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by **synthetik** » Fri Apr 20, 2012 10:00 am

Buying it even if the color scheme doesn't eventually match. It's a bad ass set. PCC pegs worry me but at least it won't be that disgusting light blue color.

News Credits: 3 · by **metaphorge** » Fri Apr 20, 2012 10:07 am

That colourscheme looks like it would also look pretty great with PCC Steelshot (the Bombshock repaint):

This reminds me I need to track down some Heavytreads. At CVS, you say?

If the PCCs had come in more sensible colourschemes (with no translucence on the minicon partners) I would have bought every single one of them. As it is, there are some definite gems in the line, and if third parties can make better use of the ports than those dreadful drone super mode limbs there is plentiful fun to be mined here.

Too bed they didn't revisit Superlink Grand Convoy in PCC....

News Credits: 2 · by **Requiem Prime** » Fri Apr 20, 2012 10:38 am

rpetras wrote:I'm warming up to this idea.

I kind of like the thought of taking PCCs to their next logical step, of fully armored bots.

It is not too different that Ultra Magnus, where you have a central bot, and he has armor from a separate structure.

I like that they used the PCC ports so you can, if you want, integrate with some stuff you already have.

I kind of hope they make a slew of guys around this concept.

The only real shame is these are coming out now, and not when PCCs were on shelves at clearance prices.

THANK YOU

As for the timing, that's the bane of 3rd Party upgrade sets. Except for a few heads that were natural choices, the time it takes to design and produce these ideas is always after the fact. Best they can do without promising the moon and stars is concept scetches.

by **RAcast** » Fri Apr 20, 2012 10:51 am

I like EVERYTHING about this set.

And integration with the PCC figures? Great! I'm looking forward to this...I just hope it's reasonably price enough that I can justify buying it...

News Credits: 11 · by **kirbenvost** » Fri Apr 20, 2012 11:26 am

Hmm, kind of cool, but it isn't the color scheme I was expecting. Somehow I didn't realize it had PCC compatibility. While it's cool, since I sold off my entire PCC collection I have no interest in the line. It's still a possibility that I may bet this, but I'm less interested than before.

News Credits: 438 · by **Sabrblade** » Fri Apr 20, 2012 11:28 am

You know, with this color scheme, one could interpret/repurpose this as the pre-Fallen, non-evil, original Megatronus Prime. :-B

by **cylor** » Fri Apr 20, 2012 2:52 pm

El Duque wrote:
Mkall wrote:
Gauntlet101010 wrote:
Counterpunch wrote:
Mkall wrote:I can't say I see myself getting this. It's a neat concept and the engineering looks darned good, but I'm just not feeling it right now.

Yea.

I mean, what's the point here? I don't need PCC integration.

I see it more as a bonus. Like "here's an awesome Fallen figure. And he can work with PCC too, if you like!"

Honestly, I don't even see the resemblance to The Fallen yet.

This thing screams The Fallen to me:

For those who still doubt this is a homage to The Fallen: if you click any black and white picture of Mubine page on Maketoy's site, and open the pictures in another window (I'm using chrome), you can see that the pictures are named "fallen_04.jpg (1000-1411)", "fallen_05.jpg (1000x1364)" and so on.
See for yourself:

http://www.maketoys.jp/fallen_04.JPG
http://www.maketoys.jp/fallen_05.JPG
http://www.maketoys.jp/fallen_02.JPG

Hope I made myself clear, it's late and I'm not an English native speaker

News Credits: 1 · by **Sodan-1** » Fri Apr 20, 2012 4:00 pm

It's still a fantastic looking figure. I know this is the first time we've seen this piece with PCC figures, but there's been an awareness of the PCC connectors for some time so this isn't really all that surprising.

What is surprising is the colour scheme, and not in a good way. I don't think I'll be getting it in those colours.

Maybe this will be MakeToys' modus operandi: first release a set in seperate packages and in obscure colours, then release the boxset in the generally more desirable/correct colours. Annoying.

by **GunFire Alpha** » Fri Apr 20, 2012 4:32 pm

Now what I want to see is Heavytread in Combiner mode with that kit formed into his limbs!

by **trence5** » Fri Apr 20, 2012 5:34 pm

zodconvoy wrote:As long as both parts combine and look like the prototype we were shown, I'll still paint them black and orange and call it the Fallen.

Yes, yes

finally more info on this thing. I patiently await its coming

News Credits: 1452 · by **Blurrz** » Fri Apr 20, 2012 6:09 pm

That's pretty interesting. Seeing the prototype in person, just something I can't really not have in my collection. Will repaint it up if the colors aren't right.

News Credits: 409 · by **Stormrider** » Fri Apr 20, 2012 7:15 pm

I don't get it. What looked cool as a grey prototype looks like a lame parts former now.

News Credits: 402 · by **Mkall** » Fri Apr 20, 2012 7:25 pm

Stormrider wrote:I don't get it. What looked cool as a grey prototype looks like a lame parts former now.

Only because we're seeing half of the final product.

by **RAcast** » Fri Apr 20, 2012 8:06 pm

Mkall wrote:
Stormrider wrote:I don't get it. What looked cool as a grey prototype looks like a lame parts former now.

Only because we're seeing half of the final product.

And because an alternate function of the set is as a power-up armor of sorts. And as I'm sure we all know, more often than not, if you want to retain articulation, your power armor had better partsform. Non-partsforming power armors tend to restrict articulation, again not always, but more often than not.

News Credits: 409 · by **Stormrider** » Fri Apr 20, 2012 8:20 pm

I am sorry for being such a dounce, but why didn't Maketoys just build the Fallen from scratch from one figure instead of combining two different figures?

by **Rated X** » Fri Apr 20, 2012 8:25 pm

So this is just an upgrade for a crappy Hasbro figure, and not a scratch mold ???

News Credits: 402 · by **Mkall** » Fri Apr 20, 2012 8:26 pm

Stormrider wrote:I am sorry for being such a dounce, but why didn't Maketoys just build the Fallen from scratch from one figure instead of combining two different figures?

Honestly, I think in this case they came up with the idea for the figure(s), designed the altmode, then tacked on a representation of The Fallen to entice fans.

by **trence5** » Fri Apr 20, 2012 9:28 pm

Mkall wrote:
Stormrider wrote:I am sorry for being such a dounce, but why didn't Maketoys just build the Fallen from scratch from one figure instead of combining two different figures?

Honestly, I think in this case they came up with the idea for the figure(s), designed the altmode, then tacked on a representation of The Fallen to entice fans.

I hope you're wrong or I'll be sorely disappointed :-x

News Credits: 402 · by **Mkall** » Fri Apr 20, 2012 9:44 pm

trence5 wrote:
Mkall wrote:
Stormrider wrote:I am sorry for being such a dounce, but why didn't Maketoys just build the Fallen from scratch from one figure instead of combining two different figures?

Honestly, I think in this case they came up with the idea for the figure(s), designed the altmode, then tacked on a representation of The Fallen to entice fans.

I hope you're wrong or I'll be sorely disappointed

Maybe I am, I'm just going with how it seems to have been done according to my own personal biases on this figure.

Do I think it's a good transforming figure? Absolutely
Do I think it's a good representation of The Fallen, or Megatronus? No I don't

News Credits: 1 · by **Gauntlet101010** » Fri Apr 20, 2012 10:07 pm

Even if that is the case, it doesn't stop it brom being a great Fallen figure for people who like it. You can just ignore the PCC aspect of it and like it for what it is. This would be a must for me seeing as I don't have any PCCs save the Dinos and the Decepticon firetruck dude (blanking on the name now).

I think it's a pretty good theory. The Fallen has nothing to do with combiners and he DOES have an alt mode (revealed in MTMTE), which doesn't really look like this one's alt. mode.

News Credits: 767 · by **Dead Metal** » Fri Apr 20, 2012 11:53 pm

Rated X wrote:So this is just an upgrade for a crappy Hasbro figure, and not a scratch mold ???

No it's a scratch mold that turns into two upgrades for crappy Hasbro figures.

Well, at least now we know why they made the thing a parts former duocon.

News Credits: 5 · by **Doctor McGrath** » Sat Apr 21, 2012 2:01 am

The PCC integration does nothing for me, but if they release this in the Fallen's colors, I will preorder it instantly.

News Credits: 4 · by **craggy** » Sun Apr 22, 2012 12:08 pm

I'd like a 3rd party (or, hell, official Hasbro) Fallen that looks like that, and I like the idea of upgrades to the PCCs (actual limbs that transform into robots would be cool, but I'd settle for limbs that look like limbs) like this seems to be. Not sure I like them all being mushed together in one package. Will need to see more.

by **Mekatron** » Fri Aug 17, 2012 5:02 pm

Just saw this on TFW, apparently the image is in a booklet packed in with Green Giant (confirmation)? Surprised no one's made mention of it yet, as it's packed full of awesome. Could do without the smoke effects though... unless that's an action feature. Kind of dumb for them to tease this... I'll definitely be passing on the military-colored version of the figure and wait for this instead.