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Razorclaw0000 wrote:

Counterpunch wrote:By the way...Arcee? Way less crappy than I initially expected. She's quite striking to see in person. Recommended, especially since BBTS has them priced crazy low right now.

Thanks for making me spend $42 more dollars. Jerk

That's a hobby of mine.

Testify Delaware and Pennsylvania friends! Testify!

My Alts Skids just arrived a few days ago and despite being plastic in construction, it has a bit of heft to it. Die cast is great but I don't miss it if the Transformer has good and solid construction. If I could afford Broadblast, I would so get it. I love the mold!

Convotron wrote:My Alts Skids just arrived a few days ago and despite being plastic in construction, it has a bit of heft to it. Die cast is great but I don't miss it if the Transformer has good and solid construction. If I could afford Broadblast, I would so get it. I love the mold!

I just got him and he's really worth it if you can find him for under $100. I don't know why people think that mold is so hard to transform though. To me, it's one of the most intuitive of the Alt/BT figures.

Counterpunch wrote:

Convotron wrote:My Alts Skids just arrived a few days ago and despite being plastic in construction, it has a bit of heft to it. Die cast is great but I don't miss it if the Transformer has good and solid construction. If I could afford Broadblast, I would so get it. I love the mold!

I just got him and he's really worth it if you can find him for under $100. I don't know why people think that mold is so hard to transform though. To me, it's one of the most intuitive of the Alt/BT figures.

Got mine at retail, and Broadblast for 60 CDN.

I've been very lucky getting alts/BTs for decent prices.

And yes, they are all awesome.

Also, if anyone has the following and is interested in getting rid of it, please contact me:

-Autotrooper w/Atari
-KP Melissa (don't want Convoy, just the girl. Also, trust me, there's not a joke or innuendo you can make on the matter that I haven't already done twice)
-The sticker sheet to BTA Broadblast

Counterpunch wrote:I just got him and he's really worth it if you can find him for under $100. I don't know why people think that mold is so hard to transform though. To me, it's one of the most intuitive of the Alt/BT figures.

I totally agree. The Alts Skids transformation design is pretty straight forward and the only portion that could pose a degree of confusion is the arms. I bought my Skids loose with no engine/weapon or instructions(I bought it for $5 and I have a complete near mint Alts Skids on the way) and I was able to figure out its transformation in 5 minutes.

I love the boxy look of Skids. The Broadblast colour scheme is so great with the mold. I'll get one someday!

I have just started getting into Binatech/Alternators toys a few weeks ago.I did own two Alternators proior to my new craze, but I sold them rather qucikly to get other TF's. Currently, I have blue Tracks from Alternators and I was wondering if I should stick with Alternators because of the metal wear I keep hearing about on Binatech toys.

In regards to paint apps, is the detailing on Binatech really better than Alternators?

Compared to Alternity, will the toys get metal wear like Binatech also?

I'm asking becasue I got Super Black from TFSource just for the heck of it, and becasue he's black and a convoy. From the vidz I have seen he fits in kinda nice with my neo G1/A/E/C collection

Any one own any Alternity toys? Anything to be aware of with Alternity as apposed to Binatech/Alternators.

The Alternaotrs/Binatech are going to be a separate collection because I have the money to do so because I don't buy movie toys.

I have several Alternators figures and a few Alternity figures.

First of all, I don't think there's terrible issues with paint chipping and wear but that's a reality of owning painted die cast figures. I personally am mainly getting Alternators due to price and the fact that I intend to have regular handling of my figures as I display them and rotate the displayed figures every once in a while. BT figures may not be the best type to handle on a regular basis. That being said, I do plan on getting a couple of BT figures in the future.

I don't think the paint apps are significantly better between Alts and BT. They both have great apps from what I've seen. Hopefully someone who owns both lines will chime in with their observations on this.

I own Alternity Convoys Ultimate Silver and Super Black as well as Megatron Blade Silver. The main thing to look out for is transformation. Some people have reported issues with transforming Convoy's legs and having chipping/scraping problems. I haven't run into that, though, both of my Convoys and Megatron transform flawlessly. So it may be an issue with manufacturing and some figures may have off positioned parts.

I really like the Alternity line because of the great mechanical design. Like Alts/BT, you get a Transformer that has a convincing alt mode with detailed interiors. You also get, in my opinion, really great transformation design. The figures are highly detailed and I think are worth every penny.

bvzxa wrote:I have just started getting into Binatech/Alternators toys a few weeks ago.I did own two Alternators proior to my new craze, but I sold them rather qucikly to get other TF's. Currently, I have blue Tracks from Alternators and I was wondering if I should stick with Alternators because of the metal wear I keep hearing about on Binatech toys.

In regards to paint apps, is the detailing on Binatech really better than Alternators?

Compared to Alternity, will the toys get metal wear like Binatech also?

I'm asking becasue I got Super Black from TFSource just for the heck of it, and becasue he's black and a convoy. From the vidz I have seen he fits in kinda nice with my neo G1/A/E/C collection

Any one own any Alternity toys? Anything to be aware of with Alternity as apposed to Binatech/Alternators.

The Alternaotrs/Binatech are going to be a separate collection because I have the money to do so because I don't buy movie toys.

There isn't a real big difference with most BTs vs Alts in regards to detailing. I do think BT Convoy looks much better detailed, though, and many seem to say Smokescreen is also looks superior as a BT. Sounds like most of the others you're not going to notice much of a difference by just looking at them.

As for Alternity, a big difference between BTs and the Alternity I've found (other than size) is the BT's die-cast was primarily the outside parts with plastic inside. Alternity are more so the other way around. Most of their exterior is plastic so it seems the paint chipping would maybe be less likely, but probably less noticeable either way.

Stick with Alt Tracks.

Not only is the kibble/weigh issue kind of resolved via plastic, but the chance of paint chipping on Tracks is higher than most others.

Now that my Alternators collection has grown by several figures, I am confident in saying the Alternators figures seem to generally have nice heft to them.

I really like the feeling of mass in my Alternity figures but now that I have a bit more experience with Alternators, I think that when I eventually get a BT figure or two, it'll be fun but it won't be like all of a sudden I'm blown away by the extra weight that die cast imbues.

Counterpunch wrote:

Convotron wrote:My Alts Skids just arrived a few days ago and despite being plastic in construction, it has a bit of heft to it. Die cast is great but I don't miss it if the Transformer has good and solid construction. If I could afford Broadblast, I would so get it. I love the mold!

I just got him and he's really worth it if you can find him for under $100. I don't know why people think that mold is so hard to transform though. To me, it's one of the most intuitive of the Alt/BT figures.

I can never figure out how to fold up his arms, but otherwise he's got a decent transformation.

I can't explain it in words but Skids arms are a bit of a puzzle at first. Fortunately, there isn't one set way you absolutely have to fold his arms as I've done it two slightly different ways and they both seem to fit properly under the hood.

Sorry to double post but here's a question for Alternators and Binaltech Optimus Prime/Convoy owners:

Did your figure have loose joints fresh out of the package?

I ask this because I received my Alternators OP yesterday and the knee joints, hand/wrist joints, and joints for the seats were all loose. Alts OP was MISB. I just used super glue to tighten up the joints and now it's spiffy.

I'm particularly curious about this for BT Convoy. Alts OP is hefty with its plastic construction. I can only imagine how much of an upper body weight issue there may be fore BT Convoy if it has inherently loose knee joints.

Convotron wrote:Sorry to double post but here's a question for Alternators and Binaltech Optimus Prime/Convoy owners:

Did your figure have loose joints fresh out of the package?

I ask this because I received my Alternators OP yesterday and the knee joints, hand/wrist joints, and joints for the seats were all loose. Alts OP was MISB. I just used super glue to tighten up the joints and now it's spiffy.

I'm particularly curious about this for BT Convoy. Alts OP is hefty with its plastic construction. I can only imagine how much of an upper body weight issue there may be fore BT Convoy if it has inherently loose knee joints.

My Nemesis Prime is wobbly and floppy.

My BT Convoy came with tight joints, I don't recall any problems in bot mode. It has been a while so I don't remember if my Alt OP had loose joints out of the box, but it sure is loose now, knee joints for sure.

My Alt Nemisis Prime is tight, maybe too much. I don't like to transform figures that require too much force. Like wrestling with ultimate bumblebee.

Thanks for the info, guys!

Hmm, the only super tight parts on my Alts OP are the leg extension parts. The first time I transformed the figure, I thought I was going to go Movie Jazz on OP.

"You want a piece of me?"

"No! I want two!"

The first Alt Prime I bought loose and it actually was that way literally...but I think it probably got well played with by the previous owner. Next I got a BT Convoy and it was pretty tight other than the head, which spins somewhat freely...however, the front bumper isn't the most solid thing in the world in alt mode. It does stay, but the connection feels a bit weak due to the die-cast and it doesn’t seem to peg together as solidly as plastic would…though it may just be the way the mold is as my loose one wasn’t much better. I have both another MISB Alt Prime and Nemesis Prime, but I've yet to open them so I obviously can't speak to them. Don't have much reason to open the Alt Prime now...I actually got it to replace the used one, but then the BT version came along. I'd sell or trade the Alt, but they somehow became over-saturated on the secondhand market about a year ago (a crap-ton of MISB ones became available at all the online shops) so it just doesn’t fetch a whole heckuva lot now…would probably be lucky to pocket $20 after shipping and whatnot, and since I paid about $30 originally… And Nemesis Prime I just can't decide? It still is a pretty rare figure so I don't know if I should keep it MISB or just open him and let him hang out with the others...decisions, decision.

Alts NP is very cool in alt mode. The black body with red windows is great. Red and black is a classic colour combo.

Even as a non-MISB collector, I'd be tempted to leave NP MISB and display it that way. The Alts packaging is pretty darn good compared to Hasbro's usual packaging style. I like the way the clear packaging allows one to showcase the figure(in alt mode at least). I also really like the HA packaging for that reason.

I'm thinking of getting the TFX-ABT-01 at some point to go with Alts OP. I really like the figure. It is fairly bulky in bot mode, the torso doesn't secure, which I'm very disappointed in. The legs, yeah, they're basically the truck bed split in two but I thought they'd be worse from some accounts. I really like the alt mode. The pickup truck suits the character.

I have several Alts figures now and I haven't been disappointed by any of them as overall Transformers. They all have many features I enjoy. I love this line.

Convotron wrote:I have several Alts figures now and I haven't been disappointed by any of them as overall Transformers. They all have many features I enjoy. I love this line.

Agree...I think I'd have to say it's my favorite. The MP line probably edges it out, but taking into account the price (especially at retail) and having 3x the molds, Alternators FTW!

Alternators is one of my favorite lines and I was really sad to see it go. The perfect complement to the MP line, I just wish it had more Decepticons. How did we only get one Stunticon and two Ravages? I'm just waiting for Alternity Bumblebee and Cliffjumper to put on display with the Alts & MPs!

I definitely agree that there's a Decepticon deficit in the Alternators/Binaltech line, which is such a shame! Hopefully Alternity will keep things more even.

I think that while it's too bad Alts/BT isn't likely to see continuation, Alternity is its successor according to the fiction of the line. Also, the improvements in figure design and transformation design are great. I see quite a few transformation design similarities in Alternity Convoy and Megatron that I discovered in Alternators. I went about things backwards and bought an Alternity figure before an Alternators figure, hehe.

I think things can only get better in future figure design. Even though Alternity Bumble isn't wowing a lot of people(I may be one of the few who have grown to love the design), I'm looking forward to seeing how the design plays out in my hands. At a glance, the figure looks like it will take a significant change of design from Convoy and Megatron. Both Megatron and Convoy use a body type based upon using the front engine compartment as the torso and the rear compartment for the legs whereas Bumble is going more traditional and using the front for its feet, the passenger compartment for the torso, and the rear for the head/shoulders.

I really enjoy the standard robot and vehicle design in the majority of the Transformers lines but MP, Alternators/Binaltech, and Alternity are a nice change of aesthetic. For me, it's a good middle ground between the iconic features of G1 characters and the mechanical elements of the live action movie designs. It also reminds me of G1 toys in that the early G1 designs used alt modes based on real Earth vehicles. The Alts/BT/Alternity aesthetic is like contemporary G1 to me in that respect.

Finally got mine today...pics:





I love the scale. Don't like the fact that the red version is going up in price right now, but it fits in with my "Worlds of Convoy" story I made up for my A/E/C/CL/U toys I have. I like these toys so much I want more. I hope they do right by this line and get more decepticons.

The engineering is what got me. You got to do some things here and there, but the toy stands out so much that I kinda made him a "bad ass" in my story. He needs weapons though, so I maight inverst in that OP Gun set that fits the Classics and Alternity lines.

All in all, I'm impressed. Thanks guys, you sold me on this line.

Bvzxa Black Convoy doesn't need anymore guns, The ones on his arms shoot through time afterall

I agree with you with needing more Alternity figures. I have all 5 and am still holding out hope that Bumblebee and Cliffjumper aren't a total lost cause.

Personally I like the Fairlady mold slightly more than the GT-R. But only slightly.

And another joins the Convoy Corps!

Isn't Alternity Convoy Super Black awesome?

Yes, the engineering...even someone who is lukewarm to Alternity has to be able to recognize the level of engineering that goes into these figures.

The TFC-005 set is cool and I'd like to get it some time down the road. I only wish there was an option for red LEDs so it would go better with the various black repaints of OP.

I hope the Alternity line fares better than Alternators/Binaltech but seeing the high price, it's unlikely unless a plastic equivalent to the Alternators is produced for a lower cost.