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william-james88 wrote:

Cyber Bishop wrote:

-Kanrabat- wrote:"Scalping" is a term only valid for things that just came out or are technically available on store shelves. Worst victims are badly distributed exclusives of desirable characters. But pass a certain timeframe, it just become the secondary market.

uh.. nope

Scalping is the term used to describe someone who buys something in low supply and resells it for a higher price to make profit.

https://4chantoy.fandom.com/wiki/Toy_Scalping

I dont give two shits if it is off 4 chan as it is an accurate description. If you buy something with the intent to sell at a higher price you are a scalper dick-bag. I opened ebay before Cosmos became available on pulse and searched for him, got a couple hits then watched pulse again, as soon as it became available and sold out I went back to ebay, lo and behold there suddenly popped up TONS of pre-orders for prices WAY higher than pulse was selling for. scalpers.

https://abc7news.com/holiday-shopping-p ... s/7582929/

Scalping is anyone that buys something at retail hot or not to make a profit off of it period.

Sure. But Scalping is not selling a 3 year old toy, that is no longer being distributed, on eBay at secondary market price. Which is what Rodimus Ukraine was referencing.

I 100% agree with your definition though as it would give further credence that anyone who calls out scalping on Haslab projects would be wrong in doing so. Since the supply if those toys was literally the demand of the time.

Maybe I explained myself badly but that's what I meant. If you remove the CURRENT toy from the market just to flip it right now, that's textbook scalping. But if you sell the thing in like, more than a year, way long after the thing is gone forever and can't be obtained by any means, that can't be considered "scalping" anymore.

Because if not, then all those people selling authentic sealed G1 toys are "scalpers". And everyone selling their old stuff are too if the things are new.

-Kanrabat- wrote:

william-james88 wrote:

Cyber Bishop wrote:

-Kanrabat- wrote:"Scalping" is a term only valid for things that just came out or are technically available on store shelves. Worst victims are badly distributed exclusives of desirable characters. But pass a certain timeframe, it just become the secondary market.

uh.. nope

Scalping is the term used to describe someone who buys something in low supply and resells it for a higher price to make profit.

https://4chantoy.fandom.com/wiki/Toy_Scalping

I dont give two shits if it is off 4 chan as it is an accurate description. If you buy something with the intent to sell at a higher price you are a scalper dick-bag. I opened ebay before Cosmos became available on pulse and searched for him, got a couple hits then watched pulse again, as soon as it became available and sold out I went back to ebay, lo and behold there suddenly popped up TONS of pre-orders for prices WAY higher than pulse was selling for. scalpers.

https://abc7news.com/holiday-shopping-p ... s/7582929/

Scalping is anyone that buys something at retail hot or not to make a profit off of it period.

Sure. But Scalping is not selling a 3 year old toy, that is no longer being distributed, on eBay at secondary market price. Which is what Rodimus Ukraine was referencing.

I 100% agree with your definition though as it would give further credence that anyone who calls out scalping on Haslab projects would be wrong in doing so. Since the supply if those toys was literally the demand of the time.

Maybe I explained myself badly but that's what I meant. If you remove the CURRENT toy from the market just to flip it right now, that's textbook scalping. But if you sell the thing in like, more than a year, way long after the thing is gone forever and can't be obtained by any means, that can't be considered "scalping" anymore.

Because if not, then all those people selling authentic sealed G1 toys are "scalpers". And everyone selling their old stuff are too if the things are new.

Overpriced is overpriced, but maybe g1/beast wars is an exception. That's why knocks offs exist

RodimusPrimeUkraine1 wrote:Overpriced is overpriced, but maybe g1/beast wars is an exception. That's why knocks offs exist

Correction. "Overpriced" is relative to what YOU are willing to pay. Perfect example, a normal toy at normal retail can still be "overpriced" if it's something you have no interests in. However, a Grail you were looking for pop in on eBay at "only" 400% of the original retail price and you'll jump on it.

That weirdness is a hidden rule any collectors unwillingly follow.
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On the K.O side-note, I really want a G1 Gnaw but I want the ORIGINAL one. I could pay the 130$+ the sellers ask for but the market is overflowing with K.Os. So I fear to be screwed over. The Gnaw K.O is of horrible quality and it's still 50$US shipped. I handled one at my local geek store and I had to tell the bad news to the store owner. 50$US for that K.O is grossly overpriced I.M.O.

"Optimus, help! My LEGS are fused together!"

DeathReviews wrote:"Optimus, help! My LEGS are fused together!"

Just like 85% of the original Generation 1 toys of the 1980s that people love so much.

Sabrblade wrote:

DeathReviews wrote:"Optimus, help! My LEGS are fused together!"

Just like 85% of the original Generation 1 toys of the 1980s that people love so much.

I think I should write an article:

"would you hate the G1 line if it was released today?"

Also, Academy of Dr.X, "overpriced" can only be applied as a comparative assessment. I pay $50-$1000 for comics that were jut 10 cents once. But compared to the current market, I bought them at a pretty good price. There are vintage comics where the seller is asking for much higher than the current market and those are overpriced.

chuckdawg1999 wrote:These look fantastic. I've always felt that the real ingenuity can be found in the kid-friendly lines.

I remember when RID and Combiner Wars were coming out at the same time and while the combiner wars toys were nice, they transformations were all basically the same. Some fans turned their attention to the RID decepticons for a breath of fresh air in terms of design and transformations. I was one of them, it was a great time.

DeathReviews wrote:"Optimus, help! My LEGS are fused together!"

Hopefully he doesn't have a slot in his but like the unfortunate human behind him.

RodimusPrimeUkraine1 wrote:

DeathReviews wrote:"Optimus, help! My LEGS are fused together!"

Hopefully he doesn't have a slot in his but like the unfortunate human behind him.

The slot is in the lower back to attachment a piece making her have wings

william-james88 wrote:

RodimusPrimeUkraine1 wrote:

DeathReviews wrote:"Optimus, help! My LEGS are fused together!"

Hopefully he doesn't have a slot in his but like the unfortunate human behind him.

The slot is in the lower back to attachment a piece making her have wings

I know but it looks ugly and is a dumb gimmick anyway. I'm sure bumblebee wouldn't sacrifice his spoiler for some random girl to use as a jet pack....

RodimusPrimeUkraine1 wrote:

william-james88 wrote:

RodimusPrimeUkraine1 wrote:

DeathReviews wrote:"Optimus, help! My LEGS are fused together!"

Hopefully he doesn't have a slot in his but like the unfortunate human behind him.

The slot is in the lower back to attachment a piece making her have wings

I know but it looks ugly and is a dumb gimmick anyway. I'm sure bumblebee wouldn't sacrifice his spoiler for some random girl to use as a jet pack....

Stop it with your garbage negativity. Let the kids who this is made for decide if they like it or not.

william-james88 wrote:

RodimusPrimeUkraine1 wrote:

william-james88 wrote:

RodimusPrimeUkraine1 wrote:

DeathReviews wrote:"Optimus, help! My LEGS are fused together!"

Hopefully he doesn't have a slot in his but like the unfortunate human behind him.

The slot is in the lower back to attachment a piece making her have wings

I know but it looks ugly and is a dumb gimmick anyway. I'm sure bumblebee wouldn't sacrifice his spoiler for some random girl to use as a jet pack....

Stop it with your garbage negativity. Let the kids who this is made for decide if they like it or not.

I know how a kid would probably think. I once was one myself. Still though- GIVE KIDS SOMETHING COOL PEOPLE! IT'S NOT THAT HARD! Like how old do you actually think I am....

RodimusPrimeUkraine1 wrote:[Like how old do you actually think I am....

I'd like to say 40-ish but given your petulant outbursts and victim crying I'd call you a Zoomer.
(Posted like the grumpy old Gen X'er that I am. Damn kids always making me grumpy with their fancy ball joints and ratchets)

RodimusPrimeUkraine1 wrote:I know but it looks ugly and is a dumb gimmick anyway. I'm sure bumblebee wouldn't sacrifice his spoiler for some random girl to use as a jet pack....

Oh, so you've seen the show and know this is only something that happens with the toy, huh?

Emerje

Burn wrote:

RodimusPrimeUkraine1 wrote:[Like how old do you actually think I am....

I'd like to say 40-ish but given your petulant outbursts and victim crying I'd call you a Zoomer.
(Posted like the grumpy old Gen X'er that I am. Damn kids always making me grumpy with their fancy ball joints and ratchets)

Oh wow LOL! Not even close! Whatever though, you DONT want to know..

Emerje wrote:

RodimusPrimeUkraine1 wrote:I know but it looks ugly and is a dumb gimmick anyway. I'm sure bumblebee wouldn't sacrifice his spoiler for some random girl to use as a jet pack....

Oh, so you've seen the show and know this is only something that happens with the toy, huh?

Emerje

I haven't seen the show...
But either way

Enough, let's go back to talking about the toys. Which intrigue you? I'm really into that Twitch figure.
While Megs has a cool design, I am dissapointed by the fake kibble chest and how the rotors can't point up in alt mode.

william-james88 wrote:Enough, let's go back to talking about the toys. Which intrigue you? I'm really into that Twitch figure.
While Megs has a cool design, I am dissapointed by the fake kibble chest and how the rotors can't point up in alt mode.

Same. If I buy one figure to test the line it'd probably be megatron, or twitch if she gets good reviews.

william-james88 wrote:Which intrigue you?

From a brief cursory glance at the pics I'm down for Megatron. I wouldn't be surprised if down the track and if the show proves to be successful that we get more "older age appropriate" figures which address your fake chest and rotor concerns.

I'm actually surprised they didn't make any toy of the kids' robo-gauntlets; that looks like prime roleplay material.

MaximalNui wrote:I'm actually surprised they didn't make any toy of the kids' robo-gauntlets; that looks like prime roleplay material.

Give it time.

-Kanrabat- wrote:

MaximalNui wrote:I'm actually surprised they didn't make any toy of the kids' robo-gauntlets; that looks like prime roleplay material.

Give it time.

I'm sure they are easy to make with regular gloves

Hasbro is getting ready to launch their new Transformers mainline, Earthspark. This will be the line taking up the majority of the shelfspace for the next few years, as Cyberverse did, to provide kids and parents with Transformers toys all year round for whatever occasion. As with Cyberverse and recent movie lines, the emphasis will be on simple toys and gimmicks, since those have sold well in the past (and in fact, have sold well with kids since G1) but there will be deluxe figures from the get go which aim to provide similar entertainment and complexity as deluxes in other lines. While the toyline debuted at SDCC, it is at the Sydney Oz Comic-Con that Hasbro is showing the final toys in their packaging. We see deluxe Megatron, Twitch and Bumblebee plus Warrior Optimus and Elita-1, along with other toys. It is also revealed that the Mandroid build -a-figure will be made up of 7 toys which will come in different waves. There will be more reveals as the week-end goes on with coverage from Griffin from Ozformers. He wrote the blurb below informing Australian fans of the event:

Transformers Earthspark toys to be revealed in packaging and reviewed at Sydney Oz Comic-Con - Saturday September 24th.
It is at the Dome at the Sydney Showgrounds, Olympic Park, with a Transformers Booth promoting Earthspark, and some other licensed items... so I hope to see a fair few Australian Transformers fans there over the two days.

The booth is at A121, which is right near the entrance... and at 10am in the morning in the "Halloween Ends Theatre", there will be a live reveal of the Earthspark toys IN PACKAGING for the first time in the world.

Since I will be one of two fans helping out Hasbro at the convention, I have already been shown the packaging and toys, and have been given permission to review and post up images after the convention - but Hasbro will be having a professional filming at the convention and the presentation, so you should see something on their official Socials at some point too.

That Megatron looks amazing! As a great successor to Animated Megatron. I'm looking forward getting him.

Oh my god this makes me so upset, I went to Brisbane Oz Comic-Con last weekend and the TFCC never showed up there, and if they had of I would of been able to see these in person -_- Uuuuuugh

Tracytron54321 wrote:Oh my god this makes me so upset, I went to Brisbane Oz Comic-Con last weekend and the TFCC never showed up there, and if they had of I would of been able to see these in person -_- Uuuuuugh

The TFCC hasn't existed in six years.