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Re: Masterpiece MP-12 Lambor/Sideswipe has arrived! In the UK and in my hands!!

Postby robotmel » Sat Oct 27, 2012 7:17 am

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Re: Masterpiece MP-12 Lambor/Sideswipe has arrived! In the UK and in my hands!!

Postby Fistful of Energon » Sat Oct 27, 2012 7:51 am

That waist looks a little mistransformed. Looks like Sideswipe is trying to squeeze an inch on us! :lol:
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Re: Masterpiece MP-12 Lambor/Sideswipe has arrived! In the UK and in my hands!!

Postby robotmel » Sat Oct 27, 2012 8:53 am

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Fistful of Energon wrote:That waist looks a little mistransformed. Looks like Sideswipe is trying to squeeze an inch on us! :lol:

;)
Yep, I bought a duff version I think! The torso has been pinned to the waist the wrong way around so his body cant fold into position correctly?
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Add to that his head is falling apart, badly glued together!
I have contacted the seller 366offer via Ebay but they say this is 'the worst problem theyve had,this month' so I need to send photos which they will then pass on to their warehouse for analysis?
I just hope they can send me another out in time!
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Re: Masterpiece MP-12 Lambor/Sideswipe has arrived! In the UK and in my hands!!

Postby Fistful of Energon » Sat Oct 27, 2012 2:08 pm

Sounds fishy but you never know. Hope everything works out for you!
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Re: Masterpiece MP-12 Lambor/Sideswipe has arrived! In the UK and in my hands!!

Postby SKYWARPED_128 » Sun Oct 28, 2012 9:51 pm

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The paint job on mine was really sloppy. Found a red paint chip in the left headlight, and the red paint on the sides were a mere mist coat. It's like my fricking MP-10 all over again.

I tell you, the guy in charge of QC must be perpetually drunk or watching soccer matches on his i-Pad during working hours.

@ robotmel: Can't you DIY it? Maybe get the pin out yourself and reassemble the torso? I've disassembled the elbow pins om my WFC Soundwave before, and it's pretty easy if you've got the right tools--a thin nail to push the pin out a little, and pliers to gently wiggle the rest of it out.
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Re: Masterpiece MP-12 Lambor/Sideswipe has arrived! In the UK and in my hands!!

Postby zappatton2 » Mon Oct 29, 2012 10:22 am

These reports of poor assembly and paints jobs are giving me anxiety!! Well, I've got my pre-order with BBTS, haven't heard anything from them yet, but I hope to get my hands on Sideswipe soon, if only to relieve my QC fears.
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Re: Masterpiece MP-12 Lambor/Sideswipe has arrived! In the UK and in my hands!!

Postby SkyWarpsGhost » Wed Oct 31, 2012 9:11 am

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QC on the paint on mine is terrible. Found 3 bad runs in the paint so far. Right forearm/door, Right shoulder and rear quarter panels on the car alt. Paint on the tail lights and roof are really sloppy too.
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Re: Masterpiece MP-12 Lambor/Sideswipe has arrived! In the UK and in my hands!!

Postby Ravage XK » Wed Oct 31, 2012 10:12 am

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Mine is waiting for me at home, thanks Kapow.

Hope it has no defects or Takara and I could fall out.
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Re: Masterpiece MP-12 Lambor/Sideswipe has arrived! In the UK and in my hands!!

Postby Ravage XK » Wed Oct 31, 2012 12:26 pm

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Ok, am home now and have inspected the car mode.

I see no runs in the paint, it's all nice and smooth.

BUT

The paint on the part of the car where the right hand wing mirror is mounted is very thin. This allows the black plastic underneath to show through which makes the red much darker than any of the rest. There are also a few small chips here and there. I see general differences in red across may panels, you notice it at the joins, it's not terrible but I would have expected some care to be taken for something so expensive.

Looking at the underside of the car there are bubbles or blobs of built up paint on the parts that look like they will the shoulders.

Not thrilled at the moment if I'm honest.

Time to transform......

Ok, that's done. Only bit that caused head scratching was folding his backpack correctly. Some parts a quite stiff and need more force than feels right.

Bot mode is ace, no loose joints. Feels plasticky but solid enough. I would say that it is on par or slightly more complex than most Binaltech figures and that is the line I would compare him to the most. I probably paid about twice what I used to pay for Binaltech figures, maybe a bit less. He is very expensive for what he is but I'm glad I purchased, not sure if I will go for Red Alert though - not unless I find him cheaper.

No other paint or finish issues were revealed in bot mode. I like the accessories, I got the set of silver pile drivers and a coin type thing mounted on card. Wasn't expecting them so a nice bonus.

8/10 - had he been cheaper and QC had been used he would be an easy 10/10
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Re: Masterpiece MP-12 Lambor/Sideswipe has arrived! In the UK and in my hands!!

Postby SKYWARPED_128 » Wed Oct 31, 2012 8:33 pm

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Ravage XK wrote:The paint on the part of the car where the right hand wing mirror is mounted is very thin. This allows the black plastic underneath to show through which makes the red much darker than any of the rest. There are also a few small chips here and there. I see general differences in red across may panels, you notice it at the joins, it's not terrible but I would have expected some care to be taken for something so expensive.


Mine had the same problem. The sides of the car mode had very light mist coats on same places you mentioned.

Black paint on the roof was off-center as well.

Well, at least you didn't have a paint chip stuck inside the headlight on yours. If it weren't for that, I wouldn't have bothered to get it exchanged. A simple spray of red on the sides of the car mode would have sufficed.
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Re: Masterpiece MP-12 Lambor/Sideswipe has arrived! In the UK and in my hands!!

Postby Mykltron » Thu Nov 01, 2012 4:19 am

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Sounds like I'd better not wait long before opening mine when he arrives.
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Re: Masterpiece MP-12 Lambor/Sideswipe has arrived! In the UK and in my hands!!

Postby robotmel » Thu Nov 01, 2012 6:23 am

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:-(
Its getting pretty disapointing to hear about the QC problems of MP-12 Lambor/Sideswipe.

Come on takara, whats all this about? :-(

I have finally got some up-close pictures of my faulty version which I bought via China based Ebay seller 366offer.

I have posted a few below for you guys to take a look at, just to be sure I am right in saying his torso has been pinned the wrong way around to his waist which stops his transformation? :???:
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This image seems to show the two-part torso piece pinned in the wrong way?

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Being the wrong way, the first part cant fold down, allowing the second part to fold back?

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These next 3 images show the upper part of the torso hinge which should be the other way around.

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Head split and weeping glued application


The seller has told me they will forward the photos on to their warehouse for examination? :-?
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Re: Masterpiece MP-12 Lambor/Sideswipe has arrived! In the UK and in my hands!!

Postby Ravage XK » Thu Nov 01, 2012 6:25 am

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Yep, that's back to front. Well done Takara.
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Re: Masterpiece MP-12 Lambor/Sideswipe has arrived in the UK, but there are PROBLEMS!!!

Postby zappatton2 » Thu Nov 01, 2012 9:54 am

I see a couple of screws, could you take it apart and reassemble correctly? I wonder if this is a common defect. I got my shipping confirmation, guess I'll find out next week :/
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Re: Masterpiece MP-12 Lambor/Sideswipe has arrived in the UK, but there are PROBLEMS!!!

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Re: Masterpiece MP-12 Lambor/Sideswipe has arrived in the UK, but there are PROBLEMS!!!

Postby robotmel » Thu Nov 01, 2012 3:42 pm

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zappatton2 wrote:I see a couple of screws, could you take it apart and reassemble correctly? I wonder if this is a common defect. I got my shipping confirmation, guess I'll find out next week :/

:-?
Yep, there are two screws which connect his butt! Unscrewing them should let you access the hinge which can hopefully pop out and turn around?

This is only a third of the problem as the pinned torso would also need turning around! Its that whole central part which is completely the wrong way around!! :sad:
The head aint looking too clever either! :shock:
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Re: Masterpiece MP-12 Lambor/Sideswipe has arrived! In the UK and in my hands!!

Postby Mkall » Thu Nov 01, 2012 4:03 pm

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robotmel wrote::-(
Its getting pretty disapointing to hear about the QC problems of MP-12 Lambor/Sideswipe.

Come on takara, whats all this about? :-(

I have finally got some up-close pictures of my faulty version which I bought via China based Ebay seller 366offer.

Question: Did you get one mint in box? I'm wondering if you got a factory reject, i.e. one that didn't pass QA.
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Re: Masterpiece MP-12 Lambor/Sideswipe has arrived! In the UK and in my hands!!

Postby robotmel » Thu Nov 01, 2012 4:06 pm

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Mkall wrote:
robotmel wrote::-(
Its getting pretty disapointing to hear about the QC problems of MP-12 Lambor/Sideswipe.

Come on takara, whats all this about? :-(

I have finally got some up-close pictures of my faulty version which I bought via China based Ebay seller 366offer.

Question: Did you get one mint in box? I'm wondering if you got a factory reject, i.e. one that didn't pass QA.

Think I probably did... :-( No box, just wrapped! Im sure Takara wouldnt allow this through QC, no way!

I hope the seller comes back to me soon with a resolve. :???:
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Re: Masterpiece MP-12 Lambor/Sideswipe has arrived! In the UK and in my hands!!

Postby Mkall » Thu Nov 01, 2012 6:48 pm

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Mkall wrote:
robotmel wrote::-(
Its getting pretty disapointing to hear about the QC problems of MP-12 Lambor/Sideswipe.

Come on takara, whats all this about? :-(

I have finally got some up-close pictures of my faulty version which I bought via China based Ebay seller 366offer.

Question: Did you get one mint in box? I'm wondering if you got a factory reject, i.e. one that didn't pass QA.

Think I probably did... :-( No box, just wrapped! Im sure Takara wouldnt allow this through QC, no way!

I hope the seller comes back to me soon with a resolve. :???:

I'm sorry to say that I think you've been taken for a ride. If you payed with PayPal it may be better to file a complaint through them.
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Re: Masterpiece MP-12 Lambor/Sideswipe has arrived in the UK, but there are PROBLEMS!!!

Postby robotmel » Fri Nov 02, 2012 2:11 am

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:-?
So I received word back from the Ebay seller who have sent on the photos to their warehouse?
They have offered me a part refund or to return the figure for a full refund.

I really dont like the idea of trying to return Lambor all the way back to China? I was more than worried whilst waiting for him to arrive as the provided tracking number didnt work!
The idea of a partial refund sounds more appealing but that still leaves me with a Transformer which cant transform!
Its that bloody torso pin! I just dont feel confident in knocking it out!! :-?

This pin seems to be just over an inch in length?
Anyone had much experience with successful pin removal/replacing from their Transformers (looking at you Seibs)? :???:
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Re: Masterpiece MP-12 Lambor/Sideswipe has arrived! In the UK and in my hands!!

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Mkall wrote:
robotmel wrote:
Mkall wrote:
robotmel wrote::-(
Its getting pretty disapointing to hear about the QC problems of MP-12 Lambor/Sideswipe.

Come on takara, whats all this about? :-(

I have finally got some up-close pictures of my faulty version which I bought via China based Ebay seller 366offer.

Question: Did you get one mint in box? I'm wondering if you got a factory reject, i.e. one that didn't pass QA.

Think I probably did... :-( No box, just wrapped! Im sure Takara wouldnt allow this through QC, no way!

I hope the seller comes back to me soon with a resolve. :???:

I'm sorry to say that I think you've been taken for a ride. If you payed with PayPal it may be better to file a complaint through them.

Yep. Factory reject. >:oP

I doubt anyone would loose their box and sell their legit one less than 2 weeks after the release date.

Just a failed QC item, which a worker stole to sell. I used to buy them all the time... until local sources stopped importing them. But back in 07/08 it was the best way to get pre-release stuff, and the price is generally so cheap the flaws are overlooked.
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Re: Masterpiece MP-12 Lambor/Sideswipe has arrived in the UK, but there are PROBLEMS!!!

Postby Ravage XK » Fri Nov 02, 2012 2:25 am

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I wonder if there are Brits who could help you out if they have skills in removing these types of pins? Maybe somebody who is into making custom figures.

I read that you can remove the pins by heating them up with a soldering iron and then carefully sliding them out. Not sure if I would like to try it myself though.
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Re: Masterpiece MP-12 Lambor/Sideswipe has arrived in the UK, but there are PROBLEMS!!!

Postby Mykltron » Fri Nov 02, 2012 4:20 am

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Pin removal is generally done with a nail and a large hammer? It's often a pain in the arse? The plastic around the hole will get a bit damaged as the nail always slips to the side a bit?

If you send it to me and cover the return postage cost I can have a go, but in return I'd ask that you stop ending non-question sentences with a question mark? ;)

If someone else who is better at pin removal and doesn't consider it a pain in the arse wants to do it instead of me then they're welcome.
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Re: Masterpiece MP-12 Lambor/Sideswipe has arrived in the UK, but there are PROBLEMS!!!

Postby SKYWARPED_128 » Fri Nov 02, 2012 5:24 am

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Mykltron wrote:Pin removal is generally done with a nail and a large hammer? It's often a pain in the arse? The plastic around the hole will get a bit damaged as the nail always slips to the side a bit?

If you send it to me and cover the return postage cost I can have a go, but in return I'd ask that you stop ending non-question sentences with a question mark? ;)

If someone else who is better at pin removal and doesn't consider it a pain in the arse wants to do it instead of me then they're welcome.


Depending on how small the pin is, you can use a really small screwdriver (like the ones you use to tighten the screws on your glasses) to push the pin out instead of using a hammer and nail. Just push it out a quarter of the way, before using pliers to gently wiggle it out.

I did the same thing with my WFC Soundwave's elbow pins.
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Re: Masterpiece MP-12 Lambor/Sideswipe has arrived in the UK, but there are PROBLEMS!!!

Postby Autobot032 » Fri Nov 02, 2012 6:39 am

Weapon: Switch Blade Tail
I've used a soldering iron before. It's easier and safer to use than you'd think. Warms up the plastic around the pin to make it pliable but not melted. While it's soft, you can push the pin out. Do what you nedd and thr plastic will be cool by that point. Just push the pin back in and you're done.
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