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personally i like the changes the alt mode with the update looks more realistic than the first. this is the one thing that always bothers me about OP.

I still find the addition of the conformal fuel tanks to be odd. My understanding is those aren't seen much outside of the two seat F-15E. That waist kibble really should be mounted on the sides of the legs, on a sliding joint.

The waist kibble just looks bad. And, I don't mean bad as in "it's not G1" I mean bad as in "looks goofy, in any context."

Why the hell do the knees bend backwards?

*waits for Classics*

Greyryder wrote:..Why the hell do the knees bend backwards?

The kness bend back for extra crotch-thrust.

.billy

BillyBadAss wrote:The kness bend back for extra crotch-thrust.

.billy

Know any good plastic surgeons??? lol

billy , billy , billy... do we really need to bring back all the crotch trusting goodness that has happened in the past?? * lets go of the sarcasm button*

Hm... This might just go to replace an idea I've had for some time... Of course some stuff needs to be bashed as it is, but I'm going for something more... "All out." You'll see when I start it...

(Here's a hint: It's what I was wanting a Cyb Supreme Screamer for.)

BillyBadAss wrote:

Greyryder wrote:..Why the hell do the knees bend backwards?

The kness bend back for extra crotch-thrust.

.billy

lol.. this just proved the new SS is imba compared to the old one.
Ehr wait..

No seriously is has it goods, look at the altmode.. the wheels pop in far better now.. it looked cheap before.
The skirt.. well.. perhaps like Ra88 is removable.. well at least with a dremel and some inventive connectors.
The feet.. are still tiny.. but imo they fit SS in a way..

And where did you notice the waist articulation ? ( or did you meant that crotch-thrust)

some of the pictures look like he only has 2 fingers on each hand, but a set of well articulated fingers lol

You know, given the placement of the Tail assembly/hip guards in robot mode, you could simply rotate them fully around up behind the wings. that would eliminate your whole ?skirt? issue.

Tramp wrote:You know, given the placement of the Tail assembly/hip guards in robot mode, you could simply rotate them fully around up behind the wings. that would eliminate your whole ?skirt? issue.

....You just made me realize that might be EXACTLY what's going to happen. The gap between the back and wings is a perfect size for the skirts, and it might not have been photographed that way because of the weak resin joints.

Here's what I meant:

Ya but that'll look even more odd cause the connector is on the hips. That and it'd ruin any attempts at waist articulation.

Lord_Loqi wrote:Ya but that'll look even more odd cause the connector is on the hips. That and it'd ruin any attempts at waist articulation.

It wouldn?t look odd at all, and, given that the canopy stops below waist level, I don?t thing he has any waist articualtion anyway.

Old one > New one.

But it looks like they cleaned up the underside of the plane mode and I like that they got rid of the connectors between the cannons and the arms.

Hopefully it won't be too hard to bash the legs back to the old version.

I'm actually liking the look of this

I may even buy one

Considering that non of those shots show him turned at the waist at all I have the bad feeling that there is no waist articulation. Not a big fan of the new legs either. Jsut prefer the more classic look to the legs, that and I think big legs always look better on TFs. Otherwise he looks kinda top heavy with those big arms and little chicken legs.

Please let this be fake...Please let this be fake...Please let this be fake...

Maybe if they got rid of the red, it'd look better. the paint scheme seems alternatorish.

Now that I think about it, they had planned an alternator jet line and some tanks. they were supposed to be a smaller scale than the alts but still bigger. i wonder if that's where the starscream came from.

Well, appearantly that's MP Starscream, but don't worry! There are two versions, the lowvis shown and a toon-accurate one. There's just one, small catch...

...YOU HAVE TO BECOME A MEMBER OF THEIR CLUB IN ORDER TO GET THE TOON-ACCURATE ONE WITH CROWN FOR THE 'MEASLY' PRICE OF 116 DOLLARS.

Quote:
Dragonx76Here's the kicker, there was a STARS Membership card on display. When sign up is available, when you sign up as a STARS member you will be able to purchase items at a membership price. Yes there is a membership fee & the first 2 items will be Roller for MP Convoy membership price at 3,000 Yen (about $27 USD) & a animated cartoon color version of MP Starscream with Crown at a membership price of 12,800 Yen (about $116 USD)...

I'll post more info as it comes in...

SCREW THEM! I'll wait for the Hasbro version, and see if that comes in the PROPER colors!

That photo just screams that it is a digital repaint to me.

Not to mention it also looks like the classics mold.

Hobbyist Prime wrote:That photo just screams that it is a digital repaint to me.

Not to mention it also looks like the classics mold.

That?s what it looks like to me too. And a rather poor job at that.

Yeah theres no way thats an official photo. official photos are at least in focus. It looks like something somebody colorized in Paint

Theres a pretty good chance that pic is ligit, saddly, It looks like a Mag scan (Ive never seen that perticular pose yet). BUT that doesnt mean the US market will see the same color scheme, Hasbro isnt bound by takaras color choices. The US market probably will get all the MP Starscream extras, if he does come will a Crown, since MP Prime didnt sell AS WELL as they'd (Hasbro) hoped (to my knowlegde). They might just try to succed once, with one figure. BUT we very well might not see a 100% Toon acurate Starscream, since he's MP He has to look at least 80% accurate (impo) for each mold, meaning as much as his bot mode has to be Screamer, His Jet mode must also "Scream" real Jet. Grant it that doesnt mean there cant be sacrifices from each, the Jets a shell so all bot can be Starscream underneith, besides Hue can vary from jet to jet, so He can be far lighter in color to the Japanese pics. Thats all I gotta say and all IMPO.

New prototype images:



So...Beautiful... Just look at all the extra's. Airbrakes, rudders, openable engines, detailed interior...And he even comes with missiles! I didn't see that one before!

well honestly i think it would be a decent change compared to the old g1 mok ups, besides i think it pays homage to what figeroua had in mind when he concepted all the tf's he drew them all to wear they would be able to transform as a toy so this is something very highly anticipated, i want to get 2 more and make the trio of seekers, then it would be good to go. so if it isn't scale i am down with it just as long as i can take it apart and get the paint job down i am good to go. then maybe if i am good enough i can actually start my MP megs project.