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metalformer wrote:*Sigh*
Somebody should make custom stickers for these packages (ala ReproLabel) to "correct" these "injustices" and restore its G1 Glory!
Rated X wrote:metalformer wrote:*Sigh*
Somebody should make custom stickers for these packages (ala ReproLabel) to "correct" these "injustices" and restore its G1 Glory!
Reprolabels for a box ??? Are you serious ??? (no offense)
I already got a nice place in my closet picked out for Runabout’s box. And yes I said “Runabout”.
It’s s**t like this that proves just how stupid copyrights really are under certain circumstances. Hasbro doesn’t even own the rights to the names of characters they created ??? WTF ??? There should be a law that a copyright has to be renewed every 5 years or it expires and is free for the taking. This would keep the names belonging to legitimate businesses and not copyright hoarders who buy rights when a franchise is about to go bankrupt. Does anyone know where the owner of the name “Runabout” is right now ??? He might be living under a highway sipping a bottle of cheap booze…
JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:Trademarks have to be registered first, then Hasbro needs to file reports on usage. All of that takes time, but reporting usage of a name already in possession is quickly done.
Also, registering new names costs quite a bit of money, so again Hasbro has made it a sport to re-use names they already have. "Breakaway" instead of "Getaway" and "Over-Run" instead of "Spastic" come to mind.
gavinfuzzy wrote:JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:Trademarks have to be registered first, then Hasbro needs to file reports on usage. All of that takes time, but reporting usage of a name already in possession is quickly done.
Also, registering new names costs quite a bit of money, so again Hasbro has made it a sport to re-use names they already have. "Breakaway" instead of "Getaway" and "Over-Run" instead of "Spastic" come to mind.
Spastic actually made the copyright. The boxes here still say "Spastic". The change with Over-Run was due to some people finding "spastic" offensive, so hasbro printed new stickers for the packaging to cover up the existing name.
Rated X wrote:
It’s s**t like this that proves just how stupid copyrights really are under certain circumstances. Hasbro doesn’t even own the rights to the names of characters they created ??? WTF ??? There should be a law that a copyright has to be renewed every 5 years or it expires and is free for the taking. This would keep the names belonging to legitimate businesses and not copyright hoarders who buy rights when a franchise is about to go bankrupt. Does anyone know where the owner of the name “Runabout” is right now ??? He might be living under a highway sipping a bottle of cheap booze…
Midnight_Fox wrote:Rated X wrote:
It’s s**t like this that proves just how stupid copyrights really are under certain circumstances. Hasbro doesn’t even own the rights to the names of characters they created ??? WTF ??? There should be a law that a copyright has to be renewed every 5 years or it expires and is free for the taking. This would keep the names belonging to legitimate businesses and not copyright hoarders who buy rights when a franchise is about to go bankrupt. Does anyone know where the owner of the name “Runabout” is right now ??? He might be living under a highway sipping a bottle of cheap booze…
Just to be clear: Copyright is NOT the same as Trademarks. A rant on Copyright doesn't apply here.
Trademarks protect signs or indicators(such as a name) that identifies products or services.
Copyright protects THINGS(such as an actual figure by protecting the rights to reproduce it exactly or a book by protecting the exact words and rights to reproduce it).
Runabout as a name falls under trademark, NOT copyright.
Trademarks MUST be lawfully used to be retained. If not actively used, it will be lost(usually after 5 years). If Hasbro doesn't have the trademark, it's their own fault for not using it for x number of years.
Rated X wrote:
Well if that’s the case, take my last post and remove the word “copyright” and replace it with the word “trademark”. Then re-read it.
I’m not trying to be rude, but the correct terminology is not my focus. I’m focusing on the concept that the name “Runabout” is 25 years old and it doesn’t matter who uses it now unless they are using it for another transformable robot. If the new “trademark” holder is using the name “Runabout” for a vacuum cleaner, there should be no case in any court of law. The reason being that nobody is going to mistake a vacuum cleaner for a transformable robot therefore neither company can claim damages. Case dismissed.
All this other legal drama is a bunch of BS.
*snort*Bumblevivisector wrote:But since this messes up the pairity of an iconic duo, I'm feeling just dickish enough about this that I'd like to be the first to posit the theory that, based on the nature of the last Over-Run rename, it was likely not so much a rights issue as a revelation that the British consider "Runabout" an offensive slur against children with hyperactivity disorder.
I know I deserve to have my TF Club account lock me out as soon as preorders open up for saying that, but thank you, won't you?
Counterpunch wrote:FP sure does provide some F'd up head.
DMSL wrote:Can't wait to get these. I do wish the rubsigns weren't there though. Just s painted on symbol would've sufficed.
LiKwid wrote:I think just 1 per member at first is ok but I hope to be able to get at least 2 of each. I like to have 1 open and 1 MISB.. Im thinking the limit will be 4 though..Seems like that was the number during last years exclusive run..
Stormrider wrote:So how do we go about getting a second Runamuck if it's the freebee? Can we order a second at the same time? And how does it work for ordering Runabout and SF Drift? Do I need to watch the computer and wait for the club to announce the open sale, and lounge at placing the order?
blackout446 wrote:i hope to join TCC sometime this month til then i just hope i can get enough money to buy over-run and drift before any firesale starts
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