Duke of Luns wrote:...
However, Car Robots Gigatron(the original Japanese release) can't transform into the extra four modes that were added to Devil Gigatron's(a.k.a. Rid Galvatron) mold(boat, griffin, single headed dragon, mammoth)...
Duke of Luns wrote:Nothing different besides color as far as I know. However, Car Robots Gigatron(the original Japanese release) can't transform into the extra four modes that were added to Devil Gigatron's(a.k.a. Rid Galvatron) mold(boat, griffin, single headed dragon, mammoth), but since Rid Megatron is a repaint of Devil Gigatron, he can transform into those modes.
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Overcracker wrote:Duke of Luns wrote:...
However, Car Robots Gigatron(the original Japanese release) can't transform into the extra four modes that were added to Devil Gigatron's(a.k.a. Rid Galvatron) mold(boat, griffin, single headed dragon, mammoth)...
How come?
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sto_vo_kor_2000 wrote:Overcracker wrote:Duke of Luns wrote:...
However, Car Robots Gigatron(the original Japanese release) can't transform into the extra four modes that were added to Devil Gigatron's(a.k.a. Rid Galvatron) mold(boat, griffin, single headed dragon, mammoth)...
How come?
The original Gigatron mold was re-tooled for extra modes and repainted and called Devil Gigatron.
But Hasbro didnt use the original Gigatron mold for their RID Megatron figure.
They used the re-tooled Devil Gigatron mold and painted it ti match the original paint sceme of Gigatron.
Overcracker wrote:
Ohh o.k that makes sense.
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Mykltron wrote:Thanks for all the help guys! The comparison pics got chopped short but I can see enough of Ironhide to get the idea...
Overcracker wrote:I'm Curious too. Looking at my Galvatron it doesn't seem like any extra joints were put in for the extra modes that weren't already in use for the original modes.
Mykltron wrote:Does anyone have the japanese release of (purple) Megatron? I'm wondering if it really isn't possible to put him in the extra four modes. Cos when I put mine in those extra modes it really feels like someone at Hasbro said "hey look what I can do with mine!" and someone else said "that's cool, why don't we stick it in the instructions?". Cos while the elephant mode is good for a laugh it is pretty unconvincing and, well, laughable!
Mykltron wrote:C'mon, one of you collectors who buys every variation of a toy must be able to answer this question!!!
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Mykltron wrote:Does anyone have the japanese release of (purple) Megatron? I'm wondering if it really isn't possible to put him in the extra four modes. Cos when I put mine in those extra modes it really feels like someone at Hasbro said "hey look what I can do with mine!" and someone else said "that's cool, why don't we stick it in the instructions?". Cos while the elephant mode is good for a laugh it is pretty unconvincing and, well, laughable!
Counterpunch wrote:Mykltron wrote:Does anyone have the japanese release of (purple) Megatron? I'm wondering if it really isn't possible to put him in the extra four modes. Cos when I put mine in those extra modes it really feels like someone at Hasbro said "hey look what I can do with mine!" and someone else said "that's cool, why don't we stick it in the instructions?". Cos while the elephant mode is good for a laugh it is pretty unconvincing and, well, laughable!
It ain't possible.
sto_vo_kor_2000 wrote:Mykltron wrote:Does anyone have the japanese release of (purple) Megatron? I'm wondering if it really isn't possible to put him in the extra four modes. Cos when I put mine in those extra modes it really feels like someone at Hasbro said "hey look what I can do with mine!" and someone else said "that's cool, why don't we stick it in the instructions?". Cos while the elephant mode is good for a laugh it is pretty unconvincing and, well, laughable!Mykltron wrote:C'mon, one of you collectors who buys every variation of a toy must be able to answer this question!!!
I cant answer your underlining question [since I dont have CR Gigatron] but I can tell you it wasnt Hasbro that came up with the extra 4 [or what ever] modes.
Sorry, I'm not following you. Gigatron is Hasbro isn't it? And if they didn't come up with them how did they get in the instructions? I don't have the white toy - the extra modes are in the instructions, aren't they?
Devil Gigatron [RID Galvatron] had those extra modes before any of the Hasbro releases.
Mykltron wrote:sto_vo_kor_2000 wrote:Mykltron wrote:Does anyone have the japanese release of (purple) Megatron? I'm wondering if it really isn't possible to put him in the extra four modes. Cos when I put mine in those extra modes it really feels like someone at Hasbro said "hey look what I can do with mine!" and someone else said "that's cool, why don't we stick it in the instructions?". Cos while the elephant mode is good for a laugh it is pretty unconvincing and, well, laughable!Mykltron wrote:C'mon, one of you collectors who buys every variation of a toy must be able to answer this question!!!
I cant answer your underlining question [since I dont have CR Gigatron] but I can tell you it wasnt Hasbro that came up with the extra 4 [or what ever] modes.
Sorry, I'm not following you. Gigatron is Hasbro isn't it? And if they didn't come up with them how did they get in the instructions? I don't have the white toy - the extra modes are in the instructions, aren't they?
Devil Gigatron [RID Galvatron] had those extra modes before any of the Hasbro releases.
Dave wrote: Four new "official" modes are given in the transformation instructions,
which continue the multichanger trend of being a grand tour of modes rather
than trying to include all the possible "mode N to mode M" instructions (of
which there are 45 for 10 modes, assuming my brain hasn't been fried by all
the box-shifting and driving I've done today). Three of these modes (pardon
if I get the names wrong, my net connection has been down for an hour as I
type this, so I can't look them up), the GigaPegasus, GigaBird and
GigaHydrofoil, can be made using the regular Gigatron. However, the
GigaElephant requires a new tab and slot arrangement molded into Devil
Gigatron. The base of the "thumb" piece (I tend to think in terms of
GigaHand) locks into the middle of the wing piece. Regular Gigatron can be
put in the GigaElephant shape, but it's less stable because of the lack of
this remold.
Mykltron wrote:
Sorry, I'm not following you. Gigatron is Hasbro isn't it? And if they didn't come up with them how did they get in the instructions? I don't have the white toy - the extra modes are in the instructions, aren't they?
Devil Gigatron [RID Galvatron] had those extra modes before any of the Hasbro releases.
Overcracker wrote:
Gigatron is Takara's doing, and since they designed the molds they came up with the extra modes. However Hasbro apparently used the Devil Gigatron mold (white and black) instead of the Gigatron mold (purple). For their releases of both R.I.D Megatron and Galvatron.
The point here is everybody claims Takara's Gigatron mold (purple) can't transform into the additional molds that Devil Gigatron and Hasbro's American releases of both characters can.
But nobody has given a reason. I have yet to here from anybody that owns an original Takara Gigatron if it really truly lacks a joint that prevents it from transforming into the additional modes.
EDIT: Searched a bit online and found this:Dave wrote: Four new "official" modes are given in the transformation instructions,
which continue the multichanger trend of being a grand tour of modes rather
than trying to include all the possible "mode N to mode M" instructions (of
which there are 45 for 10 modes, assuming my brain hasn't been fried by all
the box-shifting and driving I've done today). Three of these modes (pardon
if I get the names wrong, my net connection has been down for an hour as I
type this, so I can't look them up), the GigaPegasus, GigaBird and
GigaHydrofoil, can be made using the regular Gigatron. However, the
GigaElephant requires a new tab and slot arrangement molded into Devil
Gigatron. The base of the "thumb" piece (I tend to think in terms of
GigaHand) locks into the middle of the wing piece. Regular Gigatron can be
put in the GigaElephant shape, but it's less stable because of the lack of
this remold.
Quoted from Dave's Transformers Page:
http://www.eyrie.org/~dvandom/BW/RiD/index.html
Daves Own Review of Devil Gigatron.
Si I guess basically the lack of the tab makes the nose just fall down and not lock into place for Elephant mode. Otherwise it seems, Gigatron can actually transform into all the modes that Devil Gigatron can.
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