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MINDVVIPE wrote:RAcast wrote:datguy86 wrote:Wouldn't be surprised if this Unicron possessed Optimus, since Unicron would need the power of a Prime to wield any WMDs derived from Primus or the original 13 Prime's power.
Still, I love these types of box sets.
And suddenly we have a theory that makes sense. I mean, Megatron has a handful of Prime-equippable-only artifacts after all, and Unicron will be weak for the time being, he needs a body. And who better than Prime? In fact, what better TOOL than that forging hammer to fix Unicron properly??
Ya, that works well enough, but the figure doesn't really seem like Unicron is possessing Prime. It looks more like Prime found a way to diassemble Unicron and reassemble him into a weapon for his own use. Lets face it; Has/Tak can't get enough of Prime and pretty much give him everything - Power armour, his own metroplex like city former.![]()
But hey, I won't bum out the resta ya any further for those who are genuinely into the idea.
RAcast wrote:datguy86 wrote:Wouldn't be surprised if this Unicron possessed Optimus, since Unicron would need the power of a Prime to wield any WMDs derived from Primus or the original 13 Prime's power.
Still, I love these types of box sets.
And suddenly we have a theory that makes sense. I mean, Megatron has a handful of Prime-equippable-only artifacts after all, and Unicron will be weak for the time being, he needs a body. And who better than Prime? In fact, what better TOOL than that forging hammer to fix Unicron properly??
Sabrblade wrote:Guys, just take the Takara Prime Nemesis Prime toy and combine THAT with Unicron. There. Problem solved.
steelcity1990 wrote:usually i try to avoid buying AM figures because I'm not a huge fan of the Microns and the sticker application since most figures rely on stickers for a majority of there detail but I just might pick up unicron just because I doubt we'll be seeing him here any time soon. Hopefully he doesn't have many stickers.
It's really Mythical God-Autobot combination, considering the fact that Unicron resides with either faction, and the Decepticons are merely his disciples, but I get your point.guarayakha wrote:Story-wise this teamup doesn't really make any sense, but I'm liking the concept of a Decepticon+Autobot combination.
Henry921 wrote:You can always be counted on to listen to reason, Pryme.
Dead Metal wrote:Have you ever, and i mean ever seen/read/heard something that is completely original and does not copy/homage/pay tribute to something else? Here's a hint: Nope. You never have and you never will.
It's really Mythical God-Autobot combination, considering the fact that Unicron resides with either faction, and the Decepticons are merely his disciples, but I get your point.guarayakha wrote:Story-wise this teamup doesn't really make any sense, but I'm liking the concept of a Decepticon+Autobot combination.
Henry921 wrote:You can always be counted on to listen to reason, Pryme.
Dead Metal wrote:Have you ever, and i mean ever seen/read/heard something that is completely original and does not copy/homage/pay tribute to something else? Here's a hint: Nope. You never have and you never will.
Sabrblade wrote:Guys, just take the Takara Prime Nemesis Prime toy and combine THAT with Unicron. There. Problem solved.
While created by humans, Nemesis itself is not human. Unicron's stealing it and fusing it with himself could serve as an insult to us ("I'm stealing your precious invention and tarnishing it with my own essence.")Dr. Heavy B wrote:Sabrblade wrote:Guys, just take the Takara Prime Nemesis Prime toy and combine THAT with Unicron. There. Problem solved.
Problem NOT solved. In the Prime Cartoon, Nemesis Prime is a human creation. Unicron HATES the humans. Called them parasites, or somthing like that.
Shadowman wrote:This is Sabrblade we're talking about. His ability to store trivial information about TV shows is downright superhuman.
Caelus wrote:My wife pointed out something interesting about the prehistoric Predacons. I said that everyone was complaining because transforming for them mostly consisted of them just standing up-right. She essentially said, 'So? That's what our ancestors did.'
Sabrblade wrote:While created by humans, Nemesis itself is not human. Unicron's stealing it and fusing it with himself could serve as an insult to us ("I'm stealing your precious invention and tarnishing it with my own essence.")Dr. Heavy B wrote:Sabrblade wrote:Guys, just take the Takara Prime Nemesis Prime toy and combine THAT with Unicron. There. Problem solved.
Problem NOT solved. In the Prime Cartoon, Nemesis Prime is a human creation. Unicron HATES the humans. Called them parasites, or somthing like that.
You act like there would be some sort of teamwork involved in this. FYI, Unicron's no team player. He'd be one in the driver's seat, possessing the Nemesis unit and turning it against its creators. Nemesis is a non-living entity. Unicron could easily turn it into one of his own minions just as he does to other lesser beings. Plus, this Gaia Unicron toy does not represent Unicron himself, but one of his dirt-based avatars. In a sense, Unicron would be using a puppet controlling another puppet since he no longer possesses a corporeal form of his own. Unicron is the ultimate puppet master who takes what isn't his and twists and taints it into something ugly for his own gain. So what if he hate humans? He hate Primus' children (the Transformers, which include the Decepticons) yet still uses them just like he would use Nemesis.Dr. Heavy B wrote:Sabrblade wrote:While created by humans, Nemesis itself is not human. Unicron's stealing it and fusing it with himself could serve as an insult to us ("I'm stealing your precious invention and tarnishing it with my own essence.")Dr. Heavy B wrote:Sabrblade wrote:Guys, just take the Takara Prime Nemesis Prime toy and combine THAT with Unicron. There. Problem solved.
Problem NOT solved. In the Prime Cartoon, Nemesis Prime is a human creation. Unicron HATES the humans. Called them parasites, or somthing like that.
Unicron pairing himself up with a human creation would likely insult Unicron more. There are about a half dozen humans who know of Unicrons exsistance, compared to the 7 billion wandering around on earth. Not much of an insult. MEANWHILE, the god of chaos (Keyword: GOD) has to resort to teaming up with a human creation, created to resemble a direct decendent of his greatest enemy. Sorry, takara droped the ball (as usual).
Shadowman wrote:This is Sabrblade we're talking about. His ability to store trivial information about TV shows is downright superhuman.
Caelus wrote:My wife pointed out something interesting about the prehistoric Predacons. I said that everyone was complaining because transforming for them mostly consisted of them just standing up-right. She essentially said, 'So? That's what our ancestors did.'
Sabrblade wrote:You act like there would be some sort of teamwork involved in this. FYI, Unicron's no team player. He'd be one in the driver's seat, possessing the Nemesis unit and turning it against its creators. Nemesis is a non-living entity. Unicron could easily turn it into one of his own minions just as he does to other lesser beings. Plus, this Gaia Unicron toy does not represent Unicron himself, but one of his dirt-based avatars. In a sense, Unicron would be using a puppet controlling another puppet since he no longer possesses a corporeal form of his own. Unicron is the ultimate puppet master who takes what isn't his and twists and taints it into something ugly for his own gain. So what if he hate humans? He hate Primus' children (the Transformers, which include the Decepticons) yet still uses them just like he would use Nemesis.Dr. Heavy B wrote:Sabrblade wrote:While created by humans, Nemesis itself is not human. Unicron's stealing it and fusing it with himself could serve as an insult to us ("I'm stealing your precious invention and tarnishing it with my own essence.")Dr. Heavy B wrote:Sabrblade wrote:Guys, just take the Takara Prime Nemesis Prime toy and combine THAT with Unicron. There. Problem solved.
Problem NOT solved. In the Prime Cartoon, Nemesis Prime is a human creation. Unicron HATES the humans. Called them parasites, or somthing like that.
Unicron pairing himself up with a human creation would likely insult Unicron more. There are about a half dozen humans who know of Unicrons exsistance, compared to the 7 billion wandering around on earth. Not much of an insult. MEANWHILE, the god of chaos (Keyword: GOD) has to resort to teaming up with a human creation, created to resemble a direct decendent of his greatest enemy. Sorry, takara droped the ball (as usual).
Sabrblade wrote:You act like there would be some sort of teamwork involved in this. FYI, Unicron's no team player. He'd be one in the driver's seat, possessing the Nemesis unit and turning it against its creators. Nemesis is a non-living entity. Unicron could easily turn it into one of his own minions just as he does to other lesser beings. Plus, this Gaia Unicron toy does not represent Unicron himself, but one of his dirt-based avatars. In a sense, Unicron would be using a puppet controlling another puppet since he no longer possesses a corporeal form of his own. Unicron is the ultimate puppet master who takes what isn't his and twists and taints it into something ugly for his own gain. So what if he hate humans? He hate Primus' children (the Transformers, which include the Decepticons) yet still uses them just like he would use Nemesis.Dr. Heavy B wrote:Sabrblade wrote:While created by humans, Nemesis itself is not human. Unicron's stealing it and fusing it with himself could serve as an insult to us ("I'm stealing your precious invention and tarnishing it with my own essence.")Dr. Heavy B wrote:Sabrblade wrote:Guys, just take the Takara Prime Nemesis Prime toy and combine THAT with Unicron. There. Problem solved.
Problem NOT solved. In the Prime Cartoon, Nemesis Prime is a human creation. Unicron HATES the humans. Called them parasites, or somthing like that.
Unicron pairing himself up with a human creation would likely insult Unicron more. There are about a half dozen humans who know of Unicrons exsistance, compared to the 7 billion wandering around on earth. Not much of an insult. MEANWHILE, the god of chaos (Keyword: GOD) has to resort to teaming up with a human creation, created to resemble a direct decendent of his greatest enemy. Sorry, takara droped the ball (as usual).
Dr. Heavy B wrote:Sabrblade wrote:...
But Unicron would be forced to use a, lets call NP a thing, of human design. The fact is, Unicron would never use the tools of lesser creatures. Also, why on earth would he NEED to. He can create a dozen hundred foot dirt avatars of himself. Combining with a human machine would be pointless. Combining with ANYTHING would be pointless, but especially a machine of human design. Also, while Unicron may hate all Cybertronians, he holds a special hatred for "Primes". You saw how he reacted to finding out Optimus Prime was still alive.
Not unless he chose to on his own volition.Dr. Heavy B wrote:But Unicron would be forced to use a, lets call NP a thing, of human design.
He used BWII Galvatron's corpse (a lifeless body belonging to a race of lesser creatures) for himself in Beast Wars II.Dr. Heavy B wrote:The fact is, Unicron would never use the tools of lesser creatures.
Never said he'd NEED to. He could do it just cuz.Dr. Heavy B wrote:Also, why on earth would he NEED to. He can create a dozen hundred foot dirt avatars of himself. Combining with a human machine would be pointless. Combining with ANYTHING would be pointless, but especially a machine of human design.
All the more reason to twist and corrupt the image of a Prime into a hideous abomination that defies and insults the very nature of a Prime. See Universe Nemesis Prime for this kind of corruption.Dr. Heavy B wrote:Also, while Unicron may hate all Cybertronians, he holds a special hatred for "Primes". You saw how he reacted to finding out Optimus Prime was still alive.
Shadowman wrote:This is Sabrblade we're talking about. His ability to store trivial information about TV shows is downright superhuman.
Caelus wrote:My wife pointed out something interesting about the prehistoric Predacons. I said that everyone was complaining because transforming for them mostly consisted of them just standing up-right. She essentially said, 'So? That's what our ancestors did.'
Sabrblade wrote:Not unless he chose to on his own volition.Dr. Heavy B wrote:But Unicron would be forced to use a, lets call NP a thing, of human design.
Sabrblade wrote:He used BWII Galvatron's corpse (a lifeless body belonging to a race of lesser creatures) for himself in Beast Wars II.Dr. Heavy B wrote:The fact is, Unicron would never use the tools of lesser creatures.
Sabrblade wrote:Never said he'd NEED to. He could do it just cuz.Dr. Heavy B wrote:Also, why on earth would he NEED to. He can create a dozen hundred foot dirt avatars of himself. Combining with a human machine would be pointless. Combining with ANYTHING would be pointless, but especially a machine of human design.
But, suppose he wanted a herald to do his dirty work for him while he's in his dormant state post-season 1. And suppose, at this point, he wasn't picky and, through some means, got a hold of the Nemesis unit and created a living herald from it. Then he'd make it so this new minion of his could power up with the assistance of any of his dirt avatars when necessary.
Sabrblade wrote:All the more reason to twist and corrupt the image of a Prime into a hideous abomination that defies and insults the very nature of a Prime. See Universe Nemesis Prime for this kind of corruption.Dr. Heavy B wrote:Also, while Unicron may hate all Cybertronians, he holds a special hatred for "Primes". You saw how he reacted to finding out Optimus Prime was still alive.![]()
How does "Gaia" imply "good"? It just refers to his being inside the Earth and using dirt to create duplicates of himself.WarzoneBeta wrote:Look guys I'm sure this will all be explained when it is released. That said I'd like to direct your attention to a little detail.
Gaia Unicron. Not Dark, Lord, Dark Lord, or Dark God Unicron, but Gaia...this implies to me that our lovable giant robo-daddy Unicron may have been "influenced" (in the same way Scourge and Starscream in the past have been) by the Matrix. Possibly he goes good temporarily due to being forcibly turned good by the Matrix (aka Primus and the Primes of the Past).
Shadowman wrote:This is Sabrblade we're talking about. His ability to store trivial information about TV shows is downright superhuman.
Caelus wrote:My wife pointed out something interesting about the prehistoric Predacons. I said that everyone was complaining because transforming for them mostly consisted of them just standing up-right. She essentially said, 'So? That's what our ancestors did.'
Counterpunch wrote:FP sure does provide some F'd up head.
JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:I'll probably get yelled at for this but... It's just a toy. If you don't like a gimmick, don't use it.True, story-wise it doesn't make sense, but I don't care.
The Takara Nemesis toy will likely be sold as agavinfuzzy wrote:But still... why does it combine with Prime and not a Con...
Shadowman wrote:This is Sabrblade we're talking about. His ability to store trivial information about TV shows is downright superhuman.
Caelus wrote:My wife pointed out something interesting about the prehistoric Predacons. I said that everyone was complaining because transforming for them mostly consisted of them just standing up-right. She essentially said, 'So? That's what our ancestors did.'
LiKwid wrote:All of hat aside..I'd really just like to see pics of the Unicron figure..I dont care of he combines with a toaster oven, I would like to see what Im payin for before my dern pre order kicks in..naww mean
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