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New Transformation Styles Coming to the Transformers Earthspark Toyline Including Magic Conversion

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New Transformation Styles Coming to the Transformers Earthspark Toyline Including Magic Conversion

Postby william-james88 » Mon Mar 28, 2022 8:20 am

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Hasbro held a retailer and investor event to show what was coming up in the next 2 years and highlighted the upcoming Transformers: Earthspark toyline. Jenny Whitlock, VP of Global Franchises at Hasbro, said that along with "classic conversion", there would be two different styles of transformation for the toys: Surprise Conversion and Magic Conversion. The goal seems to be similar to what Hasbro has been building up since the intro of one step transformers which is for kids to recreate the speed of transformation they see onscreen. These conversions also seem to want to go one step further and represent the style of transformation, not just the speed. While it should shock no one, this is also a clear indication to older fans that this toyline for this show is not aimed at them, but for kids instead.

“Transformers: Earthspark presents many firsts for Transformers that we’re bringing to life for kids. Leaning into insights, we’ve identified core pillars of play that allow us to take conversion to another level and connect with kids to deliver on the magic they want [to be] brought to life in toys. Surprise Conversion, Classic Conversion, and Magic Conversion will create a true show-to-shelf moment for the line and an innovative new way to convert Earthspark’s greatest heroes.”
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Postby Overcracker » Mon Mar 28, 2022 9:09 am

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Animated tried to do that... but probably this will be a more flashy and more complete transformation in one step or 2.

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Postby TulioDude » Mon Mar 28, 2022 9:35 am

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Sounds cool.
Another example for this "auto-transformation" is Armada Optimus Prime trailer,it did seen like magic see it transform on it's own.

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Re: New Transformation Styles Coming to the Transformers Earthspark Toyline Including Magic Conversion

Postby Jelze Bunnycat » Mon Mar 28, 2022 11:02 am

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TulioDude wrote:Sounds cool.
Another example for this "auto-transformation" is Armada Optimus Prime trailer,it did seen like magic see it transform on it's own.


The G1 Jumpstarters were magic in a sense as well, all you did was pull back, let go, they raced on their own and then *BAM* transformed (and faceplanted) without you touching them.
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Re: New Transformation Styles Coming to the Transformers Earthspark Toyline Including Magic Conversion

Postby ZeldaTheSwordsman » Mon Mar 28, 2022 11:41 am

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Postby Sabrblade » Mon Mar 28, 2022 12:55 pm

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Re: New Transformation Styles Coming to the Transformers Earthspark Toyline Including Magic Conversion

Postby bluecatcinema » Mon Mar 28, 2022 1:05 pm

"Surprise Conversion", "Magic Conversion"... I must admit, I'm intrigued about what these two are all about.
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Re: New Transformation Styles Coming to the Transformers Earthspark Toyline Including Magic Conversion

Postby ZeldaTheSwordsman » Mon Mar 28, 2022 1:28 pm

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Sabrblade wrote:The Beast Wars and Machine Wars flip-changers had instant-transformations and remain fun figures to this day.
Indeed. Not every instachanger is brick like the Battlechargers, or the later-Bayverse and Bumblebee one-steps. Override for example (granted, she's not a full instachanger) is quite nicely articulated.
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Re: New Transformation Styles Coming to the Transformers Earthspark Toyline Including Magic Conversion

Postby william-james88 » Mon Mar 28, 2022 1:45 pm

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ZeldaTheSwordsman wrote:
Sabrblade wrote:The Beast Wars and Machine Wars flip-changers had instant-transformations and remain fun figures to this day.
Indeed. Not every instachanger is brick like the Battlechargers, or the later-Bayverse and Bumblebee one-steps. Override for example (granted, she's not a full instachanger) is quite nicely articulated.


Animated Bumblebee is a great example too. One step but full articulation.
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Postby Jelze Bunnycat » Mon Mar 28, 2022 1:56 pm

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william-james88 wrote:
ZeldaTheSwordsman wrote:
Sabrblade wrote:The Beast Wars and Machine Wars flip-changers had instant-transformations and remain fun figures to this day.
Indeed. Not every instachanger is brick like the Battlechargers, or the later-Bayverse and Bumblebee one-steps. Override for example (granted, she's not a full instachanger) is quite nicely articulated.


Animated Bumblebee is a great example too. One step but full articulation.


I actually had to look up the name of the gimmick he had: Activators, very much like the Flipchangers discussed before.
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Re: New Transformation Styles Coming to the Transformers Earthspark Toyline Including Magic Conversion

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Re: New Transformation Styles Coming to the Transformers Earthspark Toyline Including Magic Conversion

Postby griftimus prime » Mon Mar 28, 2022 6:09 pm

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you know its funny how some of the best beast wars toys were one step flip a switch and it transforms from good looking animal to good looking figure. and i would consider those for everyone.

not sure why they do not make transformers like this anymore.
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Postby Sabrblade » Mon Mar 28, 2022 6:19 pm

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griftimus prime wrote:you know its funny how some of the best beast wars toys were one step flip a switch and it transforms from good looking animal to good looking figure. and i would consider those for everyone.

not sure why they do not make transformers like this anymore.
Different design teams 26 years apart.
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Postby Emerje » Mon Mar 28, 2022 6:46 pm

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griftimus prime wrote:you know its funny how some of the best beast wars toys were one step flip a switch and it transforms from good looking animal to good looking figure. and i would consider those for everyone.

not sure why they do not make transformers like this anymore.
Different design teams 26 years apart.

Same design team that just rebuilt Rattrap for the BW vintage line. They're certainly familiar with the process now so hopefully they've gotten a little inspiration for the future.

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Re: New Transformation Styles Coming to the Transformers Earthspark Toyline Including Magic Conversion

Postby ZeldaTheSwordsman » Mon Mar 28, 2022 6:49 pm

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Sabrblade wrote:
griftimus prime wrote:you know its funny how some of the best beast wars toys were one step flip a switch and it transforms from good looking animal to good looking figure. and i would consider those for everyone.

not sure why they do not make transformers like this anymore.
Different design teams 26 years apart.
I'd say it was more that the auto-changers of old were "main" toys, whereas the movie line 1-steps were mostly budget toys akin to Cyber Battalion.
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Re: New Transformation Styles Coming to the Transformers Earthspark Toyline Including Magic Conversion

Postby MaximalNui » Tue Mar 29, 2022 3:30 pm

Jelze Bunnycat wrote:
william-james88 wrote:
ZeldaTheSwordsman wrote:
Sabrblade wrote:The Beast Wars and Machine Wars flip-changers had instant-transformations and remain fun figures to this day.
Indeed. Not every instachanger is brick like the Battlechargers, or the later-Bayverse and Bumblebee one-steps. Override for example (granted, she's not a full instachanger) is quite nicely articulated.


Animated Bumblebee is a great example too. One step but full articulation.


I actually had to look up the name of the gimmick he had: Activators, very much like the Flipchangers discussed before.

The only one I had from those was a Thundercracker I got as a gift and it was a pleasant surprise; good to know it extended to the rest of the line instead of being one single good mold.

griftimus prime wrote:you know its funny how some of the best beast wars toys were one step flip a switch and it transforms from good looking animal to good looking figure. and i would consider those for everyone.

not sure why they do not make transformers like this anymore.

I think another good thing from those figures (and the above Animated Activators) was that, while the one-step certainly dominated the transformation, it wasn't the end-all-be-all of the process: you could fiddle with the limbs, head and kibble a bit to get the best of both modes. Instead, most modern one-step seem to limit the transformation to just that and the figure suffers from it both in articulation and accuracy.


ZeldaTheSwordsman wrote:
Sabrblade wrote:Different design teams 26 years apart.
I'd say it was more that the auto-changers of old were "main" toys, whereas the movie line 1-steps were mostly budget toys akin to Cyber Battalion.

Most likely. There's a reason the Deluxe class was called Deluxe, after all: the one-steps were the intended baseline size in BW.
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Postby chuckdawg1999 » Wed Mar 30, 2022 1:04 am

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This makes me think we'll be getting an evolution of the one-step transformation that will give us complete and show accurate robot modes,possibly with full articulation.
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chuckdawg1999 wrote:This makes me think we'll be getting an evolution of the one-step transformation that will give us complete and show accurate robot modes,possibly with full articulation.


The only problem with "one step" Transformers with full articulations is that they can only be one step from vehicle to robot. The transformation is then slowed to a crawl for the other way around. Unless they manage to create a mechanism that set the limbs in position at the push of a button? And even then, it would be TWO steps at the very least.
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chuckdawg1999 wrote:This makes me think we'll be getting an evolution of the one-step transformation that will give us complete and show accurate robot modes,possibly with full articulation.


The only problem with "one step" Transformers with full articulations is that they can only be one step from vehicle to robot. The transformation is then slowed to a crawl for the other way around. Unless they manage to create a mechanism that set the limbs in position at the push of a button? And even then, it would be TWO steps at the very least.
In that case, simply don't market them with the name "1-Step" but instead with a new name like "Quick Change" or something. ;)
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Postby -Kanrabat- » Wed Mar 30, 2022 12:03 pm

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Sabrblade wrote:In that case, simply don't market them with the name "1-Step" but instead with a new name like "Quick Change" or something. ;)


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Postby Jelze Bunnycat » Wed Mar 30, 2022 2:38 pm

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chuckdawg1999 wrote:This makes me think we'll be getting an evolution of the one-step transformation that will give us complete and show accurate robot modes,possibly with full articulation.


The only problem with "one step" Transformers with full articulations is that they can only be one step from vehicle to robot. The transformation is then slowed to a crawl for the other way around. Unless they manage to create a mechanism that set the limbs in position at the push of a button? And even then, it would be TWO steps at the very least.


Looking at the MW and BW Flipchangers, all you'd need to do is straighten the arms and legs. Having a locking system for the limbs would go a long way to improve that.
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Postby RotorstormNZ » Thu Mar 31, 2022 7:46 pm

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Re: New Transformation Styles Coming to the Transformers Earthspark Toyline Including Magic Conversion

Postby chuckdawg1999 » Sat Apr 02, 2022 2:05 pm

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chuckdawg1999 wrote:This makes me think we'll be getting an evolution of the one-step transformation that will give us complete and show accurate robot modes,possibly with full articulation.


The only problem with "one step" Transformers with full articulations is that they can only be one step from vehicle to robot. The transformation is then slowed to a crawl for the other way around. Unless they manage to create a mechanism that set the limbs in position at the push of a button? And even then, it would be TWO steps at the very least.
In that case, simply don't market them with the name "1-Step" but instead with a new name like "Quick Change" or something. ;)


Most of the figures Hasbro has released as One-Step changers are usually more than one step either way. Reminds me, we never got that One-Step VW Beetle from the Bumblebee movie.
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Transformers Podcast: Twincast / Podcast #348 - Uno
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