint on the consumer or it's just being a cheapskate.
However, I do agree with your sentiment that there has to be sustainable market to continue buying official products if we continue to enjoy them. And in this particular instance, to "complete a set" (if that's ever a possibility).
I ordered 2 of WJ when HLJ had him listed and paid roughly $60/ea with shipping factored in. I sold one to a friend who has financial restraints but would love to have an MP collection. I told him basically what you said above, sometimes buying legit product can cost as much or slightly higher than KO. I may have to
Hopefully I did my part to nullify at least one KO purchase. I love MPs and want this line to continue. Maybe if it were easier to consistently get the official product at a cheaper price, others will follow through and the KO market will not have the financial incentive to keep up their production.
mooncake623 wrote:I really hate these KOs... if you preorder the official versions when they come out from Japan they cost the same thing anyway. Why are people so happy to pay $40 for a KO when you can get the original for the same thing. I brought 2 MP Wheeljack for $75.70 shipping was like 7 dollars SAL register.. Why some people support these KOs is mind boggling it's going to Kill the Masterpiece line.
TSU: I paid $2.85 more for the real thing. I hope you feel bad when the line gets discontinue.
Tsutsukakushi wrote:mooncake623 wrote:I really hate these KOs... if you preorder the official versions when they come out from Japan they cost the same thing anyway. Why are people so happy to pay $40 for a KO when you can get the original for the same thing. I brought 2 MP Wheeljack for $75.70 shipping was like 7 dollars SAL register.. Why some people support these KOs is mind boggling it's going to Kill the Masterpiece line.
TSU: I paid $2.85 more for the real thing. I hope you feel bad when the line gets discontinue.
Last I checked, Some overseas sites were charging over $50 for the official Takara MP Voyager class cars bots. Shipping was not free, It cost over $20.
Please can you provide a site with a link to show me where you paid $75 with $7 shipping for Two official Takara MP Voyager class cars bots.
mooncake623 wrote:necr0blivion wrote:I almost posted the same thing earlier but I stopped myself for 2 reasons:
1). Those preorders from Japanese sites usually sell out very quickly. Not everyone is fortunate enough to get their orders in timely, and not everyone has the time to keep checking for the time when the preorder is put up. The alternatives are to buy from local retailers at the marked-up price, wait for the Hasbro version (which may or may not be cheaper), wait for a good deal if the figures don't sell out, or simply don't get the figure.
2). Some people don't have the disposable income to pay for these but they still want them. It's either an economic restraint on the consumer or it's just being a cheapskate.
However, I do agree with your sentiment that there has to be sustainable market to continue buying official products if we continue to enjoy them. And in this particular instance, to "complete a set" (if that's ever a possibility).
I ordered 2 of WJ when HLJ had him listed and paid roughly $60/ea with shipping factored in. I sold one to a friend who has financial restraints but would love to have an MP collection. I told him basically what you said above, sometimes buying legit product can cost as much or slightly higher than KO. I may have to
Hopefully I did my part to nullify at least one KO purchase. I love MPs and want this line to continue. Maybe if it were easier to consistently get the official product at a cheaper price, others will follow through and the KO market will not have the financial incentive to keep up their production.
http://www.hlj.com/product/TKT83175/Sci
Here is Tracks at HLJ for 6000 yen. This has been up for pre-order for since March 12th. So you get quit a bit of window. And you don't have to put any money until it comes in Stock at HLJ
Next thing you know you get people in 6 months begging for a KO of tracks.
Tsutsukakushi wrote:mooncake623 wrote:necr0blivion wrote:I almost posted the same thing earlier but I stopped myself for 2 reasons:
1). Those preorders from Japanese sites usually sell out very quickly. Not everyone is fortunate enough to get their orders in timely, and not everyone has the time to keep checking for the time when the preorder is put up. The alternatives are to buy from local retailers at the marked-up price, wait for the Hasbro version (which may or may not be cheaper), wait for a good deal if the figures don't sell out, or simply don't get the figure.
2). Some people don't have the disposable income to pay for these but they still want them. It's either an economic restraint on the consumer or it's just being a cheapskate.
However, I do agree with your sentiment that there has to be sustainable market to continue buying official products if we continue to enjoy them. And in this particular instance, to "complete a set" (if that's ever a possibility).
I ordered 2 of WJ when HLJ had him listed and paid roughly $60/ea with shipping factored in. I sold one to a friend who has financial restraints but would love to have an MP collection. I told him basically what you said above, sometimes buying legit product can cost as much or slightly higher than KO. I may have to
Hopefully I did my part to nullify at least one KO purchase. I love MPs and want this line to continue. Maybe if it were easier to consistently get the official product at a cheaper price, others will follow through and the KO market will not have the financial incentive to keep up their production.
http://www.hlj.com/product/TKT83175/Sci
Here is Tracks at HLJ for 6000 yen. This has been up for pre-order for since March 12th. So you get quit a bit of window. And you don't have to put any money until it comes in Stock at HLJ
Next thing you know you get people in 6 months begging for a KO of tracks.
Just put that 6000 Yen in a currency converter. it's converts to $50.63.
While that $50.63 for Takara MP Tracks may seem low. Often times these overseas sites charge around $22.50 for shipping to American buyers. The total including shipping comes to around $73.
Tsutsukakushi wrote:mooncake623 wrote:necr0blivion wrote:I almost posted the same thing earlier but I stopped myself for 2 reasons:
1). Those preorders from Japanese sites usually sell out very quickly. Not everyone is fortunate enough to get their orders in timely, and not everyone has the time to keep checking for the time when the preorder is put up. The alternatives are to buy from local retailers at the marked-up price, wait for the Hasbro version (which may or may not be cheaper), wait for a good deal if the figures don't sell out, or simply don't get the figure.
2). Some people don't have the disposable income to pay for these but they still want them. It's either an economic restraint on the consumer or it's just being a cheapskate.
However, I do agree with your sentiment that there has to be sustainable market to continue buying official products if we continue to enjoy them. And in this particular instance, to "complete a set" (if that's ever a possibility).
I ordered 2 of WJ when HLJ had him listed and paid roughly $60/ea with shipping factored in. I sold one to a friend who has financial restraints but would love to have an MP collection. I told him basically what you said above, sometimes buying legit product can cost as much or slightly higher than KO. I may have to
Hopefully I did my part to nullify at least one KO purchase. I love MPs and want this line to continue. Maybe if it were easier to consistently get the official product at a cheaper price, others will follow through and the KO market will not have the financial incentive to keep up their production.
http://www.hlj.com/product/TKT83175/Sci
Here is Tracks at HLJ for 6000 yen. This has been up for pre-order for since March 12th. So you get quit a bit of window. And you don't have to put any money until it comes in Stock at HLJ
Next thing you know you get people in 6 months begging for a KO of tracks.
Just put that 6000 Yen in a currency converter. it's converts to $50.63.
While that $50.63 for Takara MP Tracks may seem low. Often times these overseas sites charge around $22.50 for shipping to American buyers. The total including shipping comes to around $73.
mooncake wrote: Wheeljacks is long gone.
mooncake623 wrote:Here's Tracks http://www.hlj.com/product/TKT83175/Sci
Tsutsukakushi wrote:mooncake wrote: Wheeljacks is long gone.
No link means I can't confirm the info for myself.
mooncake623 wrote:Here's Tracks http://www.hlj.com/product/TKT83175/Sci
At least here, I can click on a link and confirm this info for myself.
6000 yen put into a USA Currency converter, converts to $50.63.
While the $50.63 may seem low. It simply does not include the high shipping cost from overseas to American buyers.
Most overseas sites charge around $22.50 for shipping to american buyers. so the complete total for a Takara MP Tracks including shipping is around $73.
Paying $73 is no longer a bargain. As most American based import sites charge around $79.99 for a Takara MP Tracks.
TFAddict wrote:Agree on that we should support the originals. I suppose the original sale volume is so great anyways, therefore Takara Tomy doesn't really make such big deal our of it (according to TFWiki.net)
The fact that the KOs does intentionally spell differently, put the logo somewhere else does show the respect - they could have just scanned box if they are like those copy cats in, say, Louis Vuitton's case.
Also, there are many just curious to see what it is or put it in vehicle mode besides their originals.
I don't hate those buy KOs, I also have a lot of respect to the designers.
Tsutsukakushi wrote:This will be my last post in this thread. As i'm not here to argue with anyone or be overly repeative.
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