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[megatronus]

It's brilliant marketing.

Cheeky and dickheaded, but brilliant.

No brilliant was when they released Silverbolt, Onslaught, Menasor, and a few versions of Motorbreath before and we bought them.

But Ultra Class Onslaught and Silverbolt are awesome... I have no regrets there.

[Breakdown318]

I know hasbro won't do this, so I shouldn't even say it, but am I the only one hoping for Raiden? However, I am sure that's only a dream.

[Grahf_]

Just noticed something about the Superion image. He's got two Fireflys (Fireflies?) as his arms, and no trace of Air Raid.

Anyone else find it hilarious that, in the Superion picture, there are two Fireflights and no Air Raid?

It's probably because the picture is using just figures from wave one while Air Raid is wave two. If you look at the Optimus Prime combiner, it has Dragstrip as an arm for the same reason. Menasor is using it's "correct" limbs because all of them but Dragstrip are wave two and since you'll be getting wave one before wave two well you know; reasons, things and stuff.

[JustPlainME]

I'm sensing a HOT SPOT repaint from the Motormaster/Optimus mold. I wouldn't mind if we get some Good Protectobots out of it that aren't all repaints. Also, I didn't read the entire thread yet, but did anyone notice that Superion's arms are where his legs should be and vice versa? Fireflight and Slingshot are supposed to be the arms (not ruling out the whole Scramble City thing, I'm strictly referring to the G1 cartoon where they were sort of pre-configured and never really changed up like they did in Scramble City).

[Flashwave]

That Slingshot helicopter and Wildrider truck is just plain wrong. It's like if Hasbro did it on purpose. They basically said, lets nail 4 and get the 5th one all wrong just to piss off the fans. It's always something with Hasbro. If they are scramble city, we can always hope Funpub makes good on where Hasbro failed. A proper Slingshot repaint with retooled wings from the Fireflight mold. And a repaint of Breakdown with a new Wildrider head. And maybe Dr. Wu can make a new head that looks more like Menasor and less like Unicron.

What if, Hasbro did this on purpose, and Wave 3 will have a proper Wildrider and Slingshot? Enforcing the ScrambleCity nature by replacing two figures you WANT with new characters and forcing you to therefore buy Add-on figures?

ueah, I don't think Hasbro's that smart either...

EDIT: Aannndddd WolfmanJake said the same thing a page back. Nevermind...

Also, I'd bet (someone else's) money they designed Menasor's head based on the PCC Crankcase figure.

Motor master reminds me of the upcoming Tomy Kennedy Optimus. Is he a remold?

Optimus is the remold.

Honest question, and I've been wondering this since Springer/Sandstorm, how do we tell which came first? In this case, we can sorta guess based on the Stunticosn, but the artwork shows they were planning on using Prime for Combiner fodder anyway so...

[Flashwave]

It's brilliant marketing.

Cheeky and dickheaded, but brilliant.

No brilliant was when they released Silverbolt, Onslaught, Menasor, and a few versions of Motorbreath before and we bought them.

But Ultra Class Onslaught and Silverbolt are awesome... I have no regrets there.

Me neither, and thankfully, the mold will be living on through Darkwind.

[gavinfuzzy]

If these new combiners really are "Scramble City" types, I can see Hasbro releasing a proper Slingshot and Wildrider further down the line that you can use instead of Alpha Bravo or Offroad. Think about it. They get you two buy these alternate "new" characters as limbs now to complete each combiner, then throw the rest of the proper team members our way later, making us buy two toys we may have passed on had they come later on instead. It's brilliant marketing.

The damn copter looks ALOT like blast off... if you remove the rotors and add some wings.

Brilliant indeed.

[KREOFAN85]

love the new kre-o battle changers.

[Nemesis Destron]

These combiners are a great improvement from the recent Combaticons fiasco. I feel there is room for improvement from some 3rd Party groups for both Superion and Menasor.

[durroth]

The same for Wildrider. I am reaaaaaaaally hoping for a Technobot set.

You're wanting a Technobot set, I'm wanting a Combaticon set, everybody's wanting a Constructicon set...

The contructicons must be unique in that, rather than 4 limbs and a body, they have 4 limbs, a lower body, and prowl. PLEASE HASBRO

[frogbat]

Am I bummbed cos I already have generations onslaught and silverbolt? nope. Same with powerglide and the multiple iterations of Optimus prime. I'd have been more pissed if i invested in third party figures cos of the costs involved.

A few gripes - slingshot might've been better as fireflight's mode as he was a vtol and the new fireflight seems to take after that look (tho a helicopter can make sense too), I have a feeling the chopper's been included because it will feature in repaints for vortex and or blades.

Stunticons look great and they all look great fun to play with... but menasor's head is atrocious. They always seemed to have problems getting it right. my g1 toy also bothered me for being a bit bug eyed. I thought my wallet would get a break cos of the film, how wrong was i??

[g60force]

about the helicopter in the superion team.....
no worries buddy, you're gonna b retooled into Vortex and redecoed into Blades
and if not I will do it myself, buy another slingshot or firefly and created it into a worthy plane superion team member or vice versa!!!

[Fuhzimota]

Excited for these...good to know that HasTak hasn't forgotten about all of us willing waiting and wanting combiner fans (although I bet the healthy, overpriced secondary market for gestalts probably swayed them), and I'm sure that we'll see a few revisions and tweaks for each set yet to come. As an aside, I would put my money on a Devastator set - I've been working on a Scoop repaint, and I've been curious about all of the extra detailing inside his hollow legs, seems like a waste of design dollars unless those two radial-pump looking thingies in their are male connector points, and given the fact that he can not only stand in for Scrapper, but he can be turned into a darn good replica of Devastator's foot. I know it sounds crazy, but hey, I called the Windblade/Cyclonus thing, and everybody body thought I was waaaay off base... so who knows? Mebbe our favorite toy company has some more surprises right under our noses! I'm just stoked that some of us that collect on a budget will finally be able to afford some modern-era combiners!!!

[It Is Him]

Didn't see this being said before, but Alpha Bravo's bot mode is pretty much Slingshot. The head sculpt and the body style is spot on, and I couldn't be more excited



versus this

[It Is Him]

Didn't see this being said before, but Alpha Bravo's bot mode is pretty much Slingshot. The head sculpt and the body style is spot on, and I couldn't be more excited



versus this

[It Is Him]

Club get to plans for my G2 colored Stunticons and Aerialbots please.

It's going to be great buying a 10 different repaints of these releases! I mean that!

[bluecatcinema]

The combiners and RID toys all look great. 2015's going to be a good year.

[Stormrider]

The details and colors are great. But I am happier with my 3P gestalts now. I still don't have a 3P Superion, but willing to wait.

[shockblast2]

What idiot Hasbro executive thinks the children (to whom this toy line survives) will give a **** about obscure combiner characters? Not to mention the fact that parents are not going to shell out $90 each for these. Yeah, the adult fans will buy them, but they are a VERY small percentage of sales. And at $16 a pop, this line is finished.

With Hasbro's crap quality these days, I will be surprised that if they can even stand up straight.

[WiseMan]

I'm still waiting for a Metrotitan or Necrotitan figure from titan Metroplex.

[shockblast2]

Wow. Nothing but corporate fast talk with no direct answer to any question. What is the point of even trying to ask?

[Optimizzy]

oh my god.

oh my god.

That Menasor.

Yep thats the same mold as Prime. Looks good as Motormaster. Hopefully as good as prime.

[rpetras]

Seeing these, I'm happy I've gone 3P for my combiners.

No thanks.

[Wolfman Jake]

Didn't see this being said before, but Alpha Bravo's bot mode is pretty much Slingshot. The head sculpt and the body style is spot on, and I couldn't be more excited



versus this

The resemblance is very apparent, but that head sculpt is Vortex all the way. It would have been nice had they bothered to pretool a different face for "not Slingshot." I still think we'll be surprised with what Hasbro and Takara have up their sleeves with these combiners.

Also, just to further add fuel to the "brilliant marketing" fire...what if we get proper versions of Slingshot and Wildrider, but ONLY as part of special edition giftsets of Superion or Menasor. Hasbro will make you rebuy four figures just to get one new one, and have a perfectly plausible reason (excuse) to do so!

[OptimalOptimus2]

What idiot Hasbro executive thinks the children (to whom this toy line survives) will give a **** about obscure combiner characters? Not to mention the fact that parents are not going to shell out $90 each for these. Yeah, the adult fans will buy them, but they are a VERY small percentage of sales. And at $16 a pop, this line is finished.

With Hasbro's crap quality these days, I will be surprised that if they can even stand up straight.

Ahem. When you have first seen the Constructicons, Aerialbots, Combaticons, etc., were you like "WHOA!" or super excited. If you had, then I'm pretty sure kids will also love the Combiners too.

Don't believe me? Next year go to Toys"R"Us a week before Christmas.