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Myth Wars WIP/sketch

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Postby jimsloth » Tue Nov 01, 2005 6:09 am

sweet.
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Postby Lord_Loqi » Tue Nov 01, 2005 8:50 am

BillyBadAss wrote:Been working on Snarl's robot mode - here's an early sketch:


Curious, Does the right arm fold up into the head. It could fold together like the arms on energon sharkticon and form the lower neck. Then you can use the Scaleing on the throught to form a bracer on the for arm for an armor look.
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Postby BillyBadAss » Tue Nov 01, 2005 4:02 pm

Lord_Loqi wrote:
BillyBadAss wrote:Been working on Snarl's robot mode - here's an early sketch:


Curious, Does the right arm fold up into the head. It could fold together like the arms on energon sharkticon and form the lower neck. Then you can use the Scaleing on the throught to form a bracer on the for arm for an armor look.


The right arm follows the spine in beast mode - its hidden under the "wings"..
If you look back on Page 3 - you can see the "wings" I'm talking about.

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Postby Blastoderm » Tue Nov 01, 2005 5:10 pm

Looking good and solid so far BBA.

Hmmm boxart style poses, hmmm I shall consider that idea probably for Depth Charge.;)
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Postby TFmaster » Tue Nov 01, 2005 6:09 pm

BillyBadAss wrote:
Lord_Loqi wrote:
BillyBadAss wrote:Been working on Snarl's robot mode - here's an early sketch:


Curious, Does the right arm fold up into the head. It could fold together like the arms on energon sharkticon and form the lower neck. Then you can use the Scaleing on the throught to form a bracer on the for arm for an armor look.


The right arm follows the spine in beast mode - its hidden under the "wings"..
If you look back on Page 3 - you can see the "wings" I'm talking about.

.billy


Actually, I personally asked Billy here to base the transformation off of the RID Sideburn mold since there were so many repaints produced of it it's very easy and cheep to come by the figure.

It's so anyone that was sculpting skills and wants to kitbash him they can. Easy referance material, decent size, loads of poseability so it would be fun to make for the creator.

I would eventually love to see someone, if not myself, takle this bad boy and bring him to life and this was just to bring it closer to reality.

Thus why the beast head is on the shoulder.(Car front bumper)
Thus why the arm folds up and becomes part of the chest.(It's where one wheel was before in alt mode.
Thus why the arm folds into the back and becomes the spine of the creature.

Easy material to work with.

Billy really does deserve props for making the transformation work so well.

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Postby TGping » Wed Nov 02, 2005 3:59 am

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Billy really does deserve props for making the transformation work so well.

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yes he does :D
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Postby BillyBadAss » Wed Nov 02, 2005 4:05 am

meh..

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Postby Ra88 » Wed Nov 02, 2005 4:10 am

Oh yeah, about Grimlock...Isn't possible to make the transformation much easier if you base it on that of Beast Machines Deluxe Primal? Since he's a humanoid and all...Just a suggestion, TFM and BBA. :wink:
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Postby BillyBadAss » Wed Nov 02, 2005 4:13 am

Ra88 wrote:Oh yeah, about Grimlock...Isn't possible to make the transformation much easier if you base it on that of Beast Machines Deluxe Primal? Since he's a humanoid and all...Just a suggestion, TFM and BBA. :wink:


Hah - I was thinking about it today.. but not for Grimlock - I was considering it for Sludge.

I dunno - TFM?

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Postby TGping » Wed Nov 02, 2005 5:14 am

anybody notice teh name on this thread? that's right! it's for WIP's and sketches! :D so if you have a finished piece it can go in the finished thread. more on that in the finished thread...
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Postby Ra88 » Thu Nov 03, 2005 6:13 am

Well, Nessie now has an official name: Cariboria, From Cadborosaurus (the "official" name for the suspected seaserpents that aren't Plesiosaurs(?)). Her nickname is still Nessie, though. :wink: Doubting if I should make her a Predacon or Maximal, but for now I'm thinking of her to be either an ally or the wife of Desraco (hey, Deathsaurus had 2 wives in Victory). I'll try to get the scan up tonight.

And another new character: Merio Trios, the M3 version of the Alpha Trion-bots and keeper of the Transformers bible seen in Beast Wars (forgot it's name). His beastmode? Merlin and his trusty owl. :twisted:
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Postby Destructor. » Thu Nov 03, 2005 8:00 am

Hiya, men, I was putting a couple of ideas in the other topic (That one with the characters list), and here's a very quick concept sketch of one of those characters, this time is Megazarak, the giant serpent Jormungand.
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Postby Ra88 » Thu Nov 03, 2005 2:17 pm

Finished Cariboria (Nessie) and Merlin, and went ahead to post a WIP of Rampage.

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Merlin doesn't transform, but uses his owl as a sort of Breastmaster, think Duocon/Casetticon here. :wink:

As for Rampage's transformation: I want to make him look like a true beast, a monster in every sense of the word. . Transformation will be the same as TM Rampage, but the shoulderplates will stay behind the lobster claws, who'll become an extra set of arms. His beastmode neck will slide into the chest, and the jaws will open up before sliding the head out, going with that whole 'toothy collar' thing again, like with Desraco and Terrorpyre. His tail will split up to reveal the legs. Simple, but he'll have a nice "big chest and arms, even bigger claws and legs" look.
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Postby Blastoderm » Thu Nov 03, 2005 8:34 pm

Veryniceconcepts so far guys...looking forward to desrtructor's Lord zarak and ra's Rampage!
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Postby Mest4life135 » Thu Nov 03, 2005 9:01 pm

*cheers* lets see rampages robot mode!!!!
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Postby ShinMusashi44 » Sat Nov 05, 2005 12:11 am

First off i want to say that im finally back(windows xp stopped working for 2 weeks). And that im happy with the way things are going. Except me and TGping need to draw more :D But i was thinking a way for everyone to have their characters and storie's told through this. After reading TFmasters story, i liked the idea of different teams in different times. So that way everyone can have their own story going without messing up anyone's elses story. I've seen alot of chinese characters so we can have a chinese one going and TFmaster and BillyBadAss can have one for the dinobots and so on. I'll list the different ones at the bottom. And i'll ask Metalsamamon to change the list. So if everyone likes that idea for now on say which "series" you character is from. And for anyone that has already made a character post here and say which one they are part of. Or pm me or metalsamamon the info. You can also add to the timelines as well. Just as long as it makes sense. So no manticore running around in japan or anything. I also shall be updating with some new stuff this weekend.

Here are the series timelines so far:

The main one that im working on. Which is mostly greek.

Egyptian

Chinese

The Dark Ages

Japanese
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Postby ShinMusashi44 » Sat Nov 05, 2005 12:33 am

I also forgot to say that i wanted each series to have a sub-title. Like Myth Wars:The sands of time (which would be like the egyptian one) or Myth Wars:The dark Ages(which could be in medevil times) Those are just some example's. Everyone post your idea's.
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Postby TFmaster » Sat Nov 05, 2005 1:06 am

shinmusashi44 wrote:I also forgot to say that i wanted each series to have a sub-title. Like Myth Wars:The sands of time (which would be like the egyptian one) or Myth Wars:The dark Ages(which could be in medevil times) Those are just some example's. Everyone post your idea's.


Well, we reallt can't make stories without certain specifics.

First. How does it happen?

Second is who is ganna be in it? How limited will the cast be? Is it just ganna be BW Guys?

When is it ganna take place to begin and end with?

Why is this all Happening? What is the main outcome?

Who is ganna handle what portions of this story?...we need a story collaberation thread to keep track of what happens and when and how.

That's the only thing I see keeping this thing from really taking off. There is no structure or a real plan talked about/announced.

See I tried to handle all of the main details of who and why and how everything starts so that it leave us all open to do our own timeline stories with a large enouph cast to always have something fresh being done to keep it interesting and new.

I have no problem with other doing their own little stories but we need artifacts and plans and little plots to build the foundation off of.

My plans were the beginning and end major plots. I have plans to reveil at least one of the 13 and introducing the decepticon matrix and it's true purpose and a disasterouse outcome. I have items to protect or find that act with that outcome and plot.

There is alot of planning to solidify and say who is doing what when it comes to stories and how are they all ganna intertwine.

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Postby ShinMusashi44 » Sat Nov 05, 2005 2:22 am

Well I want other people to write the other stories. I don't know how writes here so i really can't ask anyone to help in that area. I want alot of this to be a thing everyone helps out on. But i can't use everyones idea's. There's just to many out there. Well i want some of us to get together and come up with ideas with a quick idea of what each story can be. Then we can post a thread with what each story guideline will be. So then everyone can work off of that. So anyone who wants to write send me a PM. After everyone says where there characters fall into what timeline we can start saying who's who and such. Also anyone here want to do bios for any of the characters? And to answer some your question TFmaster:

First. How does it happen? ANSWER- same as question 4. answer there.

Second who is ganna be in it? How limited will the cast be? Is it just ganna be BW Guys? ANSWER-The cast of the main plot is ever changing so i can't really say on that. But the other stories can be any number. I would like the series to be just beast wars. Im pretty sure G1 characters were long dead by the time of Beast Wars.

When is it ganna take place to begin and end with? ANSWER-It will be after Beast Wars. But before Beast Machines. Since we are talking about time travel anything can happen. so while the beast wars characters are heading back home a million things can happen in time.

Why is this all Happening? What is the main outcome? ANSWER-I don't want to give to much away of the main plot. But the point of them going to earth is the Maximal high consul sends them on a rescue mission for primal and crew. But theres really another reason they went to earth. There will be corruption within the high consul. I don't want to give away the main plot of what goes on with earth and such. I can pm you if you want to know the story. But if i set here and give away everything about the story then there woundn't be a point in making a comic :D

Who is ganna handle what portions of this story?...we need a story collaberation thread to keep track of what happens and when and how. ANSWER- Yes we do. But i want to wait till everyone has said what parts they want to work on. I don't want a million threads about a million differnt stories. So let's wait till everyone says what they want to work on first.


The main thing i want, is for this to be Beast Wars.
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Postby Ra88 » Sat Nov 05, 2005 4:33 am

Sure, I'm in with the writing. I have a couple of interesting ideas for at least Myth Wars: The Dark Ages. :twisted:

Well, as for my characters (also included a couple of title suggestions):

Greek (Wisdom's Rise and Fall): Rampage

Egyptian (Desert Seas and Swords of Wind): Blackarachnia

Chinese (The Serpent Empire): None as of yet

Japanese (Rising of the Crimson Sun): None as of yet

The Dark Ages/Europe (The Era that Time Stood Still/The Reign of Evil): Desraco, Meri Trios, Cariboria, Terrorpyre
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Postby Destructor. » Sat Nov 05, 2005 12:24 pm

Hiya again, friends, I put a couple of quick lines in the middle of a class this morning, and I could add more details (though this model still can't be built because I just jumped from beast to robot mode without considering a proper and possible transformation pattern xD).

Well, folks, here it is, this is an idea of how the menacing snake lord, Megazarak does look!

Now, it's obvious that this character is inspired by Universe's Megazarak, so his color pattern shold be the same, his alternate mode is the Jormungand serpent, a gigantic python that's black with red stripes across its body.

If some fixes can be made in order to make this design more possible, I'll do'em, it's just that I put the concept I had in my head in the paper ^_^
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Postby ShinMusashi44 » Sat Nov 05, 2005 1:26 pm

I like that. The only thing i woould change is the arms. make the arms come out of the serpent neck. An example would be how the arms are on energon cliffjumper. But besides that it looks really cool.
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Postby The Librarian » Sun Nov 06, 2005 11:19 am

Interesting design...I like it!

Well, I've been sketching again, this time to swell the 'con ranks:

A cunning, pyromaniac trickster with a Firebird alternate form. Goes by the name of Lockeye (with every pun intended):

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Being based on Nordic/Russian myths, I'd guess that he falls under Fenrir's command. And there's every cahnce he started out as a mischievous Autobot/Maximal...

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Postby RavageX-9 » Sun Nov 06, 2005 11:41 am

shinmusashi44 wrote:I like that. The only thing i woould change is the arms. make the arms come out of the serpent neck. An example would be how the arms are on energon cliffjumper. But besides that it looks really cool.

I admit, they look a little strange. reminds me of that He-Man/MotU Skeletor from the new line. not a fan of it on that toy either.
I don't think it looks too bad here, but he could do with something a little better. I was going to suggest only having robot fore-arms come out of the snake neck, but maybe if you just had them retract at the shoulders so that his elbows would be where the snake head joins the neck. then he would still be able to extend his arms to attack.

personally, I always loved the lucky draw color scheme of that mold, in the black and dull olive and neon green and yellow and I think dark dark blue.
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Postby TGping » Sun Nov 06, 2005 10:17 pm

I agree with X-9 on the megazrak pic, the arms don't seem like they are practical. it doesn't make sense to have two ungainly appendages. one is more understandable, cuz its more of a weapon thing, while if he had two he wouldn't be able to pick up small things. unless he has alternate arms and these are like "attack mode" arms.
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