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News Credits: 241 · by **Jelze Bunnycat** » Tue Sep 16, 2014 9:24 am

ScottyP wrote:Mine are "backwards" as well, but can someone fill me in on why it matters on this mold? He's symmetrical either way, all it does is swap which end a peg ends up on in weapon mode.

The feet (small as they are) would be backwards and his hands would be upside-down (the thumb is sculpted on top, not in the middle of the fist, not to mention one arm has a laser cannon).

Plus, S.2 has a really nasty error in its assembly instructions concerning the rods that connect his body to his backpack. The ridge in those rods are supposed to act as stoppers between the backpack and body, but more often than not, unwitting builders follow the instructions and end up with an ill-fitting backpack that will cause all kinds of breakages.

News Credits: 8 · by **Flashwave** » Tue Sep 16, 2014 9:44 am

JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:May I humbly request a close-up of Stylor? Especially the area between the body and his backpack? I'm dreading the misassembly as depicted in the S.2's assembly instructions.

If you mean are his lower legs on backwards, yes. Easy flip though

News Credits: 645 · by **ScottyP** » Tue Sep 16, 2014 9:58 am

JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:
ScottyP wrote:Mine are "backwards" as well, but can someone fill me in on why it matters on this mold? He's symmetrical either way, all it does is swap which end a peg ends up on in weapon mode.

The feet (small as they are) would be backwards and his hands would be upside-down (the thumb is sculpted on top, not in the middle of the fist, not to mention one arm has a laser cannon).

Ah, I see it now. Thanks!

News Credits: 241 · by **Jelze Bunnycat** » Tue Sep 16, 2014 10:19 am

Flashwave wrote:
JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:May I humbly request a close-up of Stylor? Especially the area between the body and his backpack? I'm dreading the misassembly as depicted in the S.2's assembly instructions.

If you mean are his lower legs on backwards, yes. Easy flip though

Nope, I'm talking about this:

JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:Plus, S.2 has a really nasty error in its assembly instructions concerning the rods that connect his body to his backpack. The ridge in those rods are supposed to act as stoppers between the backpack and body, but more often than not, unwitting builders follow the instructions and end up with an ill-fitting backpack that will cause all kinds of breakages.

Simply put: the instructions say:

Body - Wings - Ridge - Backpack

But the intended order is:

Body - Ridge - Wings - Backpack

News Credits: 441 · by **Sabrblade** » Tue Sep 16, 2014 11:28 am

Best I could find of Stylor's back:

News Credits: 241 · by **Jelze Bunnycat** » Tue Sep 16, 2014 11:33 am

Sabrblade wrote:Best I could find of Stylor's back:

The back's correctly assembled! :APPLAUSE:

News Credits: 6188 · by **Va'al** » Tue Sep 16, 2014 4:29 pm

Another day, another TFCC Subscription Service 3.0 reveal with artwork, and this time it's the redeco (and new head) of the Generations Deluxe Bumblebee mold as Carzap. But not just happy with a robot, the Club also includes a human partner in crime, Kre-O Blackrock! Check them out below, and remember to join before October 2nd for yours.

We have gotten a great response to the Transformers Collectors' Club Figure Subscription Service (TFSS) for version 3.0, and now, it’s time for another reveal! Next up, a 90’s unreleased Transformers Generation 2 concept from Japan, now finally realized with the help of Kre-O - Blocktown Carzap w/ GB Blackrock Kreon and Kre-O Battle Station! As a reminder, the order period will be open through 11:59 PM October 2nd.

by **gothsaurus** » Tue Sep 16, 2014 4:44 pm

Have to chime in again about Chromedome. He looks jaw-dropping amazing in person. Way better than I'd hoped... even seeing pics. Huge success for the club, IHMO. 2.0 is wrapping up for a strong finish.

And while I know a number of these 3.0 bots aren't for casual fans, the deep, obscure references and new characters are really exciting for me. Nacelle and CarZap are in my top picks for 2015. Mockup looks good for both.

I'm warming up quickly to Taratulas, too. New deco and claw hand notion are helping.

As for Krok and SerpentOR, they look like they were designed for those molds. Loving getting some transforming Action Masters.

News Credits: 441 · by **Sabrblade** » Tue Sep 16, 2014 5:09 pm

Carzap looks as crazily-decoed as the final days of G2 were, as he should be! :APPLAUSE:

News Credits: 54 · by **Deadput** » Tue Sep 16, 2014 5:22 pm

I only want seekers and Carzap

Wish i could trade with someone i got a G1 Bombshell (a little paint is gone but its in good condition) G1 Eject and a RID Scourge (no sword and the pump tube that makes the trailer missiles fire is broken) which is also in good shape.

And i got Halo 4 dlc codes but i don't know who plays halo here.

News Credits: 1 · by **Gallifreyan Autobot** » Tue Sep 16, 2014 5:34 pm

Sabrblade wrote:Carzap looks as crazily-decoed as the final days of G2 were, as he should be!

"YES"

News Credits: 54 · by **Deadput** » Tue Sep 16, 2014 5:37 pm

Sabrblade wrote:Carzap looks as crazily-decoed as the final days of G2 were, as he should be!

Yes he has a great deco kinda reminds me in way of Aoe Rollbar (the Chevy Sonic in Aoe)

Or maybe its the other way around.

I like white and purple its such a good combination.

News Credits: 115 · by **megatronus** » Tue Sep 16, 2014 6:50 pm

ScottyP wrote:
gothsaurus wrote:Too many different topics in this thread.

But yeah, if anyone has a good way to swap around Stylor's limbs ... please post. I'm afraid to go pulling on things given the price of these things.

There really isn't a good way to take apart and reassemble arms microns. That mold can especially be quite fragile.

Mine are "backwards" as well, but can someone fill me in on why it matters on this mold? He's symmetrical either way, all it does is swap which end a peg ends up on in weapon mode.

Yea, OCD beckons.

I mean, I'm probably just going to live with them backwards - especially the arms. The legs seem more fixable, so we'll see.

My thinking is, if I can get them right safely, why not do it?

News Credits: 293 · by **shajaki** » Tue Sep 16, 2014 7:12 pm

sorry if its already been explained but...

i get that carzap is a cancelled G2 proto. but what was the original mold?

either way im liking it. bought.

News Credits: 441 · by **Sabrblade** » Tue Sep 16, 2014 7:14 pm

shajaki wrote:sorry if its already been explained but...

i get that carzap is a cancelled G2 proto. but what was the original mold?

either way im liking it. bought.

G2 Windbreaker (A.K.A. "Zap" in Europe, and "Carzap" on a Japanese poster)

News Credits: 25 · by **SW's SilverHammer** » Tue Sep 16, 2014 7:18 pm

Sabrblade wrote:
shajaki wrote:sorry if its already been explained but...

i get that carzap is a cancelled G2 proto. but what was the original mold?

either way im liking it. bought.
G2 Windbreaker (A.K.A. "Zap" in Europe, and "Carzap" on a Japanese poster)

News Credits: 115 · by **megatronus** » Tue Sep 16, 2014 9:27 pm

Between Hubcap (IDW 'Bee with Renderform head), Goldfire, and Nightbeat, I really, really like the mold. Carzap looks like another winner here.

Also, originally (IIRC), it seemed like the Carzap mold utilized Nightbeat's head - here it looks like an entirely new head. Is that new?

EDIT: in other news, I fixed Stylor's legs. You get a bit of stress mark once you pull the legs off (make sure you pull straight down), but a little heat (hair dryer) makes it fade fast, and it's covered up regardless by the lower leg pieces themselves.

Conclusion? Win.

News Credits: 441 · by **Sabrblade** » Tue Sep 16, 2014 9:34 pm

megatronus wrote:Also, originally (IIRC), it seemed like the Carzap mold utilized Nightbeat's head - here it looks like an entirely new head. Is that new?

EDIT: in other news, I fixed Stylor's legs. You get a bit of stress mark once you pull the legs off (make sure you pull straight down), but a little heat (hair dryer) makes it fade fast, and it's covered up regardless by the lower leg pieces themselves.

Conclusion? Win.

Yup, new head.

And now you gotta fix the arms. Be very careful when yanking those off the shoulders.

News Credits: 115 · by **megatronus** » Tue Sep 16, 2014 9:59 pm

Sabrblade wrote:
megatronus wrote:Also, originally (IIRC), it seemed like the Carzap mold utilized Nightbeat's head - here it looks like an entirely new head. Is that new?

EDIT: in other news, I fixed Stylor's legs. You get a bit of stress mark once you pull the legs off (make sure you pull straight down), but a little heat (hair dryer) makes it fade fast, and it's covered up regardless by the lower leg pieces themselves.

Conclusion? Win.
Yup, new head.

And now you gotta fix the arms. Be very careful when yanking those off the shoulders.

I'm gonna leave the arms for now - they are much less noticeable than the legs, so I'm fairly content at the moment.

News Credits: 322 · by **chuckdawg1999** » Wed Sep 17, 2014 12:43 am

ScottyP wrote:
chuckdawg1999 wrote:If it makes any of you feel better about missing out I read on twitter a scalper bought up a ton of stuff.

While I'm sure some folks got in on these just to resell at a premium, 1) I ain't mad and 2) You'd have to be an insanely quick handed and well prepared scalper to have gotten in on a "ton" of that stuff since they were limited to one per membership. I think of the dozen or so Megs/Wasp sets, you can go count up posts here and elsewhere and account for half of them. Same goes for much of the 08 stuff.

So yeah, if someone ends up with a big haul of multiple super valuable things, good for them, but it'd have taken a small miracle to pull that off and the timing window was just too small for me to buy into some theory of Grubby McNeckbeard Scalpsmith IV keeping anyone else from having a shot at stuff. These were high demand items and pretty much everyone got the club's email/tweet at the same time. You can buy stuff on phones these days pretty quick, it makes total sense that everything they had worth jumping on would be jumped on quickly.

Dude, you'd be amazed at what people can do on the internet. I have some sites I can show you...

News Credits: 441 · by **Sabrblade** » Wed Sep 17, 2014 6:21 am

Of the remaining items for sale in the Archive Sale, I decided to go with Razorclaw/Elita-1, Dion, and G2 Ramjet.

News Credits: 645 · by **ScottyP** » Wed Sep 17, 2014 8:35 am

SW's SilverHammer wrote:
Sabrblade wrote:
shajaki wrote:sorry if its already been explained but...

i get that carzap is a cancelled G2 proto. but what was the original mold?

either way im liking it. bought.
G2 Windbreaker (A.K.A. "Zap" in Europe, and "Carzap" on a Japanese poster)

Carzap is one of those cases where I feel hypocritical. If they released this, the original G2 mold, just like this, I'd think it was an amazing release and it'd be one of the tops in the FSS for me. But as it is? Total yawn and I just don't care. Is that weird?

News Credits: 115 · by **megatronus** » Wed Sep 17, 2014 8:45 am

ScottyP wrote:
SW's SilverHammer wrote:
Sabrblade wrote:
shajaki wrote:sorry if its already been explained but...

i get that carzap is a cancelled G2 proto. but what was the original mold?

either way im liking it. bought.
G2 Windbreaker (A.K.A. "Zap" in Europe, and "Carzap" on a Japanese poster)

Carzap is one of those cases where I feel hypocritical. If they released this, the original G2 mold, just like this, I'd think it was an amazing release and it'd be one of the tops in the FSS for me. But as it is? Total yawn and I just don't care. Is that weird?

It's one thing to homage an official release, it's quite another to homage a non-release or cancelled product. They're similar, but the vibe is definitely different, so your ambivalence is understandable.

News Credits: 645 · by **ScottyP** » Wed Sep 17, 2014 9:01 am

megatronus wrote:It's one thing to homage an official release, it's quite another to homage a non-release or cancelled product.

That's a good way to put it. I feel the same way about Nacelle. Use the encore G1 seeker mold and make it look like that catalog image, and that's a freakin' huge win. As it is, it feels like a weird addition to a Classics shelf when there was never any original version of it to begin with.

News Credits: 441 · by **Sabrblade** » Wed Sep 17, 2014 10:20 am

ScottyP wrote:
megatronus wrote:It's one thing to homage an official release, it's quite another to homage a non-release or cancelled product.

That's a good way to put it. I feel the same way about Nacelle. Use the encore G1 seeker mold and make it look like that catalog image, and that's a freakin' huge win. As it is, it feels like a weird addition to a Classics shelf when there was never any original version of it to begin with.

The way the Club seems to be approaching this toy is as its own character separate from Windbreaker rather than as a new version of Windbreaker. So it can go on a Classics shelf as Block Town Carzap rather than as G2 Windbreaker.

Alternatively, with the Club's products being so fiction-oriented, this is technically meant to be a Wings Universe toy rather than a Classics toy, as the Classicsverse and the Wingsverse are separate places, but I think the first point I made might be more compelling/appealing than this one. :oops: