william-james88 wrote:griftimus prime wrote:the beast wars convoys are not optimus prime though.
Optimizzy wrote:but I haven't bought a Fire Convoy or a Big Convoy since I don't consider them versions of Prime.
So I am not sure why you dont consider him Optimus, let me know.
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In the end, this toy makes more sense on this list than on a best Optimus Primal list, basically. What do you guys think?
I don't include Fire Convoy because, to me, the designers were not intending to create a version of Optimus. I mean, I may be mistaken and the intent was that this was the Car Robots version of Battle Convoy. I always thought Car Robots was supposed to exist in G1 and that Fire Convoy was a separate character.
Thus if a separate character, then Fire Convoy has a version in each of the other continuities that also have a Optimus Prime. This means, for me, there is a Fire Convoy for Animated, for Unicron Trilogy, for Prime/Aligned and for Movie.
And while I see your logic for Nemesis Prime, I'd just assume that he took a different form at some point and that he is not connected to Big Convoy.
And with Big Convoy, I always thought that he, (and Lio Convoy) were Optimus Prime until I discovered that they were supposed to be separate characters. I never could understand that considering how they LOOKED so much like OP.
I do think having them both as separate characters was a mistake and that they SHOULD have been Optimus Prime in beast mode. However, because they don't seem to be the same character I have avoided getting them.
I would entertain reasons why I should include them in my Optimus collection though. I like the idea of Big Convoy being a OP from pre-Hearts of Steel. Or really, just some media establishing him as Optimus.
Those are my reasons, but I am certainly open to debate them.
EDIT* Car Robots may not have been supposed to be G1. But was retconned to be so by Takara. So.... I R confused.
I have been into transformers since 1984.
While I love G1 I also love new innovations and takes on the characters.
I prefer official Hasbro releases of stuff for the most part
I'm not a huge fan of Japanese original Transformers media or designs.
It's easier for me to say which are my LEAST favorite toy lines: Beast Machines, Robots in Disguise.
TFCon List: Classics Skywarp, General Optimus, BW Airrazor, Transmetal Tarantulus, Alternity Prime, Fire Convoy