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News Credits: 5 · by **skywarp-2** » Mon Sep 10, 2007 5:51 am

tigertracks 24 wrote:
Duke of Luns wrote:
tigertracks 24 wrote:I just bought a GOBOT called Puzzler from BBTS. Gobots are interesting, but haven't been so enough, until this guy, a yellow countach lamborghini.

I couldn't pass on it, could I...(Tigertracks = yellow version of Sideswipe a countach of course).

Ah, Pocket(ok, Gobots had some bad names). I have him, and half of Puzzler. I should complete him someday. That is one thing that's good about Puzzler from the looks of it, there are no extra parts, they're all built in. And the face just screams Sunstreaker:

Well I went and nabbed the other five to see what this is all about. So I should be able to complete the 'car' puzzler when I have them all sent.

I really like the car puzzler set, it looks very cool.. but I'm kinda interested in seeing what that "Monster" Puzzler set is all about, if you look up in the bottom section of the Gobots picture in the image above he's at the bottom and shows the rest of his crew to assemble him into what looks like a pretty freaking badass design of Predaking!!!

check out this puzzler commercial circa 1984!!! It'll make you scream for a gestalt Gobot!!! seriously, I'm impressed!!

Puzzler commercial:
http://www.retrojunk.com/details_commercial/3201/

Also I really had a thing for their Monster bots, they were really cool, especially Creepy!! he was a pretty sweet looking bot!!
http://www.retrojunk.com/details_commercial/3200/

Also I foundd the entire set of Puzzlers cars for 69.99 Loose with 10.00 shipping, is that a fair price for them..??
here is the images of the toys:

I agree, Hasbro could learn a thing or 2 about gestalts from the gobots...Look at that Puzzler bot!!! He is almost completely Diecast!!! Devestator was almost completely plastic, and could break easily.. this thing is like Hotwheels but diecast sweetness in bot form!!!

News Credits: 1 · by **Duke of Luns** » Mon Sep 10, 2007 7:35 am

Couple other things I thougth about:

Firstly, this'd be an easy digibash/repaint if Hasbro ever wanted to do another GoBot homage, Skyblast convert into....Fitor! I never had Fitor, but he looks pretty cool. And Skyblast is one of my personal favorite Autobots:

The other thing that occurred to me is when I was reading about how a kid could amass a small army for little money, I thought about how cool it is for a kid that Cy-Kill and Leader-1 are in that price range too. Yeah they were leaders, but they weren't three to four times the price of a regular bot like Prime and Megatron have been the past few years. And how much did those "Super GoBots" cost back in the day, like $10?

News Credits: 767 · by **Dead Metal** » Mon Sep 10, 2007 7:42 am

skywarp-2 wrote:
tigertracks 24 wrote:
Duke of Luns wrote:
tigertracks 24 wrote:I just bought a GOBOT called Puzzler from BBTS. Gobots are interesting, but haven't been so enough, until this guy, a yellow countach lamborghini.

I couldn't pass on it, could I...(Tigertracks = yellow version of Sideswipe a countach of course).

Ah, Pocket(ok, Gobots had some bad names). I have him, and half of Puzzler. I should complete him someday. That is one thing that's good about Puzzler from the looks of it, there are no extra parts, they're all built in. And the face just screams Sunstreaker:

Well I went and nabbed the other five to see what this is all about. So I should be able to complete the 'car' puzzler when I have them all sent.

I really like the car puzzler set, it looks very cool.. but I'm kinda interested in seeing what that "Monster" Puzzler set is all about, if you look up in the bottom section of the Gobots picture in the image above he's at the bottom and shows the rest of his crew to assemble him into what looks like a pretty freaking badass design of Predaking!!!

check out this puzzler commercial circa 1984!!! It'll make you scream for a gestalt Gobot!!! seriously, I'm impressed!!

Puzzler commercial:
http://www.retrojunk.com/details_commercial/3201/

Also I really had a thing for their Monster bots, they were really cool, especially Creepy!! he was a pretty sweet looking bot!!
http://www.retrojunk.com/details_commercial/3200/

Also I foundd the entire set of Puzzlers cars for 69.99 Loose with 10.00 shipping, is that a fair price for them..??
here is the images of the toys:

I agree, Hasbro could learn a thing or 2 about gestalts from the gobots...Look at that Puzzler bot!!! He is almost completely Diecast!!! Devestator was almost completely plastic, and could break easily.. this thing is like Hotwheels but diecast sweetness in bot form!!!

Diecast sweetness? I thoght you hated Diecast.

Yea them look good I would love on of em Gestalts.

News Credits: 125 · by **Counterpunch** » Mon Sep 10, 2007 7:49 am

skywarp-2 wrote:

I agree, Hasbro could learn a thing or 2 about gestalts from the gobots...Look at that Puzzler bot!!! He is almost completely Diecast!!! Devestator was almost completely plastic, and could break easily.. this thing is like Hotwheels but diecast sweetness in bot form!!!

Big car wang?

News Credits: 767 · by **Dead Metal** » Mon Sep 10, 2007 7:53 am

Counterpunch wrote:
skywarp-2 wrote:

I agree, Hasbro could learn a thing or 2 about gestalts from the gobots...Look at that Puzzler bot!!! He is almost completely Diecast!!! Devestator was almost completely plastic, and could break easily.. this thing is like Hotwheels but diecast sweetness in bot form!!!

Big car wang?

I knew someone would say something like that!

News Credits: 125 · by **Counterpunch** » Mon Sep 10, 2007 7:59 am

Dead Metal wrote:
Counterpunch wrote:
skywarp-2 wrote:

I agree, Hasbro could learn a thing or 2 about gestalts from the gobots...Look at that Puzzler bot!!! He is almost completely Diecast!!! Devestator was almost completely plastic, and could break easily.. this thing is like Hotwheels but diecast sweetness in bot form!!!

Big car wang?

I knew someone would say something like that!

Puzzler is just happy someone remembers him.

by **lanzajr26** » Mon Sep 10, 2007 7:59 am

Counterpunch wrote:
skywarp-2 wrote:

I agree, Hasbro could learn a thing or 2 about gestalts from the gobots...Look at that Puzzler bot!!! He is almost completely Diecast!!! Devestator was almost completely plastic, and could break easily.. this thing is like Hotwheels but diecast sweetness in bot form!!!

Big car wang?

Beat me to it

He does at least look like a complete robot unlike a lot of other TF gestalts. Even Devastator suffers from looking lopsided and mismatched.

News Credits: 767 · by **Dead Metal** » Mon Sep 10, 2007 8:02 am

Counterpunch wrote:
Dead Metal wrote:
Counterpunch wrote:
skywarp-2 wrote:
I agree, Hasbro could learn a thing or 2 about gestalts from the gobots...Look at that Puzzler bot!!! He is almost completely Diecast!!! Devestator was almost completely plastic, and could break easily.. this thing is like Hotwheels but diecast sweetness in bot form!!!

Big car wang?

I knew someone would say something like that!

Puzzler is just happy someone remembers him.

Very happy by the looks of it!

News Credits: 5 · by **skywarp-2** » Mon Sep 10, 2007 8:02 am

Duke of Luns wrote:Couple other things I thougth about:

Firstly, this'd be an easy digibash/repaint if Hasbro ever wanted to do another GoBot homage, Skyblast convert into....Fitor! I never had Fitor, but he looks pretty cool. And Skyblast is one of my personal favorite Autobots:

Wow that skyblast is an uncanny representation of Fitor!!! Sweet!! I like Fitor's colors better then the Skyblast colors.. nice find!! i'm gonna have to start picking up figures just ot repaint them and kitbash them into updated Gobots..

Dead Metal wrote:Diecast sweetness? I thoght you hated Diecast.

Actually I like Diecast in certain respects.. and in certain uses it's fine, like the MP Prime, Gobots toys, G-1 toys.. but the Titaniums sucked and used diecast improperly.. it just depends on how much and what the uses are for..

Counterpunch wrote:
skywarp-2 wrote:

I agree, Hasbro could learn a thing or 2 about gestalts from the gobots...Look at that Puzzler bot!!! He is almost completely Diecast!!! Devestator was almost completely plastic, and could break easily.. this thing is like Hotwheels but diecast sweetness in bot form!!!

Big car wang?

Yeah the GoBots were Bandai's attempt on trying to compensate for a widely held Japanese problem... :shock:

News Credits: 767 · by **Dead Metal** » Mon Sep 10, 2007 8:05 am

skywarp-2 wrote:
Duke of Luns wrote:Couple other things I thougth about:

Firstly, this'd be an easy digibash/repaint if Hasbro ever wanted to do another GoBot homage, Skyblast convert into....Fitor! I never had Fitor, but he looks pretty cool. And Skyblast is one of my personal favorite Autobots:

Wow that skyblast is an uncanny representation of Fitor!!! Sweet!! I like Fitor's colors better then the Skyblast colors.. nice find!! i'm gonna have to start picking up figures just ot repaint them and kitbash them into updated Gobots..

Dead Metal wrote:Diecast sweetness? I thoght you hated Diecast.

Actually I like Diecast in certain respects.. and in certain uses it's fine, like the MP Prime, Gobots toys, G-1 toys.. but the Titaniums sucked and used diecast improperly.. it just depends on how much and what the uses are for..

Counterpunch wrote:
skywarp-2 wrote:

I agree, Hasbro could learn a thing or 2 about gestalts from the gobots...Look at that Puzzler bot!!! He is almost completely Diecast!!! Devestator was almost completely plastic, and could break easily.. this thing is like Hotwheels but diecast sweetness in bot form!!!

Big car wang?

Yeah the GoBots were Bandai's attempt on trying to compensate for a widely held Japanese problem...

Yea the tits kinda suck, but I love WWI Megs :grin:

by **megatroptimus** » Mon Sep 10, 2007 8:10 am

Puzzler and Dancougar put all G1 combiners to shame.

News Credits: 5 · by **skywarp-2** » Mon Sep 10, 2007 8:11 am

Dead Metal wrote:
skywarp-2 wrote:
Duke of Luns wrote:Couple other things I thougth about:

Firstly, this'd be an easy digibash/repaint if Hasbro ever wanted to do another GoBot homage, Skyblast convert into....Fitor! I never had Fitor, but he looks pretty cool. And Skyblast is one of my personal favorite Autobots:

Wow that skyblast is an uncanny representation of Fitor!!! Sweet!! I like Fitor's colors better then the Skyblast colors.. nice find!! i'm gonna have to start picking up figures just ot repaint them and kitbash them into updated Gobots..

Dead Metal wrote:Diecast sweetness? I thoght you hated Diecast.

Actually I like Diecast in certain respects.. and in certain uses it's fine, like the MP Prime, Gobots toys, G-1 toys.. but the Titaniums sucked and used diecast improperly.. it just depends on how much and what the uses are for..

Counterpunch wrote:
skywarp-2 wrote:

I agree, Hasbro could learn a thing or 2 about gestalts from the gobots...Look at that Puzzler bot!!! He is almost completely Diecast!!! Devestator was almost completely plastic, and could break easily.. this thing is like Hotwheels but diecast sweetness in bot form!!!

Big car wang?

Yeah the GoBots were Bandai's attempt on trying to compensate for a widely held Japanese problem...

Yea the tits kinda suck, but I love WWI Megs

crap I forgot about WWI Megs... but wasn't he designed here in the States?? I guess that's what we like on this side of the world...Big Bazoombas, and apparently on the male characters too!!! :shock:

Oh My!!!

News Credits: 767 · by **Dead Metal** » Mon Sep 10, 2007 8:15 am

NO, tits as in in Titaniums! :shock:

The Titaniums suck ecept WWI Megs, but he still is a MAN! :grin:

News Credits: 125 · by **Counterpunch** » Mon Sep 10, 2007 8:20 am

Dead Metal wrote:NO, tits as in in Titaniums!
The Titaniums suck ecept WWI Megs,

and Starscream
and Thundercracker
and Sunstorm
and Scourge
and Ultra Magnus
and Fallen
and Cheetor
and Rodimus
and Menaser

(Optimal, Rid, Soundwave, and GI Megatron actuall do suck...)

News Credits: 767 · by **Dead Metal** » Mon Sep 10, 2007 8:27 am

Counterpunch wrote:
Dead Metal wrote:NO, tits as in in Titaniums!
The Titaniums suck ecept WWI Megs,

and Starscream
and Thundercracker
and Sunstorm
and Scourge
and Ultra Magnus
and Fallen
and Cheetor
and Rodimus
and Menaser

(Optimal, Rid, Soundwave, and GI Megatron actuall do suck...)

Don't know about the Seekers, not realised here, I only know Soundwave, WW Megatron, G1 Ultra Magnus and Rodumus Prime.

The only suckness on Rodimus is, he Rodiumus, his head looks like he looks at the floor, and his chest looks like it wants to fall over, ather then that an exelent fugure.
G1 Ultra Magnus has is arms to far back his head is to far fron and his arms have the crappiest balljoints ever, pluss his legs are almost G1 stile, no articulation to speack of.
Don't let me start about Soundwave!

News Credits: 1082 · by **Tigertrack** » Mon Sep 10, 2007 10:05 am

It's interesting that the thread degenerated to TITs and happiness (wang) jokes, and got right back on track.

I did just order the 6 Puzzlers from BBTS, and it was more than the one you found Skywarp-2, so I'd say you got a good deal.

I am curious to know how tall they are individually and combined compared to, oh say Menasor, and the Stunticons... :-?

by **lanzajr26** » Mon Sep 10, 2007 10:23 am

Bah, BBTS had Crasher available last Friday but she's sold out now

Back to the hunt on eBay!

News Credits: 1082 · by **Tigertrack** » Mon Sep 10, 2007 10:48 am

lanzajr26 wrote:Bah, BBTS had Crasher available last Friday but she's sold out now Back to the hunt on eBay!

Yeah, she was there, and I missed her too.

Oh well, Gobots, not priority...yet.

News Credits: 5 · by **skywarp-2** » Mon Sep 10, 2007 12:07 pm

Duke of Luns wrote:Couple other things I thougth about:

Firstly, this'd be an easy digibash/repaint if Hasbro ever wanted to do another GoBot homage, Skyblast convert into....Fitor! I never had Fitor, but he looks pretty cool. And Skyblast is one of my personal favorite Autobots:

The other thing that occurred to me is when I was reading about how a kid could amass a small army for little money, I thought about how cool it is for a kid that Cy-Kill and Leader-1 are in that price range too. Yeah they were leaders, but they weren't three to four times the price of a regular bot like Prime and Megatron have been the past few years. And how much did those "Super GoBots" cost back in the day, like $10?

If you were to repaint him, it would be easy i think..
yeah he sure does make a good Fitor!!!

by **lanzajr26** » Mon Sep 10, 2007 12:26 pm

It also looks like Brakedown could be a good kitbash candidate for Crusher. Skywarp-2, feel free to digibash

News Credits: 5 · by **skywarp-2** » Mon Sep 10, 2007 12:32 pm

lanzajr26 wrote:It also looks like Brakedown could be a good kitbash candidate for Crusher. Skywarp-2, feel free to digibash

Hmmm that might look better then the digibash I did of Classics Mirage into her...I'll work up something tonight, or later this afternoon...

News Credits: 1 · by **Duke of Luns** » Mon Sep 10, 2007 12:46 pm

skywarp-2 wrote:
lanzajr26 wrote:It also looks like Brakedown could be a good kitbash candidate for Crusher. Skywarp-2, feel free to digibash

Hmmm that might look better then the digibash I did of Classics Mirage into her...I'll work up something tonight, or later this afternoon...

For a Cybertronian mode, yeah, but for an Earth/toy accurate mode, and if you don't mind it being close to the original size, Universe Spychanger Wheeljack is much better:

And speakin of Crasher, does anyone remember a Gobot episode where Crasher got captured or something and was put in some kind of a machine and shown good images, which caused her pain? I have a tape of a few GoBot episodes, and Cy-Kill had some kind of a machine that did something like that, but not the episode I was thinking of. Also, it had to be put out on tape, cause otherwise I never could have seen it.

News Credits: 5 · by **skywarp-2** » Mon Sep 10, 2007 12:58 pm

Duke of Luns wrote:
skywarp-2 wrote:
lanzajr26 wrote:It also looks like Brakedown could be a good kitbash candidate for Crusher. Skywarp-2, feel free to digibash

Hmmm that might look better then the digibash I did of Classics Mirage into her...I'll work up something tonight, or later this afternoon...

For a Cybertronian mode, yeah, but for an Earth/toy accurate mode, and if you don't mind it being close to the original size, Universe Spychanger Wheeljack is much better:

And speakin of Crasher, does anyone remember a Gobot episode where Crasher got captured or something and was put in some kind of a machine and shown good images, which caused her pain? I have a tape of a few GoBot episodes, and Cy-Kill had some kind of a machine that did something like that, but not the episode I was thinking of. Also, it had to be put out on tape, cause otherwise I never could have seen it.

Not sure about the Cartoon...

But after looking at all these images in succession, i gotta say that the Crasher Mold, even as basic as it is, is still aesthetically Leaps and Bounds over what I have already seen so far...Geez!!! it's been a long time!!! What a testament to the bots themselves... I must find Crasher, i must have that Fembot!!! she's the equivalent of Baroness from Gi Joe, or Evillynn from He-man!! I must have her!!

by **lanzajr26** » Mon Sep 10, 2007 1:17 pm

skywarp-2 wrote:But after looking at all these images in succession, i gotta say that the Crasher Mold, even as basic as it is, is still aesthetically Leaps and Bounds over what I have already seen so far...Geez!!! it's been a long time!!! What a testament to the bots themselves... I must find Crasher, i must have that Fembot!!! she's the equivalent of Baroness from Gi Joe, or Evillynn from He-man!! I must have her!!

Now you can join me in my eBay hunt!

News Credits: 5 · by **skywarp-2** » Mon Sep 10, 2007 2:38 pm

lanzajr26 wrote:
skywarp-2 wrote:But after looking at all these images in succession, i gotta say that the Crasher Mold, even as basic as it is, is still aesthetically Leaps and Bounds over what I have already seen so far...Geez!!! it's been a long time!!! What a testament to the bots themselves... I must find Crasher, i must have that Fembot!!! she's the equivalent of Baroness from Gi Joe, or Evillynn from He-man!! I must have her!!

Now you can join me in my eBay hunt!

already hunting!! I must admit, though I loath the spending, I do so love the chase... :grin:

http://www.tfu.info/Gobots/renegades.htm

now, Puzzler isn't the only Gestaslt I love from Gobots, there was also Monsterous!! which was robot monster Gobots combiners who became a Gestalt badass!!!

I still would love to have a leader one updated toy!!!