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[Hellscream9999]

Not to mention the Seekers are important enough to warrant their own mold. This is typical Hasbro pissing on the fans to earn a cheap buck.

Pissing on the fans? They went out of their way to re-sculpt the mold to create the seekers so fans and parents of younger children would have something cool to buy. Is it a marekting ploy? Of course, but so is literally everything they do. That's what makes them a business. As has been pointed out, right now the voyager and deluxe classes are being used to forward the gimmicks, so new Seekers would have to be either Legends or Leader sized, and we wound up with both. It's not a 100% original mold, but it's not a shameless straight redeco of Jetfire either. They redesigned it to capitalize on the mold the mold they paid for and they're getting their money's worth. They have to balance the interests of the fans with their own corporate interests, and I think the leader seeker mold is a good middle ground. It pleases enough people to be worthwhile and we'll get better seekers eventually.

Something I would like to add to this, it seems that for once Hasbro answered some people's wishes for repaints. I know Burn had indicated that when he recieved Jetfire, he wished the mold be used for seekers, and he got his wish. And when Thundercacker first appeared, people said they sure hoped they would get all three seekers from Hasbro, well here ou go! I personally do not care for retools like this (as I detailed in that very long post) but I do constantly see people asking for repaints and retools. Even now with combiner wars when you would think it's enough, I see people saying it would be great to have the stunticon team repainted like cybertronian dinobots (which is a terrible idea because a) more repaints and b) the dinobots only started existing on earth). Or, a better example, seeing people ask for Hotspot repainted as RID 2001 Prime and all sorts of stuff like that. Well, for once, with combiner wars including these leaders, Hasbro went all out with repaints, giving you everything you might have wanted. And it doesnt hurt anyone, it just gives more product on the shelf and more chances for younger fans to get to know classic characters without breaking the bank (shelf presence is really important for brand sustenance). However, this does show that people should be very conscious of what it is they ask for. These seekers are a result of using a mold for characters it was not originally made for (unlike the Asrotrain we are sure to see from Sentinel Prime), so I hope people remember this well the next time they see a mold that has an inkling of a similar alt mode to a character they like and demande a repaint/retool. Because you couls get exactly what you asked for, and wont be happy. We fans are sometimes out worst enemies.

Though, depending on when in the design cycle these were decided upon, these may simply be a byproduct of there not being any other famous fliers - or at least any that looked close enough to jetfire to merit use.

[Sabrblade]

b) the dinobots only started existing on earth).

Not in every case.

(unlike the Asrotrain we are sure to see from Sentinel Prime),

Nevermind Astrotrain, I want Skyquake w/ Scrash! Or Spacewarp w/ Foldspace!

Both would even work as straight redecos!

[william-james88]

b) the dinobots only started existing on earth).

Not in every case.

I was referring to the more popular interpretations.

(unlike the Asrotrain we are sure to see from Sentinel Prime),

Nevermind Astrotrain, I want Skyquake w/ Scrash! Or Spacewarp w/ Foldspace!

Both would even work as straight redecos!

Oh NO! You are one of them !

Also, when was skyquake a train?

[King Kuuga]

Even now with combiner wars when you would think it's enough, I see people saying it would be great to have the stunticon team repainted like cybertronian dinobots (which is a terrible idea because a) more repaints and b) the dinobots only started existing on earth).

That depends on which version of the fiction you follow. Sure, in the cartoon they were created on earth, but in most other G1 timelines they existed on Cybertron.

[Sabrblade]

b) the dinobots only started existing on earth).

Not in every case.

I was referring to the more popular interpretations.

Dreamwave's The War Within was popular back in its day.


As was (and still is) Fall of Cybertron.

Also, when was skyquake a train?

When this digibash proved how awesome the idea is regardless:

[william-james88]

As was (and still is) Fall of Cybertron.

But those are still donosaur modes, the main argument was that repaints of current cw molds could work, thats how we got here.

[Sabrblade]

But those are still donosaur modes, the main argument was that repaints of current cw molds could work, thats how we got here.

Fine. Here's the Lightning Strike Coalition Force in their pre-dino altmodes:



And here's the WFC DS versions of just Grimlock and Swoop (as they were the only two in the DS game):





Oh, and I forgot that the very popular Marvel UK gave us a look at G1 Swoop's Cybertronian altmode, back when he was Divebomb of the Elite Flying Corps:

[sol magnus]

Because I'm a total Ultra Magnus junkie (and More than Meets the Eye as well), I ponied up for a CW Magnus. Haven't released him from his shell yet, though.

[william-james88]

Because I'm a total Ultra Magnus junkie (and More than Meets the Eye as well), I ponied up for a CW Magnus. Haven't released him from his shell yet, though.

Let us know what you think of him once you take him out!

[D-Maximal_Primal]

Because I'm a total Ultra Magnus junkie (and More than Meets the Eye as well), I ponied up for a CW Magnus. Haven't released him from his shell yet, though.

Get the big guy outta there! Unless you're screamer with his bad luck, you shall not be disappointed. This coming from a fellow MTMTE junkie too

[Hellscream9999]

Because I'm a total Ultra Magnus junkie (and More than Meets the Eye as well), I ponied up for a CW Magnus. Haven't released him from his shell yet, though.

Get the big guy outta there! Unless you're screamer with his bad luck, you shall not be disappointed. This coming from a fellow MTMTE junkie too

[D-Maximal_Primal]

Because I'm a total Ultra Magnus junkie (and More than Meets the Eye as well), I ponied up for a CW Magnus. Haven't released him from his shell yet, though.

Get the big guy outta there! Unless you're screamer with his bad luck, you shall not be disappointed. This coming from a fellow MTMTE junkie too

Let's face it man, Magnus does not like you. It's like the toy looks at you and says: "oh look it's him! Let me conveniently break somehow just to cause him strife!" Either that or somehow Magnus senses you are simply going to turn him into scrap with your Megatronus figure and he wants out

[Hellscream9999]

Because I'm a total Ultra Magnus junkie (and More than Meets the Eye as well), I ponied up for a CW Magnus. Haven't released him from his shell yet, though.

Get the big guy outta there! Unless you're screamer with his bad luck, you shall not be disappointed. This coming from a fellow MTMTE junkie too

Let's face it man, Magnus does not like you. It's like the toy looks at you and says: "oh look it's him! Let me conveniently break somehow just to cause him strife!" Either that or somehow Magnus senses you are simply going to turn him into scrap with your Megatronus figure and he wants out

Aww man, I actually really like him, he looks really great, and I wanted to love him, but now... I kinda just resent hasblow for ditching their quality for increased profit margins

[D-Maximal_Primal]

Because I'm a total Ultra Magnus junkie (and More than Meets the Eye as well), I ponied up for a CW Magnus. Haven't released him from his shell yet, though.

Get the big guy outta there! Unless you're screamer with his bad luck, you shall not be disappointed. This coming from a fellow MTMTE junkie too

Let's face it man, Magnus does not like you. It's like the toy looks at you and says: "oh look it's him! Let me conveniently break somehow just to cause him strife!" Either that or somehow Magnus senses you are simply going to turn him into scrap with your Megatronus figure and he wants out

Aww man, I actually really like him, he looks really great, and I wanted to love him, but now... I kinda just resent hasblow for ditching their quality for increased profit margins

as much as he appreciates you blaming hasbro for your woes, lets face it: Magnus just does't appreciate you. Must be the flames. I hear flames aren't his friend

[Hellscream9999]

Because I'm a total Ultra Magnus junkie (and More than Meets the Eye as well), I ponied up for a CW Magnus. Haven't released him from his shell yet, though.

Get the big guy outta there! Unless you're screamer with his bad luck, you shall not be disappointed. This coming from a fellow MTMTE junkie too

Let's face it man, Magnus does not like you. It's like the toy looks at you and says: "oh look it's him! Let me conveniently break somehow just to cause him strife!" Either that or somehow Magnus senses you are simply going to turn him into scrap with your Megatronus figure and he wants out

Aww man, I actually really like him, he looks really great, and I wanted to love him, but now... I kinda just resent hasblow for ditching their quality for increased profit margins

as much as he appreciates you blaming hasbro for your woes, lets face it: Magnus just does't appreciate you. Must be the flames. I hear flames aren't his friend

Apparently, it seems legit

[D-Maximal_Primal]

Because I'm a total Ultra Magnus junkie (and More than Meets the Eye as well), I ponied up for a CW Magnus. Haven't released him from his shell yet, though.

Get the big guy outta there! Unless you're screamer with his bad luck, you shall not be disappointed. This coming from a fellow MTMTE junkie too

Let's face it man, Magnus does not like you. It's like the toy looks at you and says: "oh look it's him! Let me conveniently break somehow just to cause him strife!" Either that or somehow Magnus senses you are simply going to turn him into scrap with your Megatronus figure and he wants out

Aww man, I actually really like him, he looks really great, and I wanted to love him, but now... I kinda just resent hasblow for ditching their quality for increased profit margins

as much as he appreciates you blaming hasbro for your woes, lets face it: Magnus just does't appreciate you. Must be the flames. I hear flames aren't his friend

Apparently, it seems legit

Let's face it: Predaking didn't help that fire thing did he?

[Hellscream9999]

Because I'm a total Ultra Magnus junkie (and More than Meets the Eye as well), I ponied up for a CW Magnus. Haven't released him from his shell yet, though.

Get the big guy outta there! Unless you're screamer with his bad luck, you shall not be disappointed. This coming from a fellow MTMTE junkie too

Let's face it man, Magnus does not like you. It's like the toy looks at you and says: "oh look it's him! Let me conveniently break somehow just to cause him strife!" Either that or somehow Magnus senses you are simply going to turn him into scrap with your Megatronus figure and he wants out

Aww man, I actually really like him, he looks really great, and I wanted to love him, but now... I kinda just resent hasblow for ditching their quality for increased profit margins

as much as he appreciates you blaming hasbro for your woes, lets face it: Magnus just does't appreciate you. Must be the flames. I hear flames aren't his friend

Apparently, it seems legit

Let's face it: Predaking didn't help that fire thing did he?

Not gonna lie, I don't get that reference

[D-Maximal_Primal]

Because I'm a total Ultra Magnus junkie (and More than Meets the Eye as well), I ponied up for a CW Magnus. Haven't released him from his shell yet, though.

Get the big guy outta there! Unless you're screamer with his bad luck, you shall not be disappointed. This coming from a fellow MTMTE junkie too

Let's face it man, Magnus does not like you. It's like the toy looks at you and says: "oh look it's him! Let me conveniently break somehow just to cause him strife!" Either that or somehow Magnus senses you are simply going to turn him into scrap with your Megatronus figure and he wants out

Aww man, I actually really like him, he looks really great, and I wanted to love him, but now... I kinda just resent hasblow for ditching their quality for increased profit margins

as much as he appreciates you blaming hasbro for your woes, lets face it: Magnus just does't appreciate you. Must be the flames. I hear flames aren't his friend

Apparently, it seems legit

Let's face it: Predaking didn't help that fire thing did he?

Not gonna lie, I don't get that reference

Predaking from Prime. Fire breath. He beat the living bejezzles out of Magnus. (though he never really did set him on fire), that's where that comes from

[Hellscream9999]

Because I'm a total Ultra Magnus junkie (and More than Meets the Eye as well), I ponied up for a CW Magnus. Haven't released him from his shell yet, though.

Get the big guy outta there! Unless you're screamer with his bad luck, you shall not be disappointed. This coming from a fellow MTMTE junkie too

Let's face it man, Magnus does not like you. It's like the toy looks at you and says: "oh look it's him! Let me conveniently break somehow just to cause him strife!" Either that or somehow Magnus senses you are simply going to turn him into scrap with your Megatronus figure and he wants out

Aww man, I actually really like him, he looks really great, and I wanted to love him, but now... I kinda just resent hasblow for ditching their quality for increased profit margins

as much as he appreciates you blaming hasbro for your woes, lets face it: Magnus just does't appreciate you. Must be the flames. I hear flames aren't his friend

Apparently, it seems legit

Let's face it: Predaking didn't help that fire thing did he?

Not gonna lie, I don't get that reference

Predaking from Prime. Fire breath. He beat the living bejezzles out of Magnus. (though he never really did set him on fire), that's where that comes from

Ah! Right, that was one of it's best fights, thought you might've been referencing something from the comics - that I don't keep up with.

[D-Maximal_Primal]

Predaking from Prime. Fire breath. He beat the living bejezzles out of Magnus. (though he never really did set him on fire), that's where that comes from

Ah! Right, that was one of it's best fights, thought you might've been referencing something from the comics - that I don't keep up with.

Yeah, not that time man. Predaking doesn't even exist in the comics yet!

[Burn]

I swear, you two need a room!

[Hellscream9999]

I swear, you two need a room!

What can I say, we keep the threads alive'n'thrivin'

[D-Maximal_Primal]

I swear, you two need a room!

What can I say, we keep the threads alive'n'thrivin'

Life is never boring with us around

[Hellscream9999]

I swear, you two need a room!

What can I say, we keep the threads alive'n'thrivin'

Life is never boring with us around

Indeed, maybe you should join in with us Burn, we could wander aimlessly around the threads having random conversations all over the place; It'd be like The Hangover, except with fewer tigers...

[D-Maximal_Primal]

I swear, you two need a room!

What can I say, we keep the threads alive'n'thrivin'

Life is never boring with us around

Indeed, maybe you should join in with us Burn, we could wander aimlessly around the threads having random conversations all over the place; It'd be like The Hangover, except with fewer tigers...

Fewer tigers and more leader class transformers! (see what I did there?)

I have decided against TC for now. Maybe I'll get the guy later, but I'm not sure. Just gonna have to wait it out some. Very undecided over the whole seekers thing still, despite how sure of it I have been at points