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by **Atommyc** » Wed Jul 20, 2011 10:23 pm

Can't wait for Bulkhead and the Vehicon. So are these guys coming out the same time as Arcee and the others or is this Wave 2?

News Credits: 2 · by **First-Aid** » Wed Jul 20, 2011 10:24 pm

Three words only:

EP

IC

WIN

These look FANTASTIC! I am thoroughly enjoying the TV series and these are amazing representations.

News Credits: 5 · by **5150 Cruiser** » Wed Jul 20, 2011 10:32 pm

Very cool! Been waiting to see Bulkhead for a while now, and i'm pleasently surprised by his overall design. Seems to be fairly accurate to the show.
Optimus, Cliff, and the vehicon are all great as well. Hopfully they will all be as easy to transform as the animated figures were.
NOw lets see some Leader class figures!

by **amtm** » Wed Jul 20, 2011 11:01 pm

Still not a fan of the animated aesthetic. It's fine when you're watching a cartoon and can forget about it due to the voice acting and action (though still way more stylized than I'd like), but when you turn it into a physical object it just looks silly. I get that they're trying to combine the movie look with the Transformers Animated look, but Animated is my least favorite of all the Transformers looks to date. And movie is not much better due to all the crappy faces and monstrosities that were supposed to be Decepticons.

So, of these, the only one I am thinking about picking up right now is Bulkhead, and that's because he looks slightly less silly than his Animated version, which granted was a good toy, but still too goofy looking for me.

News Credits: 37 · by **SlyTF1** » Wed Jul 20, 2011 11:12 pm

I haven't been this excited about a toyline since Animated! I just wish we didn't have to wait so long! Why Hasbro, why? :-(

by **caloocan6th** » Wed Jul 20, 2011 11:17 pm

Autobot032 wrote:O_O FANTASTIC.

Animated? You've just been replaced.

My only problem is Bulkhead's left arm. I'd really like a second hand for him, but I'll survive because this is just friggin' awesome.

PS'ed image of TF: Prime Bulkhead

It looks like that the wrecking ball is just a peg on accessory.

by **Catalyst_Prime** » Wed Jul 20, 2011 11:21 pm

Question!: So if cliffjumper is now a zombie, then explain to me why Megatron wasnt a zombie when he was revived in ROTF hhhmmmmmmmmm??????? :-B

was it the lack of dark energon or did Bay not want to make ROTF's story seem even more ridiculous :grin:

News Credits: 5 · by **Doctor McGrath** » Wed Jul 20, 2011 11:23 pm

Prime and Bulkhead will be mine :grin:

News Credits: 4 · by **Megazarak** » Wed Jul 20, 2011 11:29 pm

Catalyst_Prime wrote:Question!: So if cliffjumper is now a zombie, then explain to me why Megatron wasnt a zombie when he was revived in ROTF hhhmmmmmmmmm??????? was it the lack of dark energon or did Bay not want to make ROTF's story seem even more ridiculous

A shard of the allspark was used to reignite Megatron's Spark (at least I think that's what happened, it's pretty unclear to be fair), so he was never revived like Cliffjumper was. Cliffjumper's Spark was also extinguished, like movie Megatron's, but from what I understand when he was revived his Spark never came back, or at least not like it should have if he was simply brought back to life. He was basically a mindless shell that was moving because of a power source and killing because of the negative influence of the dark energon.

News Credits: 37 · by **SlyTF1** » Wed Jul 20, 2011 11:32 pm

Megazarak wrote:
Catalyst_Prime wrote:Question!: So if cliffjumper is now a zombie, then explain to me why Megatron wasnt a zombie when he was revived in ROTF hhhmmmmmmmmm??????? was it the lack of dark energon or did Bay not want to make ROTF's story seem even more ridiculous

A shard of the allspark was used to reignite Megatron's Spark (at least I think that's what happened, it's pretty unclear to be fair), so he was never revived like Cliffjumper was. Cliffjumper's Spark was also extinguished, like movie Megatron's, but from what I understand when he was revived his Spark never came back, or at least not like it should have if he was simply brought back to life, he was basically a lifeless shell that was moving because of a power source.

How was it unclear? The whole first part of the movie (The Decepticon story anyway.) where the Decepticons looking for the shard of the Allspark to revive Megatron!

News Credits: 2 · by **NemesisMonkeySupreme** » Wed Jul 20, 2011 11:33 pm

I'm really impressed with the Prime toy images seen so far. Not a fan of the Starscream and Megatron designs, but this Optimus looks much better than the SDCC exclusive (it's called colouring/painting the figure completely Hasbro!). Those Vehicons are epic! I just watched my first episode of Prime yesterday (free on iTunes but been sitting on it for months) and ended up buying the whole season. Hoping for a non-zombie (spoiler, for me) Cliffjumper…

News Credits: 4 · by **Megazarak** » Wed Jul 20, 2011 11:37 pm

SlyTF1 wrote:
Megazarak wrote:
Catalyst_Prime wrote:Question!: So if cliffjumper is now a zombie, then explain to me why Megatron wasnt a zombie when he was revived in ROTF hhhmmmmmmmmm??????? was it the lack of dark energon or did Bay not want to make ROTF's story seem even more ridiculous

A shard of the allspark was used to reignite Megatron's Spark (at least I think that's what happened, it's pretty unclear to be fair), so he was never revived like Cliffjumper was. Cliffjumper's Spark was also extinguished, like movie Megatron's, but from what I understand when he was revived his Spark never came back, or at least not like it should have if he was simply brought back to life, he was basically a lifeless shell that was moving because of a power source.

How was it unclear? The whole first part of the movie (The Decepticon story anyway.) where the Decepticons looking for the shard of the Allspark to revive Megatron!

Ya, well, the underwater scene was done so oddly. Meh. Regardless, I only saw the movie once (and some parts a second time for whatever reason), and I don't know, I guess I wasn't paying attention while watching it, especially that part. The infiltration and what not to get the shard was clear, in particular the second part when they actually go to get Megatron was a little unclear. What like a bunch of cons in murky water go see him. They kill one of themselves and one is left to assume that they use that dead con for parts and subsequently use the shard to revive Megs.

Edit: Just rewatched that part and I guess it's pretty clear when you take a good look at it (and I was trying to be nice earlier). Stupid Scalpel's voice remains unclear though.

News Credits: 10 · by **Trikeboy** » Thu Jul 21, 2011 12:06 am

NemesisMonkeySupreme wrote:I'm really impressed with the Prime toy images seen so far. Not a fan of the Starscream and Megatron designs, but this Optimus looks much better than the SDCC exclusive (it's called colouring/painting the figure completely Hasbro!). Those Vehicons are epic! I just watched my first episode of Prime yesterday (free on iTunes but been sitting on it for months) and ended up buying the whole season. Hoping for a non-zombie (spoiler, for me) Cliffjumper…

You do realise the SDCC Optimus Prime is the Deluxe version and this new pic is of the Voyager version right? On that note, why are they showing us the Voyager, which is 100 times better than the deluxe when they will be wanting to sell the Deluxe as a SDCC exclusive?

Transformers Prime toys will all be purchased, they are awesome. Optimus, Bulkhead and, after Peaugh's review, Starscream will be bought on sight.

News Credits: 5 · by **5150 Cruiser** » Thu Jul 21, 2011 12:08 am

Catalyst_Prime wrote:Question!: So if cliffjumper is now a zombie, then explain to me why Megatron wasnt a zombie when he was revived in ROTF hhhmmmmmmmmm??????? was it the lack of dark energon or did Bay not want to make ROTF's story seem even more ridiculous

You asnswered your own question. They used dark energon to revieve Cliff Jumper and a shard piece from the all spark was used to bring Megatron from ROTF back to life. Every bot that was brought back with dark energon was a zombie.

by **Catalyst_Prime** » Thu Jul 21, 2011 12:16 am

5150 Cruiser wrote:
Catalyst_Prime wrote:Question!: So if cliffjumper is now a zombie, then explain to me why Megatron wasnt a zombie when he was revived in ROTF hhhmmmmmmmmm??????? was it the lack of dark energon or did Bay not want to make ROTF's story seem even more ridiculous

You asnswered your own question. They used dark energon to revieve Cliff Jumper and a shard piece from the all spark was used to bring Megatron from ROTF back to life. Every bot that was brought back with dark energon was a zombie.

BUt then explain why in WFC when all the decepticons were infused with dark energon that they didnt turn into zombies or I could make the point that if Megatron wanted more disposable drones he could have taken the corpses of dead decepticons and revived them with dark energon then he would have his own zombie army!!!

by **SPRINGER112** » Thu Jul 21, 2011 12:17 am

Prime is just so awsome

and so is bulkhead

but cliff :BANG_HEAD:

so not getting him

by **BATTOUSAIXD** » Thu Jul 21, 2011 12:33 am

All of them look great!

Website · by **Varia31** » Thu Jul 21, 2011 12:36 am

Catalyst_Prime wrote:BUt then explain why in WFC when all the decepticons were infused with dark energon that they didnt turn into zombies or I could make the point that if Megatron wanted more disposable drones he could have taken the corpses of dead decepticons and revived them with dark energon then he would have his own zombie army!!!

You can't be turned into a zombie if you're not dead. Megatron knew enough about the Dark Energon to where he knew he could harness it as a power source. And also, WFC and Prime are different, and inconsistent. Dark Energon in WFC was a substance guarded by Starscream in Trypticon Station for millennia, and it had the properties to infect and corrupt.

In Prime, Dark Energon is also known as the "Blood of Unicron", and Starscream exhibits no knowledge of past experiences of it whatsoever, other than his understanding of the "legends". Dark Energon also had the properties to infect and corrupt, but could also resurrect the dead in a zombified state, something that was never shown in WFC. Megatron and Starscream even shove a Dark Energon shard into their Spark Cavities and it does what it did in WFC, supercharge them with power. Although in Prime, Megatron had symbiosis with, and had the power to control, the zombies because of his powerful mind and will.

Lastly, Dark Energon can restore the dead, but in a negative way that would create the whole zombie situation. On the other hand, the Allspark is the giver of life in the Movieverse, it is the only thing other than the Matrix of Leadership that can fully restore a Transformer's Spark to full life in a positive way, think the breath of life. Whearas Dark Energon's life giving power is artificial, thus why zombies end up being the result.

Well, while I'm here, I think I'll just say that I WANT THAT OPTIMUS! Yes, yet another to add to my collection of Optimus Primes. lol

by **Sunspot** » Thu Jul 21, 2011 12:44 am

love bulk head and optimus is nice but its dissapointing that his windows are fake. the ones in the truck rent the ones on his chest.

by **starwarrior1227** » Thu Jul 21, 2011 1:07 am

i will get wheeljack, deluxe arcee, and deluxe ss( but the last two are for kitbashes to make slipstream, and an animated prowl) and thats it. i like the show but there are a few things like asthetics(VERY minor gripe for these) that don't fit my style.
and i am not saying i will absolutly NOT, cuz i might, it is just:
1. i want a leader optimus
2. not a fan of bulkhead
3. vehicon looks kiblish
4. if i get clif. i will repaint him and call him battle dammaged clifj.

by **Screamfleet** » Thu Jul 21, 2011 1:18 am

Doubledealer25 wrote:also im getting as much of the decepticon drones as possible.

For real, you're going to army build them?

News Credits: 2 · by **NemesisMonkeySupreme** » Thu Jul 21, 2011 1:37 am

Trikeboy wrote:
NemesisMonkeySupreme wrote:I'm really impressed with the Prime toy images seen so far. Not a fan of the Starscream and Megatron designs, but this Optimus looks much better than the SDCC exclusive (it's called colouring/painting the figure completely Hasbro!). Those Vehicons are epic! I just watched my first episode of Prime yesterday (free on iTunes but been sitting on it for months) and ended up buying the whole season. Hoping for a non-zombie (spoiler, for me) Cliffjumper…

You do realise the SDCC Optimus Prime is the Deluxe version and this new pic is of the Voyager version right?

Nope. Didn't realise that. But that still doesn't explain the SDCC having a plain grey chest housing.

Screamfleet wrote:
Doubledealer25 wrote:also im getting as much of the decepticon drones as possible.

For real, you're going to army build them?

He's not going to be alone. That's all I'm saying. Of course, you're talking to someone who has a "Stockade Brigade" as the minions of Nemesis Prime/Shadow Commander, sort of like The Sweeps. Currently trying to figure out the best way to re-number all their "S7"s to individual designations "Sxx".

Also, thinking those Vehicons will make some seriously bad-ass Bat-Drones… (from Kingdom Come).

News Credits: 8 · by **Flashwave** » Thu Jul 21, 2011 1:45 am

One, I'd bet soemone else's life that Normal Cliffy is gonna be an exclusive.

Two HUZZAH! BULKHEAD HAS LEGS!!! There were Minicons with longer limbs than his Animated self, and I mean side by side literal length. YEAH LEGS!

by **OlivusPrime** » Thu Jul 21, 2011 2:02 am

Man, I don't even watch the show, and I think these are awesome.

News Credits: 1 · by **Sodan-1** » Thu Jul 21, 2011 2:03 am

WANT!

WANT!

PASS!

REALLY WANT!!!

They all look AWESOME! DAMMIT! I was hoping to pass on this line but I don't think that'll be possible now. Undead Transformers for the mother-effing win! The Decepticon looks great but I can't be bothered with another army builder. Bring it on Hasbro.