The Energon Pub

Thu Feb 01, 2007 4:15 pm

Duke of Luns wrote:Be wary, the original ADV boxset(which I have) is not remastered, and the video quality isn't that great. There's a "Robotech Remastered" out now, though I don't have it. I assume it looks MUCH better. I've also heard it's uncut, and the original ADV release is cut.

I have a couple of the Robotech Remastered disks. From what I've seen, the reason it's called "uncut" is because it restores some footage from the original Japanese series that was removed before it aired originally. Most of this was, apparently, because it couldn't have made it onto American television with those elements intact.

They also include completely new title sequences, and, if I'm remembering correctly, redo the sound effects in a manner similar to what Rhino did with Transformers.

Now I don't have the entire Remastered set, so I can only go by the two disks I have, but I'm guessing this is pretty much the same throughout the set.

News Credits: 1 · Sat Feb 03, 2007 10:11 am

I found the site of the guys who made "Phoenix King". They did a whole bunch of Rip-off anime', with lots of screen caps from each, and most of it is quite amusing:

http://nandakorea.sakura.ne.jp/koreanime.html

*edit* The third Diaclone triple changer that never made it into Transformers even appears in one of them.

Pic of the third triple changer:
http://www.toyarchive.com/Diaclone/Triplechanger.html

The movie he was in:
http://nandakorea.sakura.ne.jp/koreanihtml/c_20.html

Sat Feb 03, 2007 11:45 am

You mean these ones? :-?

Sat Feb 03, 2007 11:48 am

1 more.

Sat Feb 03, 2007 12:00 pm

This one has reflector AND the ark.

Looks like reflector is some sorta super weapon in this one.

http://nandakorea.sakura.ne.jp/koreanihtml/d_10.html

Sat Feb 03, 2007 12:06 pm

This one has V'ger, a (very cheesy ) Batman, AND Castle Greyskull! :lol:

http://nandakorea.sakura.ne.jp/koreanihtml/d_18.html

Mon Feb 05, 2007 12:12 pm

What a bunch of perfectly discusting ripoffs! I didn't know there were so many of those. I had counted 6 in the collection last time I searched for that...

Mon Feb 05, 2007 3:15 pm

Thanks. Now I have something to haunt my dreams.

Tue Feb 06, 2007 10:56 pm

EnerJolt wrote:

Thanks. Now I have something to haunt my dreams.

Looks pretty neat to me.

News Credits: 2 · Wed Feb 07, 2007 5:08 am

I think i've seen that DVD somewhere, looks pretty crap.

Huh mind you behind that DVD i found a Transformers Taraka DVD, its has some of the headmasters stuff, but its a horrid english dub (i think, didn't look that hard).

News Credits: 2 · Wed Feb 07, 2007 12:15 pm

Immortal Starscream wrote:ya, i found that at walmart not too long ago. the anime was made in some brittish guys basement, with himself and a couple of buds doing all the voices.

however, it is not an old concept, for many animes were brought overseas, and basicly were remade into new shows, by splicing several diffrent shows together. however, very few put many different toons into one episode or movie.

best example of this is robotech

all 3 series of robotech being completly difrent animes

voltron, was 3 diffrent shows too

battle of the planets, g-force, and eagle riders, 3 diffrent american shows, all one anime series.

and then of course shows like transformers and gobots, were toylines taken, and put to american cartoons.

if ya dont know, the lame gobots come from the cool getter robo.

Acualy the Go-Bots come from Machine-Robo
Tonka licenced MR from Bandai in '82
Tonka thought that The Anime for MR was to violent so they hired Hanna-Barbara to create a Show for children.

Also in defense of the shows (yes I know they do suck) but they were only a dollar & my younger kids love them. In one they have a Gundam/Mazinger that conects to a flying train that has to fight a Red Raydeen. Also all of the villans ships look like the Gundam ships plus the badguys use Zaku Robots as well.
Also don't put Starbirds in that mix although a bad dub it is the Daimos movie. Also same with Space Pirate. some how that company got the rights for both of thoise

Wed Feb 07, 2007 5:11 pm

tmthor wrote:
Immortal Starscream wrote:ya, i found that at walmart not too long ago. the anime was made in some brittish guys basement, with himself and a couple of buds doing all the voices.

however, it is not an old concept, for many animes were brought overseas, and basicly were remade into new shows, by splicing several diffrent shows together. however, very few put many different toons into one episode or movie.

best example of this is robotech

all 3 series of robotech being completly difrent animes

voltron, was 3 diffrent shows too

battle of the planets, g-force, and eagle riders, 3 diffrent american shows, all one anime series.

and then of course shows like transformers and gobots, were toylines taken, and put to american cartoons.

if ya dont know, the lame gobots come from the cool getter robo.

Acualy the Go-Bots come from Machine-Robo
Tonka licenced MR from Bandai in '82
Tonka thought that The Anime for MR was to violent so they hired Hanna-Barbara to create a Show for children.

Also in defense of the shows (yes I know they do suck) but they were only a dollar & my younger kids love them. In one they have a Gundam/Mazinger that conects to a flying train that has to fight a Red Raydeen. Also all of the villans ships look like the Gundam ships plus the badguys use Zaku Robots as well.
Also don't put Starbirds in that mix although a bad dub it is the Daimos movie. Also same with Space Pirate. some how that company got the rights for both of thoise

I surely doubt this was done legally.

News Credits: 2 · Wed Feb 07, 2007 9:25 pm

Sometimes they are Remeber "Clash Of the Bionoids" I heard that was legaL A Horendis dub but still Legal Also the Starbirds Dvd was the same one they used to air on Showtime & HBO in the 80's I beleive some of these are that old The Phoenix may not even be a KO Of TF inferno but of The Diaclone Inferno. I also have seen toys for the Phoenix they are always oversized & always from Korea.

Thu Feb 08, 2007 1:03 am

tmthor wrote:Sometimes they are Remeber "Clash Of the Bionoids" I heard that was legaL A Horendis dub but still Legal Also the Starbirds Dvd was the same one they used to air on Showtime & HBO in the 80's I beleive some of these are that old The Phoenix may not even be a KO Of TF inferno but of The Diaclone Inferno. I also have seen toys for the Phoenix they are always oversized & always from Korea.

I think I still got a copy of Clash of the Bionoids somewhere.

Was confused how that and the macross series worked togather. :???:

Thu Feb 08, 2007 9:36 am

I bought a $1 movie at walmart called Space Transformers, I thought that well it was only a buck and it might be intresting to watch, but it wasn't the dub that was the worst part(It was the worst dub though ever), it was the fact that they kept on using the same animation over and over again. There is a part where a robot smashes into a ship and throws the people into space, but then he does it again, and then a third time and there is only one ship.

News Credits: 2 · Thu Feb 08, 2007 3:26 pm

Emperor Primacron the 1st wrote:
tmthor wrote:Sometimes they are Remeber "Clash Of the Bionoids" I heard that was legaL A Horendis dub but still Legal Also the Starbirds Dvd was the same one they used to air on Showtime & HBO in the 80's I beleive some of these are that old The Phoenix may not even be a KO Of TF inferno but of The Diaclone Inferno. I also have seen toys for the Phoenix they are always oversized & always from Korea.

I think I still got a copy of Clash of the Bionoids somewhere.

Was confused how that and the macross series worked togather.

It was another country's release brought to america I remeber seeing it (owning it as well) BEFORE Robotech hit the airwaves

Thu Feb 08, 2007 5:06 pm

Duke of Luns wrote:
Evank_Horizon wrote:Well... ever noticed the resemblence between our dear Optimus Prime and RX-78 Gundam?

That must be why the american Gundam in G Gundam was a like a football player in red and blue.
A lot of stuff about G

G-Gundam was by far the most racist anime I've seen by far.

News Credits: 3 · Fri Feb 09, 2007 8:01 am

Evank_Horizon wrote:Well... ever noticed the resemblence between our dear Optimus Prime and RX-78 Gundam?

That must be why the american Gundam in G Gundam was a like a football player in red and blue.

Actually...

the RX-78 has the festive Gundam colors, which in itself is in every Gundam series (U.C. Timeline)accept Char's Counterattack, becuase the RX-93 was black, white and yellow.

Also the RX-78 is from thew original Gundam series, Mobile Suit Gundam: 0079...and there is zero resenblence between the RX-78 and Optimus Prime.

Prime's colors are from one of the diaclone Convoy sets.
http://www.toyarchive.com/DiacloneOptimus.html

Mon Feb 12, 2007 1:57 pm

bvzxa wrote:
Evank_Horizon wrote:Well... ever noticed the resemblence between our dear Optimus Prime and RX-78 Gundam?

That must be why the american Gundam in G Gundam was a like a football player in red and blue.

Actually...

the RX-78 has the festive Gundam colors, which in itself is in every Gundam series (U.C. Timeline)accept Char's Counterattack, becuase the RX-93 was black, white and yellow.

Also the RX-78 is from thew original Gundam series, Mobile Suit Gundam: 0079...and there is zero resenblence between the RX-78 and Optimus Prime.

Prime's colors are from one of the diaclone Convoy sets.
http://www.toyarchive.com/DiacloneOptimus.html

The general shape of the head bear strong resemblance IMO. And although the colors of the body are not distributed the same way at all, they's mostly the same. Blue, red, grey, white and yellow.

Anyway if you were to name the G1 transformer that looks the most like a gundam who would it be?

News Credits: 1 · Tue Feb 13, 2007 9:16 am

Evank_Horizon wrote:Anyway if you were to name the G1 transformer that looks the most like a gundam who would it be?

I just have to answer this, cause I've notice a similarity recently(last year) between the Gaplant and Cybertron Starscream. First of all, bear in mind that the colors are completely off, however the overall shape and part of the transformation is similar. Also bear in mind that the mobile suit I compare it too, the Gaplant from Zeta Gundam, was made around 20 years ago:

If you flipped Starscream's fins up behind his head, the similarity would be moreso.

Like I said, it's not exact, but there's more than a passing resemblence. There are probably others, maybe I'll look into some more.

News Credits: 2 · Tue Feb 13, 2007 10:55 am

I have seen many of those but I must get my hands on that batman one
also did you see the one with reflector

Or this one to it looks like the reflector was used alot

Even the thundercats were not imune

& here is the gobot power suits & Raph looks like he went to korea when he needed work

Tue Feb 13, 2007 4:31 pm

Duke of Luns wrote:
Evank_Horizon wrote:Anyway if you were to name the G1 transformer that looks the most like a gundam who would it be?

I just have to answer this, cause I've notice a similarity recently(last year) between the Gaplant and Cybertron Starscream. First of all, bear in mind that the colors are completely off, however the overall shape and part of the transformation is similar. Also bear in mind that the mobile suit I compare it too, the Gaplant from Zeta Gundam, was made around 20 years ago:

If you flipped Starscream's fins up behind his head, the similarity would be moreso.

Like I said, it's not exact, but there's more than a passing resemblence. There are probably others, maybe I'll look into some more.

Ok that's pretty close but it's not actually a gundam.

News Credits: 1 · Tue Feb 13, 2007 11:37 pm

Picky picky ain't ya

. I also forgot that "G1" part, but I'll forget it again, I can't resist:

Night Viper and Cobra Gundam! I don't know why, but I find it funny :lol:

. I'm gonna have to get Night Viper now.

Onto slightly more serious matters, Arcee and the Nobel Gundam(look at the shape of the bodies, and Arcee's helmet isnt' too far removed from Nobel Gundam's):

There might be more. I'm gonna have to really look at my Transformers and think over Gundam designs.