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News Credits: 1 · by **ChrisR291** » Sun Feb 11, 2007 12:24 am

http://cgi.ebay.com/Transformer-New-G1- ... dZViewItem

I'd actually buy that if it didn't cost so much. I can get a lose original for that much. A high priced KO kinda defeats the purpose doesn't it?

News Credits: 1 · by **ChrisR291** » Sun Feb 11, 2007 12:29 am

http://cgi.ebay.com/Transformers-G1-Din ... dZViewItem

Here are some photos of a loose Swoop, doesn't look too bad
:-?

News Credits: 409 · by **Stormrider** » Sun Feb 11, 2007 1:12 am

This is a bit scary. When KO can look this good, how do you spot them from the real ones? The box, the bot, and the even the booklets seem to match.

In this particular case, it is easy to spot because the real Swoop had foam inserts. However, in the future the fakes might become very difficult to spot. This is not good if you are a TF collector/investor. I hope Takara and Hasbro think of some way to address this issue.

News Credits: 226 · by **Burn** » Sun Feb 11, 2007 2:21 am

****.

I have enough trouble trying to find a nice Swoop that's affordable. Now the flippin' market is going to be flooded with these bastards. :-(

News Credits: 409 · by **Stormrider** » Sun Feb 11, 2007 2:27 am

ChrisR291 wrote:http://cgi.ebay.com/Transformers-G1-Dinobot-Swoop-MISB_W0QQitemZ150090253262QQihZ005QQcategoryZ4696QQrdZ1QQssPageNameZWD1VQQcmdZViewItem

Here are some photos of a loose Swoop, doesn't look too bad

This one is misleading because it doesn't state that it's a KO.

by **Dclone Soundwave** » Sun Feb 11, 2007 2:42 am

I thought the original release of Swoop & the other Dinobots all had plastic inserts......maybe I'm imagnining things.....but I don't think so......but this is quite nice......luckily I don't need it, I got a REAL G1 Swoop.

*edit* Did anybody else notice that at the ned of the decription it said "Don't miss your chance to collet this rare Star Wars"? WTF? I dunno.....these sellers.......wanko!!

News Credits: 1 · by **Redimus** » Sun Feb 11, 2007 2:53 am

I suspect the price may have something to do with his rarety outside the US, we never got him in the UK for instence.

News Credits: 3 · by **Barricade** » Sun Feb 11, 2007 8:34 am

the 1st one says it's a ko in the discription..... i wonder where you buy these at :-?

News Credits: 15 · by **Ravage XK** » Sun Feb 11, 2007 8:40 am

How much!

If there are loads of these then the price reflects the hope that someone wont realise its a KO.

Nothing wrong with a KO if you cant get the real thing but the price has to be right.

News Credits: 3 · by **Flint** » Sun Feb 11, 2007 9:13 am

It's a shame the price is so high, if it was half of that I would order one.

However I will still be looking out for the KO Ratbat.

by **Windsweeper** » Sun Feb 11, 2007 9:24 am

http://cgi.ebay.ie/Transformers-KO-G1-R ... dZViewItem

You mean this?

News Credits: 3 · by **muswp1** » Sun Feb 11, 2007 9:26 am

There is no way I am paying that much for a KO. I can get a vintage one for that much.

News Credits: 2 · by **Autobobby1** » Sun Feb 11, 2007 9:26 am

I'd buy that if it wasn't so expensive. I mean, Jesus! The original ones out of box cost less than that modern knock-off!

News Credits: 409 · by **Stormrider** » Sun Feb 11, 2007 10:48 pm

Windsweeper wrote:http://cgi.ebay.ie/Transformers-KO-G1-Ratbat-and-Frenzy_W0QQitemZ180084734299QQihZ008QQcategoryZ4696QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem

You mean this?

I don't understand how the KO can get away with have the Hasbro logo on the package.

News Credits: 409 · by **Stormrider** » Sun Feb 11, 2007 10:50 pm

Decepticlone Soundwave wrote:I thought the original release of Swoop & the other Dinobots all had plastic inserts......maybe I'm imagnining things.....but I don't think so......but this is quite nice......luckily I don't need it, I got a REAL G1 Swoop.

Your right. I just came across this, which is disturbing. Will the real Swoop step forward?

http://cgi.ebay.com/Transformers-G1-100 ... otohosting

News Credits: 3 · by **buddha-con** » Sun Feb 11, 2007 10:54 pm

the knockoff doesnt have a rubsign on the wing.

by **Gutter Bunny** » Sun Feb 11, 2007 10:57 pm

this is the exact issue i've been having trying to find a quality rumble/frenzy. So many ko's so few people willing to admit thats what they are

by **darthziv** » Tue Sep 04, 2007 9:11 am

hey guys, sorry to response so late to this
i just bought 3 swoops (1 for myself, the rest for gifts/to sell in my country where swoops dont roam free)
and a few cassetes...

one of the swoops is too good to be real
one of them has a problem with one of it's launchers (not connecting as good as it should)
but while the first two seems real enough, the third one...
i just know its a fake, its wheel feels odd, his beak seems different from the other two, his chrome free wings, dont seems to get all the way back to its back
something's fishy... i want to check it out, please assist
also? how do i check the cassetes?
pics will be added if needed
much thanks to all who will help