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Re: Legacy United Titan Tidal Wave Thread

Postby Sabrblade » Mon Dec 11, 2023 11:50 am

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noctorro wrote:However, are there any giant Transformers characters left?
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Re: Legacy United Titan Tidal Wave Thread

Postby Till-all-R1 » Mon Dec 11, 2023 7:39 pm

Logically and thematically speaking Ramjet would make more sense than another Tidal Wave simply because of the tie-in aspect, aircraft on an aircraft carrier. I mean who in their right mind can't see it?
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Re: Legacy United Titan Tidal Wave Thread

Postby noctorro » Tue Dec 12, 2023 10:22 am

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Re: Legacy United Titan Tidal Wave Thread

Postby Sabrblade » Tue Dec 12, 2023 11:22 am

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noctorro wrote:Powerrangers not included :p
If they were, would they be eaten by that monstrocity?
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Re: Legacy United Titan Tidal Wave Thread

Postby Emerje » Wed Dec 13, 2023 3:05 am

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I don't know why I posted this here, I'm going to rewrite it for the Legacy thread and news it for the heck of it...

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Re: Legacy United Titan Tidal Wave Thread

Postby Sabrblade » Wed Dec 13, 2023 10:47 am

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Emerje wrote:I don't know why I posted this here, I'm going to rewrite it for the Legacy thread and news it for the heck of it...

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Or, you could just take the existing news post you made out of this thread and merge it into the Legacy thread. ;)
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Re: Legacy United Titan Tidal Wave Thread

Postby Emerje » Wed Dec 13, 2023 10:50 pm

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Emerje wrote:I don't know why I posted this here, I'm going to rewrite it for the Legacy thread and news it for the heck of it...

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Or, you could just take the existing news post you made out of this thread and merge it into the Legacy thread. ;)

If I could I certainly would have, but my forum powers don't extend that far.

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Sam Smith Talks Tidal Wave in Massive Info Dump with Videos and Box Art

Postby Emerje » Thu Dec 14, 2023 9:00 am

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Ready for another serving of Tidal Wave news? Thanks to Transformers design team member Sam Smith (by way of our own Seibertronian Sabrblade) we have a rather hefty load of info on Megatron's #1 fan! Plus we've got a video at the bottom of the turnarounds that Sam shared on Instagram (mirrored on YouTube by Cybertron 21) and our first look at the amazing box art!

Sabrblade wrote:Tidal Wave designer notes from Sam Smith. Click each link to see all the pictures and videos:

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Transformers Legacy United - Titan Tidal Wave

“Tidal Wave, Tidal Wave, Tidal Wave”

With the daunting chant on impending doom and having been officially announced at Cybertron Fest Singapore, let’s get into the details of Titan Tidal Wave. With the launch of Legacy United, we knew that there was no greater time to revisit this character at the titan scale. This guy was a blast to work on, but we had so many priorities we needed to define out of the gate. As a Titan, Tidal Wave needed to deliver a large scale super articulated robot. As a vehicle, he needed to deliver a large flying aquatic war craft, which needed to be assembled out of 3 smaller vehicle form factors (the dark fleet). Tidal Wave needed to combine with Armada Megatron, to create Burning Megatron and we felt that he needed to have an alt mode that was achievable without the need to separate the vehicles in assembly. I’d like to say that we were able to achieve 4 out of the 5, but in the end, we did them all!

Shogo Hasui (Hasui san) was an absolute rockstar to work with on this project, and continued to find incredible solutions in delivering such a massive undertaking. He continued to push this figure forward despite all the curve balls that we through to him.

In the end Tidal Wave delivers a super articulated Titan robot, with waist, ankle, clever butterfly shoulders, wrist and neck. His chest weaponry all 8 turrets points are articulated for rotation, with the larger 4 featuring articulated barrels and 5mm ports for blast effect compatibility. In addition, his palm cannons also used 5mm ports that can be utilized in robot and alt mode

Tidal Waves color spec is primary based on the Armada animation with a few pieces of influence from the original toy, similar to Armada Megatron.

What are your thoughts on Titan Tidal Wave? Was he a worthy selection for the next titan figure? Our would you have preferred to have seen him at a smaller scale? Let us know along with any other questions in the comments below!

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Transformers Legacy United - Titan Tidal Wave - Alt Mode

We decided early on, the importance of delivering the dark fleet as 3 separate vehicles to align to the original toy, and the consistent onscreen combination sequence that took place on screen. Due to this figure being super articulated, we would not be able to have him transform from robot to combined war craft without separating the vehicle forms. In order to avoid having him be referred to as a parts former, we introduced a secondary alt mode as a battle station / weapons fortress.

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Transformers Legacy United - Titan Tidal Wave - Combined Burning Megatron

In order to combine with Megatron to create Burning Megatron, miniature versions of the dark fleet can be extracted from various parts of Tidal Wave in order to combine. To avoid being left with a partial titan during the combination, we introduced a secondary transformation to the hands to keep them in tact so that a very in tact titan figure remains. The miniature versions are able able to be displayed as mini dark fleet vehicles, that convert into their armored accessories for Megatron.

To assist with the added weight of the components, and to deliver a more frightening Megatron, Foot extensions are included to raise the characters height, along with the ability to port the arm weaponry into the sides of the arms or the upper shoulders.

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Re: Legacy United Titan Tidal Wave Thread

Postby Emerje » Thu Dec 14, 2023 9:38 am

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Soooo, are any of the bots on the box art actually recognizable as real characters? I'm stumped though the two in the water look a little familiar. Are they generics from the Armada cartoon? I looked through Insecticons.com and didn't really see any matches.

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Re: Legacy United Titan Tidal Wave Thread

Postby Rodimus Prime » Thu Dec 14, 2023 10:28 am

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I'm loving that battlestation mode. I can't wait to get this figure, it's been a while since I was this excited for a new release.
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Re: Legacy United Titan Tidal Wave Thread

Postby Overcracker » Thu Dec 14, 2023 10:48 am

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Emerje wrote:Soooo, are any of the bots on the box art actually recognizable as real characters? I'm stumped though the two in the water look a little familiar. Are they generics from the Armada cartoon? I looked through Insecticons.com and didn't really see any matches.

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Can't see any that I recognize as actual characters.

I can se a brown guy on the left that appears to turn into a car.
An Impactor-ey looking dude by TW's right leg in the water. Near him someone that looks vaguely like R.I.D Tow-line.

Blue and gray, Beachcomb-ey guy. Green and purple dude on TW's knee(no clue), some guy with striped legs and a blue chest, I know I've seen the color scheme some where but can't place it. Reminds me oof G2 Spark, but it's not right, because the stripes were only in his truck mode.
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Re: Legacy United Titan Tidal Wave Thread

Postby Emerje » Thu Dec 14, 2023 11:06 am

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I really have to wonder why they gave the part that goes on Megatron's back articulated feet. It's not part the boat mode or needed for storage. Vestigial parts from when they were hoping to make a mini Tidal Wave perhaps?

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Re: Legacy United Titan Tidal Wave Thread

Postby DeathReviews » Thu Dec 14, 2023 11:49 am

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Sigh. Why is it that the battlestation/city modes for the Titan figures are always just the robot mode lying spread-eagled on their backs? It looks like someone punched Tidal Wave in the face and he's just lying there, keeled over, with tweety birds circling around his head...

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Re: Legacy United Titan Tidal Wave Thread

Postby Sabrblade » Thu Dec 14, 2023 11:52 am

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DeathReviews wrote:Sigh. Why is it that the battlestation/city modes for the Titan figures are always just the robot mode lying spread-eagled on their backs?
Because that's how it was done back in 1986-1987? Metroplex, Trypticon, Fortress Maximus, and Scorponok all played dead for their city/base modes.
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Re: Legacy United Titan Tidal Wave Thread

Postby Stormshot_Prime » Thu Dec 14, 2023 12:01 pm

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Gah I’m so mad I haven’t been able to grab any Legacy Armada figs yet. I really want to rebuild my childhood collection, they’re really going through the OG cast. Just need Red Alert, Demolisher, and a Cyclonus!

Plus, that box art is amazing. Totally reminiscent of the Island level from the PS2 Armada game, in which you have to fight a Titan sized Tidal Wave. Best boss in the game too.
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Re: Legacy United Titan Tidal Wave Thread

Postby o.supreme » Thu Dec 14, 2023 12:11 pm

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noctorro wrote:However, are there any giant Transformers characters left?
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Why does nobody look at my Signature... :-( ....

j/k/... anyway... With Tidal Wave having a "Base Mode", one would almost assuredly think there would be AIRLOCK connectors somewhere. I mean even the Nemesis had them which wasn't necessary, but a nice touch. Anyone spot any yet? If there are none, that makes this so much easier to pass on. If there are, it will have to be an almost 1/2 off deal (Like Cybertron Metroplex). Although admittedly, this looks much better than Cybertron Metroplex.
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Re: Legacy United Titan Tidal Wave Thread

Postby SynchroBunny » Thu Dec 14, 2023 12:39 pm

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noctorro wrote:I agree with Overlord. However, are there any giant Transformers characters left?
Cyberverse Titan ... Croaton? Or whatever he was called.
Animated Omega Supreme (not going to happen).



G1 Broadside? 2025, simultaneous release of Broadside in every size class so it's toon accurate since they couldn't keep his scale correct.

Wouldn't Animated Omega pretty much just be an Ark recolour? Though... didn't his arms and torso form the back end of the ship?
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Re: Legacy United Titan Tidal Wave Thread

Postby Grahf_ » Thu Dec 14, 2023 4:38 pm

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I didn't read through every comment all the way and a few I mention were already mentioned but I tried to not restate titan class options too much.

Underbase powered G1 Starscream.

Omega Lock powered Cybertron Starscream. The scale chart someone posted earlier has him smaller than titan but oh well. I just want a titan Cybertron Starscream.

Energon Omega Supreme and Omega Sentinel.

Cybertron Menasor. But with Heavyload and maybe even Drillbit to make up the difference in his overall height compared to Metroplex. I don't think Quickmix and his Minicon would be titan though and would work well as a commander. Much like Cybertron Starscream, I just want a titan Menasor.

G1 Revenge.

G1 Victory. Nemesis retool?

BW Axalon.

BW Darksyde.

G1 Quintesson cruiser.

G1 Junkion ship, Minnow.

Prime Predaking? If only to get the wings and tail extremely articulated more than a commander would allow. He is pretty damn big compared to the rest too though. At least in dragon mode anyway. His size seems to fluctuate about as much as Tidal Wave and the already mentioned Broadside.

WFC Trilogy Astrotrain. He was titan sized for a while.

Guardian Command Center and Renegade Thruster. Both were made by Tonka and should be owned outright by Hasbro. Thruster can be an Ark retool. I seen someone mention Courageous and Grungy but those overall designs are owned by Bandai and most likely fall into that grey area most GoBots fall into. Or whatever is going on there.

Renegade Zod. Wasn't there a version or two of him that was enormous? One was based on Trypticon but there was another version too I think. Another GoBot design that should be owned outright by Hasbro. Commander could work for him just as well for the normal size.

BM Grand Mol.

Metrobase and Quintessa/Necrotitan. To go with Metroplex and the already mentioned Metrotitan. I'd want a new Metroplex mold first though.

Cyberverse Iaconus. To go with the already mentioned Croaton.

Lodestar. Ark retool?
Vigilem.
Prion.
Devisium.
Citadel.
Caminus.
Cargohold.
Chela.
Navitas.
Tempo.
Waypoint.
Emissary.

Some of those last ones don't have designs at all. Others have designs just of the alt mode. While others still are just designs of the robot or parts of the robot. Well...that I seen on the wiki anyway. But they're all titans one way or another and are at least named.

There's also multipacks that could work not unlike Haslab Victory Saber. It would help free up the commander class for other characters. With SS86 Ultra Magnus and the heavily rumored Optimus, people might have some pushback to see so many other Optimus figures as commanders.

God Ginrai. Maybe with the triple changing headmaster and/or cab from the original design sketches of PMOP as extra options or something? Two commander+?

Big Powered. A commander and two voyagers with their Micromasters each as core figures. Have a combined robot mode as well to take up some of the budget?

Battlestar Attack. A commander and two leaders. Grandus isn't titan sized himself as he's a Micromaster battlestation and not a full sized Cybertronian city as others have already pointed out. He's pretty much a glorified Modulator. So leader for him would be fine since he's so simple. Sky Garry is just as simple too so he can be another leader. Maybe have a combined robot mode for these three as well? Their Micromasters and cargo units can be sold separately and can add bulk to the combined mode after the fact like an upgrade kit of sorts.

Omega Prime. Two commander+? Maybe add their "Spy Changers" to make up the difference as two core class figures? A little combining Omega Prime set to go with the larger set.

Optimus Supreme? I already put Omega Supreme as his own titan but I don't fully think he needs to be. Optimus as a commander or leader and then the rest of the budget going to Omega. That could work. Then have Wing Saber as his own voyager or maybe even leader class release.

Cybertron Optimus, Wing Saber and Leobreaker? A commander and two leaders? Have a combined mode utilizing all three as well as the standard combined modes?

That's five more Optimus and another Magnus as potential commanders. So bumping them up to titan as multipacks could make sense. Selling them as sets with a version of Optimus in them should help them sell the lesser characters that might shelfwarm if sold on their own.

Just some random thoughts about the topic of what else they can do in the titan class. It doesn't have to be a single large figure as already seen with Devastator and Predaking.

Oh and I would love a titan Sky Lynx too but that might just be me. I always thought he should've been especially since his rival is Predaking and he's a titan. Earthrise Sky Lynx just isn't big enough to go against titan Predaking. He's big enough to go against Unique Toys Warlord though.
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Re: Legacy United Titan Tidal Wave Thread

Postby Stormshot_Prime » Thu Dec 14, 2023 4:48 pm

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G1 Quintesson cruiser.

BM Grand Mol.

Metrobase and Quintessa/Necrotitan. To go with Metroplex and the already mentioned Metrotitan. I'd want a new Metroplex mold first though.

Cyberverse Iaconus. To go with the already mentioned Croaton.

Chela.



You're so right for these ideas. When you think about it like this, there's still SO much untapped potential for Titan class figs. Personally, I would love to see more beast mode Titans. Trypticon looks great, and I know a Chela would be incredible. A golden, primal city for beast characters to be displayed on.

On the other hand, we are very overdue for a Quintesson ship! I'd never thought we'd see the Ark of Nemesis like we've gotten, but here we are. I would also love an Axalon and/or Darksyde, eff it, make all the ships Transformers!
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Re: Legacy United Titan Tidal Wave Thread

Postby Dino-Snarl » Thu Dec 14, 2023 7:00 pm

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noctorro wrote:However, are there any giant Transformers characters left?
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Why does nobody look at my Signature... :-( ....

j/k/... anyway... With Tidal Wave having a "Base Mode", one would almost assuredly think there would be AIRLOCK connectors somewhere. I mean even the Nemesis had them which wasn't necessary, but a nice touch. Anyone spot any yet? If there are none, that makes this so much easier to pass on. If there are, it will have to be an almost 1/2 off deal (Like Cybertron Metroplex). Although admittedly, this looks much better than Cybertron Metroplex.


That robot mode reminds us of Force Five from the 80s. Loved those 3 series and others.
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Re: Legacy United Titan Tidal Wave Thread

Postby Dino-Snarl » Thu Dec 14, 2023 7:02 pm

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Love it more. So getting it. Confused though with Megs. Maybe we didn't read it. A new one to be released to combine with "TIDAL WAVE?"
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Re: Legacy United Titan Tidal Wave Thread

Postby o.supreme » Thu Dec 14, 2023 8:05 pm

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That robot mode reminds us of Force Five from the 80s. Loved those 3 series and others.


Well considering Super Robots are in the ancestral line of Transformers, that makes sense. I could definitely see Majin Zarak taking on a contingent of Go Nagai's finest. :-D

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Re: Legacy United Titan Tidal Wave Thread

Postby Dino-Snarl » Thu Dec 14, 2023 8:11 pm

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Dino-Snarl wrote:
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That robot mode reminds us of Force Five from the 80s. Loved those 3 series and others.


Well considering Super Robots are in the ancestral line of Transformers, that makes sense. I could definitely see Majin Zarak taking on a contingent of Go Nagai's finest. :-D



Would love to see that!
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Re: Legacy United Titan Tidal Wave Thread

Postby Emerje » Thu Dec 14, 2023 8:51 pm

Motto: "Spellcheck's antithesis."
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His base mode is actually more involved than most since it requires a lot of parts forming. All of the "mini parts" are removed and added on to form towers and ramps, and his chest pops out to make two stories. Plus the guns can be popped off and arranged in different places.

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Dino-Snarl wrote:Love it more. So getting it. Confused though with Megs. Maybe we didn't read it. A new one to be released to combine with "TIDAL WAVE?"

Same figure, but part of Tidal Wave includes new feet add-ons for Megatron to make him taller. You can see them on the top of the ship to the right.

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Re: Legacy United Titan Tidal Wave Thread

Postby Dino-Snarl » Fri Dec 15, 2023 5:28 am

Motto: ""Only in war is there happiness.""
Weapon: Thermal Sword
Emerje wrote:His base mode is actually more involved than most since it requires a lot of parts forming. All of the "mini parts" are removed and added on to form towers and ramps, and his chest pops out to make two stories. Plus the guns can be popped off and arranged in different places.

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Dino-Snarl wrote:Love it more. So getting it. Confused though with Megs. Maybe we didn't read it. A new one to be released to combine with "TIDAL WAVE?"

Same figure, but part of Tidal Wave includes new feet add-ons for Megatron to make him taller. You can see them on the top of the ship to the right.

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Yes now we see it. Thanks! Might need Megs now :-D
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