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Re: Perfect Effect Combiner Wars Superion Upgrade Kit

Postby Autobot N » Mon Jul 20, 2015 1:54 pm

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Rated X wrote:I hope when Victorion comes out, Perfect Effect does a special set for her with high heel style boots and smaller more feminine hands. It would also be cool if they make her some breasts that could peg in to the holes on both sides of the defensor chest plate.

Kinda like this (minus the breasts)?
http://tfwiki.net/wiki/File:CW-Victoriontoy.jpg

Those arent bad but theres always room for 3rd party improvement. Maybe some boots that look less like leprechaun shoes and PEs individually articulated fingers would be preferable. And we gotta have the breasts. Thats the most important thing. Its would be a crime not to take advantage of those holes on her chest.

They already did. Why else would Rust Dust exist?
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Re: Perfect Effect Combiner Wars Superion Upgrade Kit

Postby Rated X » Mon Jul 20, 2015 2:14 pm

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Decepticon Sunstorm wrote:
Rated X wrote:
Decepticon Sunstorm wrote:
Rated X wrote:I hope when Victorion comes out, Perfect Effect does a special set for her with high heel style boots and smaller more feminine hands. It would also be cool if they make her some breasts that could peg in to the holes on both sides of the defensor chest plate.

Kinda like this (minus the breasts)?
http://tfwiki.net/wiki/File:CW-Victoriontoy.jpg

Those arent bad but theres always room for 3rd party improvement. Maybe some boots that look less like leprechaun shoes and PEs individually articulated fingers would be preferable. And we gotta have the breasts. Thats the most important thing. Its would be a crime not to take advantage of those holes on her chest.

They already did. Why else would Rust Dust exist?

Not sure I get what youre saying...how will rust dust enulate brests? Victorion is not a man. She doesnt need a weird motorcycle thing on her chest, she needs some breasts.
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Re: Perfect Effect Combiner Wars Superion Upgrade Kit

Postby Autobot N » Mon Jul 20, 2015 2:31 pm

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Rated X wrote:
Decepticon Sunstorm wrote:
Rated X wrote:
Decepticon Sunstorm wrote:
Rated X wrote:I hope when Victorion comes out, Perfect Effect does a special set for her with high heel style boots and smaller more feminine hands. It would also be cool if they make her some breasts that could peg in to the holes on both sides of the defensor chest plate.

Kinda like this (minus the breasts)?
http://tfwiki.net/wiki/File:CW-Victoriontoy.jpg

Those arent bad but theres always room for 3rd party improvement. Maybe some boots that look less like leprechaun shoes and PEs individually articulated fingers would be preferable. And we gotta have the breasts. Thats the most important thing. Its would be a crime not to take advantage of those holes on her chest.

They already did. Why else would Rust Dust exist?

Not sure I get what youre saying...how will rust dust enulate brests? Victorion is not a man. She doesnt need a weird motorcycle thing on her chest, she needs some breasts.

They filled the holes with a chestplate.
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Re: Perfect Effect Combiner Wars Superion Upgrade Kit

Postby megatronus » Mon Jul 20, 2015 3:35 pm

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Re: Perfect Effect Combiner Wars Superion Upgrade Kit

Postby Evil Eye » Mon Jul 20, 2015 3:40 pm

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No amount of upgrades short of a completely new set of toys is gonna fix Victorion.
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Re: Perfect Effect Combiner Wars Superion Upgrade Kit

Postby megatronus » Mon Jul 20, 2015 3:58 pm

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I'm not sure she needs fixing.
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Re: Perfect Effect Combiner Wars Superion Upgrade Kit

Postby Evil Eye » Mon Jul 20, 2015 4:04 pm

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Well the combined mode is OK (although evidently the hands and feet do nothing outside of combined mode which is LAAAAME).

The individual 'bots though? For something as monumental as the first all-female combiner team, a bunch of minimal effort retools of very obviously male robots is disappointing. Yes, yes, budget this and budget that, but they really should have been original molds, or at the very least COMPLETE reshells.
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Re: Perfect Effect Combiner Wars Superion Upgrade Kit

Postby Genocide G2.0 » Mon Jul 20, 2015 4:39 pm

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I just wanna see hasbro tweek the colour's and tone them down a bit .

Im not blown away by it but it is unique enough by being female to buy .. though I would like to know if takara wil be doing this because I'm sure they wont be happy with that colour scheme and will do it some justice .
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Re: Perfect Effect Combiner Wars Superion Upgrade Kit

Postby Moosey » Mon Jul 20, 2015 5:02 pm

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Rated X wrote:
Decepticon Sunstorm wrote:
Rated X wrote:
Decepticon Sunstorm wrote:
Rated X wrote:I hope when Victorion comes out, Perfect Effect does a special set for her with high heel style boots and smaller more feminine hands. It would also be cool if they make her some breasts that could peg in to the holes on both sides of the defensor chest plate.

Kinda like this (minus the breasts)?
http://tfwiki.net/wiki/File:CW-Victoriontoy.jpg

Those arent bad but theres always room for 3rd party improvement. Maybe some boots that look less like leprechaun shoes and PEs individually articulated fingers would be preferable. And we gotta have the breasts. Thats the most important thing. Its would be a crime not to take advantage of those holes on her chest.

They already did. Why else would Rust Dust exist?

Not sure I get what youre saying...how will rust dust enulate brests? Victorion is not a man. She doesnt need a weird motorcycle thing on her chest, she needs some breasts.

Female TF's don't need breasts. Does Optimus prime need accurate human male features? No. So stop having a double standard.
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Re: Perfect Effect Combiner Wars Superion Upgrade Kit

Postby Genocide G2.0 » Mon Jul 20, 2015 5:28 pm

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I get what X means ALL the new Fembots have breasts and Optimus Has the typical bodybuilder look , big chest six pack abs and package

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The various fembot breast.

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Re: Perfect Effect Combiner Wars Superion Upgrade Kit

Postby Moosey » Mon Jul 20, 2015 6:24 pm

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I mean, I guess... But is EVERY "male" TF built like that? Honestly I don't have a problem with victorion at all, she looks feminine enough and i'm totally fine with that.
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Re: Perfect Effect Combiner Wars Superion Upgrade Kit

Postby Madeus Prime » Mon Jul 20, 2015 6:36 pm

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Without playing mod, I'd suggest we cool our jets here. There's a perfectly good Victorion thread where you can argue it out about how non-feminine they look.

Too cap this topic, yes, Victorion is not to everybody's taste, yes, she doesn't look very female, yes, a third party upgrade wouldn't go amiss.

So, on the topic of how these upgrade kits look, I believe somebody a while back asked if you could peg on the foot Gatling guns into Hot Spot's back:

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Also, while slightly off topic, anybody got any idea how this set is?
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Menasor is somewhat disappointing, regardless of his meh feet and back heaviness, so I'm wondering if it's worth it to buy this set, or pickup that compatible third party super accurate Motormaster.
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Re: Perfect Effect Combiner Wars Superion Upgrade Kit

Postby Autobot N » Mon Jul 20, 2015 6:41 pm

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Also, while slightly off topic, anybody got any idea how this set is?
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Menasor is somewhat disappointing, regardless of his meh feet and back heaviness, so I'm wondering if it's worth it to buy this set, or pickup that compatible third party super accurate Motormaster.

Well, it hasn't been released on BBTS yet, so I don't think many people have got their hands on it. However, I'm definitely picking it up, seeing as it makes the disappointing Menasor look amazing! Hope they make a version of it for Optimus Maximus.
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Re: Perfect Effect Combiner Wars Superion Upgrade Kit

Postby megatronus » Mon Jul 20, 2015 6:47 pm

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Decepticon Sunstorm wrote:Well, it hasn't been released on BBTS yet, so I don't think many people have got their hands on it. However, I'm definitely picking it up, seeing as it makes the disappointing Menasor look amazing! Hope they make a version of it for Optimus Maximus.

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Re: Perfect Effect Combiner Wars Superion Upgrade Kit

Postby Agamemnon » Mon Jul 20, 2015 6:51 pm

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I've got both the black and purple sets. I think I have the white set in my POL at BBTS. I like them a lot for their playability. However, believe it or not, the CW figures still tend to be floppy, where very dynamic poses are much more stable than simply standing there. I should post some pics of the Protectobots in vehicle mode with the PE "guns" all over Blades and Hotspot. Very bad-ass looking, and very different than M-Prime's pic above...
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Re: Perfect Effect Combiner Wars Superion Upgrade Kit

Postby Rated X » Mon Jul 20, 2015 7:09 pm

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Moosey wrote:
Rated X wrote:
Decepticon Sunstorm wrote:
Rated X wrote:
Decepticon Sunstorm wrote:
Rated X wrote:I hope when Victorion comes out, Perfect Effect does a special set for her with high heel style boots and smaller more feminine hands. It would also be cool if they make her some breasts that could peg in to the holes on both sides of the defensor chest plate.

Kinda like this (minus the breasts)?
http://tfwiki.net/wiki/File:CW-Victoriontoy.jpg

Those arent bad but theres always room for 3rd party improvement. Maybe some boots that look less like leprechaun shoes and PEs individually articulated fingers would be preferable. And we gotta have the breasts. Thats the most important thing. Its would be a crime not to take advantage of those holes on her chest.

They already did. Why else would Rust Dust exist?

Not sure I get what youre saying...how will rust dust enulate brests? Victorion is not a man. She doesnt need a weird motorcycle thing on her chest, she needs some breasts.

Female TF's don't need breasts. Does Optimus prime need accurate human male features? No. So stop having a double standard.


Well if thats the case....why even bother giving them genders ?

I was really hoping the accusations of sexism and double standards seen on the "Hasbro only" threads wouldnt spill here...

The bottom line is they ARE females and females HAVE breasts.

We could get into the whole "but they are robots from another planet" argument. But then, why do they have legs ? why do they have eyes ? Why do they have fingers ?

Answer: they are modeled after human beings. And last time I checked, female human beings HAVE breasts.

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Re: Perfect Effect Combiner Wars Superion Upgrade Kit

Postby Autobot N » Mon Jul 20, 2015 7:15 pm

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megatronus wrote:
Decepticon Sunstorm wrote:Well, it hasn't been released on BBTS yet, so I don't think many people have got their hands on it. However, I'm definitely picking it up, seeing as it makes the disappointing Menasor look amazing! Hope they make a version of it for OPTIMUS MAXIMUS.

They are.

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Re: Perfect Effect Combiner Wars Superion Upgrade Kit

Postby Agamemnon » Mon Jul 20, 2015 7:18 pm

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megatronus wrote:
Decepticon Sunstorm wrote:Well, it hasn't been released on BBTS yet, so I don't think many people have got their hands on it. However, I'm definitely picking it up, seeing as it makes the disappointing Menasor look amazing! Hope they make a version of it for OPTIMUS MAXIMUS.

They are.

That's Ultra Prime. Talking 'bout dis: http://tfwiki.net/wiki/File:Generations ... ageart.jpg

You could use the black set. Or perhaps you are looking for something in gunmetal grey?
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Re: Perfect Effect Combiner Wars Superion Upgrade Kit

Postby megatronus » Mon Jul 20, 2015 7:20 pm

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Decepticon Sunstorm wrote:
megatronus wrote:
Decepticon Sunstorm wrote:Well, it hasn't been released on BBTS yet, so I don't think many people have got their hands on it. However, I'm definitely picking it up, seeing as it makes the disappointing Menasor look amazing! Hope they make a version of it for OPTIMUS MAXIMUS.

They are.

That's Ultra Prime. Talking 'bout dis: http://tfwiki.net/wiki/File:Generations ... ageart.jpg

Ohhhhh...

But white Prime hasn't been released... I'm sure someone will make something. More likely than not, it will just be a redeco of what I linked to.
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Re: Perfect Effect Combiner Wars Superion Upgrade Kit

Postby Autobot N » Mon Jul 20, 2015 7:22 pm

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Agamemnon wrote:
Decepticon Sunstorm wrote:
megatronus wrote:
Decepticon Sunstorm wrote:Well, it hasn't been released on BBTS yet, so I don't think many people have got their hands on it. However, I'm definitely picking it up, seeing as it makes the disappointing Menasor look amazing! Hope they make a version of it for OPTIMUS MAXIMUS.

They are.

That's Ultra Prime. Talking 'bout dis: http://tfwiki.net/wiki/File:Generations ... ageart.jpg

You could use the black set. Or perhaps you are looking for something in gunmetal grey?

Wasn't talking about the hand/foot sets, though I would like a gunmetal grey set for him. What I was talking about is this: http://www.bigbadtoystore.com/bbts/prod ... ode=retail.
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Re: Perfect Effect Combiner Wars Superion Upgrade Kit

Postby Yotsuyasan » Mon Jul 20, 2015 8:18 pm

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Rated X wrote:The bottom line is they ARE females and females HAVE breasts.

We could get into the whole "but they are robots from another planet" argument. But then, why do they have legs ? why do they have eyes ? Why do they have fingers ?

Answer: they are modeled after human beings. And last time I checked, female human beings HAVE breasts.

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Well, technically human males have breasts, too. (Warning, while that link is to a Wikipedia article, it does contain photographs of breasts. So it may be considered NSFW.) They just aren't typically as pronounced or as well matured as those found on females due to the lower estrogen levels males have.

And for that matter, not every adult female is the same. Not all of them develop the, if you'll pardon the expression, gigantic bazoombas such as the woman in the photo you chose to share. There are adult females with mid sized breasts, or small breasts. Or even some who are still flat chested as an adult. And there is nothing wrong with that. That's just the natural variety of the human breast.

So the ladies of Victorion aren't the most well endowed in the chest department. Some may even say they are flat chested. That doesn't mean that they are less women then bots who do have breasts. And if this was the only thing "wrong" with these toys, it wouldn't stop me from buying them.

(Rather, I'm just not buying Victorion because I don't like the toys overall. But breasts or lack thereof never entered into it!)

And now... in an effort to actually say something on topic, here's a few of the plethora of photos I've taken for a review of Superion (and the new hands & feet) that I hope to write soon!

First, a split screen before and after shot comparing Superion with the stock hands & feet vs. with the PE hands & feet:

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Second, facing off against my Menasor (the Fansproject one), because... well, Superion vs. Menasor, duh!

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Re: Perfect Effect Combiner Wars Superion Upgrade Kit

Postby Mkall » Mon Jul 20, 2015 10:32 pm

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Yotsuyasan wrote:And for that matter, not every adult female is the same. Not all of them develop the, if you'll pardon the expression, gigantic bazoombas such as the woman in the photo you chose to share. There are adult females with mid sized breasts, or small breasts. Or even some who are still flat chested as an adult. And there is nothing wrong with that. That's just the natural variety of the human breast.

I work in the mining industry. There are women of literally every shape and curve-degree you can imagine there. It's just so amazing watching all these comments that basically tell me that women get ignored if their curves don't appeal to the commenter.

Why are we discussing Victorion in the Superion thread again?
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Re: Perfect Effect Combiner Wars Superion Upgrade Kit

Postby Rated X » Tue Jul 21, 2015 3:32 am

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Yotsuyasan wrote:And for that matter, not every adult female is the same. Not all of them develop the, if you'll pardon the expression, gigantic bazoombas such as the woman in the photo you chose to share. There are adult females with mid sized breasts, or small breasts. Or even some who are still flat chested as an adult. And there is nothing wrong with that. That's just the natural variety of the human breast.

I work in the mining industry. There are women of literally every shape and curve-degree you can imagine there. It's just so amazing watching all these comments that basically tell me that women get ignored if their curves don't appeal to the commenter.

Why are we discussing Victorion in the Superion thread again?

Working in a major international airport, I easily see 1000+ women a day in all shapes and sizes. The good, the bad, and the ugly. Nobody's ignoring any particular type here. Im just telling what particular type looks best on my shelf. That doesnt make me sexist. There is no double standard. I like what I like because I think it looks good. Why would a chevy guy buy a ford ? Why would a vegetarian eat meat ? Thats the real double standard. When ever female body preferences get discussed, people get all touchy, but never get touchy about other preferences.

Also I was under the impression this was a perfect effect combiner wars upgrade thread. Never even gave it a thought that it was limited to superion considering PE is using the same molds in different colors for different combiners. And I reckon perfect effect should do a Victorion upgrade set and it should contain breasts.
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Re: Perfect Effect Combiner Wars Superion Upgrade Kit

Postby Genocide G2.0 » Tue Jul 21, 2015 3:52 am

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Yotsuyasan wrote:And for that matter, not every adult female is the same. Not all of them develop the, if you'll pardon the expression, gigantic bazoombas such as the woman in the photo you chose to share. There are adult females with mid sized breasts, or small breasts. Or even some who are still flat chested as an adult. And there is nothing wrong with that. That's just the natural variety of the human breast.

I work in the mining industry. There are women of literally every shape and curve-degree you can imagine there. It's just so amazing watching all these comments that basically tell me that women get ignored if their curves don't appeal to the commenter.

Why are we discussing Victorion in the Superion thread again?

Working in a major international airport, I easily see 1000+ women a day in all shapes and sizes. The good, the bad, and the ugly. Nobody's ignoring any particular type here. Im just telling what particular type loos best to .e on my shelf. That doesnt make me sexist. There is no double standard. I like what I like because I think it looks good. Why would a chevy guy buy a ford ? Why would a vegetarian eat meat ? Thats the real double standard. When ever female body preferences get discussed, people get all touchy, but never get touchy about other preferences.

Also I was under the impression this was a perfect effect combiner wars upgrade thread. Never even gave it a thought that it was limited to superion considering PE is using the same molds in different colors for different combiners. And I reckon perfect effect should do a Victorion upgrade set and it should contain breasts.


Not sure why we cant talk about victorion upgrades in a 3rdp thread for the company who will most likely be the first to put an upgrade out for her ??

And on the sexist remarks look at all the fembot pics I posted they all have a slender body and pert breasts .
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Decepticon Sunstorm wrote:Well, it hasn't been released on BBTS yet, so I don't think many people have got their hands on it. However, I'm definitely picking it up, seeing as it makes the disappointing Menasor look amazing! Hope they make a version of it for OPTIMUS MAXIMUS.

They are.

That's Ultra Prime. Talking 'bout dis: http://tfwiki.net/wiki/File:Generations ... ageart.jpg

Ohhhhh...

But white Prime hasn't been released... I'm sure someone will make something. More likely than not, it will just be a redeco of what I linked to.

Yeah, 'cause that set does look pretty cool, but I don't use the red and blue Prime as a combiner solely because he doesn't have assigned limbs.
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