Tramp wrote:Prime went for accuracy in both modes, not just one. Bulking up the legs would make him look absolutely ridiculous in alt mode. the same with having a smaller arm cannon. This prototype is still very accurate in robot mode, even with the thin legs. Compromises have to be made.
fromwednesday747 wrote:All i'm saying is that if compromises have to be made, i'd much rather they be made to the alt mode, not the bot mode.
Tramp wrote:I’m just the opposite. The alternate mode is more imortant since that is the disguise. The robot mode must convincingly look like it can transform into the apparopriate alt mode. It has to make those compromises. Yes, for a toy, the alt mode does need to make some sacrifices, but they should be kept to a minimum—mirrors and side windows missing to accombidate the transformation mechanisms for example.
For Megatron, the thin profile of his legs, and the huge arm cannon are compromises for a more accurate gun mode, which is as it should be.
Rest assured, the quality and stability will be there.
tentagil wrote:Tramp wrote:I’m just the opposite. The alternate mode is more imortant since that is the disguise. The robot mode must convincingly look like it can transform into the apparopriate alt mode. It has to make those compromises. Yes, for a toy, the alt mode does need to make some sacrifices, but they should be kept to a minimum—mirrors and side windows missing to accombidate the transformation mechanisms for example.
For Megatron, the thin profile of his legs, and the huge arm cannon are compromises for a more accurate gun mode, which is as it should be.
Rest assured, the quality and stability will be there.
Thing is he's already inaccurate jsut based on scale. If hte bot mode is 12 inches tall then the gun mode will most likley be almost twice the size of the original. Which would put it at about 125 percent the size of the real gun. And I jsut don't see the stability unless those legs get some bulk. He's gonna end up like Starscream unable to stand on his own unless he's in the exact right pose. Otherwise he'll be stuff on a display stand. Regardless of if he is an adult collectable, i still want to be able to "play" with and pose my figure. And the one in that picture doesn't look capable.
fromwednesday747 wrote:Look at that bot mod though! Damn, if you want a realistic looking walther, you can certainly obtain one. I realize that i don't speak for everyone, but i think most people would like a much better looking Megatron than that. Like i said before, that toy really looks not much better to me than the original. Screw the handle looking too big or the scope being too small, it would improve whats more important to most transfans. I doubt many people are going to be like "damn, what a convincing walther p-38 that toy is, i think i'll drop $100 on it". i think where we really differ is that paying that much for a "decent" robot isn't my idea of money well spent. I will, however, pay that much for the what the "Masterpiece" title would imply is the definitive version of a character i grew up with. That prototype isn't it.
Tramp wrote:I disagree 100%. That is perhaps one of the best Megatron models, in robot mode, I have seen to date. The very fact that they were able to make a very accurate looking, though scaled up, Walther P-38, and create a robot mode that close to the cartoon character, along with making it fully articulated is laudable. I find absolutely no fault in that model what so ever. You are not going to get a 100% cartoon accurate robot mode, and still have it transform, without the alt mode looking totally ridiculous, and that wouldn’t be an improvement. This is the difinitive G1 Megatron.
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