Indeed. Further evidence that this movie was made as an afterthought.Fires_Of_Inferno wrote:However, there was no closure to anything, everything was just left as unresolved as the series did, if not more so.
Probably a request by Hasbro in an attempt to tie it in with the Target exclusive line of the same name.Fires_Of_Inferno wrote:Why in the hell was it called "Predacons Rising" when the Predacons barely did anything in it?
Interestingly enough, back before the movie aired, TVGuide.com had the movie listed as three split episodes titled "Chaos Rising - Part 1", "Part 2", and "Part 3". A much more appropriate name, IMO.Fires_Of_Inferno wrote:Why not call it "Unicron Rising" instead?
Technically, that wouldn't be so unfitting since there was indeed a greater emphasis on the Terrorcons in that mini-series than of the Predacons in this movie. But, I do see your point.Fires_Of_Inferno wrote:Yeah I know there were dead Predacons walking around, but it wasn't even about them either, it would be like if the Darkness Rising episodes were called Terrorcons Rising instead.
Based on both this and other parts in this movie, as well as parts in the "One Shall Rise" season 1 finale, I've theorized that this is a very green, overconfident Unicron who hasn't had much experience in accomplishing anything outside of his battling Primus and the Thirteen, the season 1 finale, and this movie. Unlike past portrayals of Unicron, he's still inexperienced and uncalculating, having spent most of his life sound asleep and unaware of how to properly handle things. Like how Animated gave us a noobish Optimus Prime, this series gave us a noobish Unicron, and I mean that with no disrespect to either character.Fires_Of_Inferno wrote:Speaking of Predacons walking...
Why in the hell were all the Predacon corpses *WALKING* to Cybertron's conveniently placed hole when they could effing FLY? Unicron didn't even fly to the hole, he rode on one of the dead pred's back! He can fly faster than light, why would he choose to travel at half the speed of smell? Does he even need to be there with the Preda-Deadites army? Couldn't he just FLY down to the core of Cybertron by himself and rip it open? Waiting billions of years for this moment, rides in sllooooowwwwwwwly on zombie back.
My guess is that they might have wanted to kill off Shockwave in that scene, but Hasbro vetoed it.Fires_Of_Inferno wrote:Why didn't they kill Shockwave? I mean, I'm glad they didn't, I like Shockwave, but there's no reason and no way he could have survived being ganged up on by that many zombies with only a few smudges to show for it. Yeah he's a badass, but enough of these things could overwhelm Optimus. He should be dead for sticking around like a dumbass to watch the terrorcons advance on him. Why did he back away so slowly anyway? He goes much faster than that, does his reverse function not work properly?
Another guess: Perhaps they felt that Soundwave was too flawless a character that bringing him back might have made things seem less intense for our heroes. That is, if they weren't gonna kill him off too.Fires_Of_Inferno wrote:Why wasn't the other wave there? Soundwave could easily get out of the shadow zone. If a cell phone signal can make it through (garbled, but still), then I'm sure Soundwave could easily access the warship's space bridge control and get himself out of there.
Maybe still on the moon.Fires_Of_Inferno wrote:I can continue going on and on about the characters. What happened to Airachnid?
To give more focus to the non-major players. Take out the leader characters to give Bee some attention.Fires_Of_Inferno wrote:What was the point of taking Ultra Magnus out of the picture?
Back on Earth with Unit:E, I guess.Fires_Of_Inferno wrote:Where in the eff was the Apex Armor?
It might have been easier for the doctor to come to the patient, and Cybertron might have better medical resources for Cybertronians than Earth does.Fires_Of_Inferno wrote:Why bring Ratchet to Cybertron and not just send Ultra Magnus to Earth?
A lot of good those useless guys would have done.Fires_Of_Inferno wrote:Did they kill ALL of the Vehicons?
I wrote these thought back when I first finished watching the film:Fires_Of_Inferno wrote:I also drew issue with the feel of the movie, in as much as I feel confused about it. I mean, I watch the 1986 movie and I get the sense of nostalgia, I watch the 2007 movie and I get a sense of awe (yes, despite it's many flaws, I have to say I enjoyed the 2007 Transformers movie), I watch this and I feel nothing. No joy in watching the fights, no satisfaction in seeing (or in this case, not seeing) the fate of Starscream, and I feel lots of confusion when I think back about watching it. I liked the characters, but the movie just didn't grab me, it felt unfinished, and it felt like they were doing way too much at one time, and then slapped some generic name on it. I guess it's hard to put to words really.
I guess I hated it? I dunno, some one tell me what you thought, quick.
That was very cool. A lot happened in this movie, and it all felt pretty good. Except for one little thing: The title. This movie was less "Predacons Rising" and more "Unicron Rising (plus a couple of Preds)". It really shows how much the Preds felt forced in to a story that otherwise did not need them. Darksteel and Skylynx were generic brutes who served as mostly background extras who only existed to breath fire and do tough stuff. The Terrorcon Predacon army could have easily been replaced by ordinary Terrorcons with little alteration to the story. Unicron stole this movie, but at least his awakening here, due to Primus's reactivation, made a lot more sense than some random, poorly-written planetary alignment. Bumblebee also stole this movie, being practically the star of it on the Autobots' side and taking center stage in a role of command. Will Friedle can really carry his own weight, and it shows. It was also interesting to see this being entirely Cybertron-centric, with no bits on Earth outside of a few quick shots, and no human characters at all. But, I still feel Optimus's finding the AllSpark was handled a little too easily, with it being found as though it were hardly a challenge to find it. Really, Optimus really couldn't have done this already back when he had the Ark all those years ago? I mean, he had the Matrix back then, which is all that he indicates as necessary to find it now, so what was the problem back then? And then there's Megatron, who's now no longer a warmongering tyrant. Will his change of heart be reflected in future fiction? Or will Hasbro force some way to throw him back into the ways of villainy? And what of Starscream? Did the Preds kill him? Did they not?
And what of the Dinobots? Or Rescue Force Sigma-17? While I don't expect the latter to get any resolution anytime soon, the former has their own comic storyline going on, so hopefully their fate is given in there. Same with Airachnid, who's another open book.
And Soundwave. Holy smoke, Soundwave was completely missing from this movie!
Though, as fun as it was, I'm actually kinda glad that it's all over. TF: Prime was an interesting series, but now that it's run its course, I feel that I'm ready for something new. The Go! cartoon has been entertaining enough, but it's become tough to watch it, so that's a slow going process. Rescue Bots season 2 comes this Winter, but that's still a way's off. Then there's Age of Extinction coming next year, but I need something other than another Movieverse flick to keep me vested. Here's hoping that whatever comes next to replace TF: Prime turns out to be good.
The more I think about it, the more this movie feels, to me, like a sort of response to all the fanboy wishes for future live action movies.
I mean, how often have we seen posts from people wanting the next TF movie to have any of the following:We hear these kinds of fan wishes all the time, and this movie has delivered in just 65 minutes all of what three 2 and a half hour long feature films failed to deliver (not that we should have been expecting any of that for the live action films, mind you).
- Unicron
- A story set entirely on Cybertron
- No humans
- Full focus on the robots
- Less Optimus Prime
- Less Megatron
- More characterization for the non-Optimus/non-Megatron robots
- Megatron being upgraded into a form that's not still named "Megatron"
- Bumblebee to talk permanently
- No toilet humor
- No excessive crudeness in general
- No Michael Bay
I think the only things missing from this movie that fans kept asking for are the Dinobots (which Age of Extinction will be giving us), Megatron's upgraded form being named "Galvatron", and for a movie that would have all of this to be one that would be released in theaters (which really doesn't matter in the long run since both theatrical movies and TV/DVD movies all eventually just end up as commercial home video media anyway).
And finally, with this movie, I at last know what it means to be a Prime: Doing the best of whatever one can do for the sake of Cybertron, the Cybertronian race, and life itself. Optimus at long last fulfilled his lifelong responsibility with that final act of his, sacrificing his own life so that many others may come to live. And it was all made much more clear in just 65 minutes than it ever was in 65 episodes.
Shadowman wrote:This is Sabrblade we're talking about. His ability to store trivial information about TV shows is downright superhuman.
Caelus wrote:My wife pointed out something interesting about the prehistoric Predacons. I said that everyone was complaining because transforming for them mostly consisted of them just standing up-right. She essentially said, 'So? That's what our ancestors did.'
Fires_Of_Inferno wrote:Sadly, it fell far short of the mark.
I didn't hate the movie, but I didn't like it either. I mean, I liked the characters in it, I liked that the humans were left out (they would have muddled it up). However, there was no closure to anything, everything was just left as unresolved as the series did, if not more so.
Why in the hell was it called "Predacons Rising" when the Predacons barely did anything in it? Why not call it "Unicron Rising" instead?
Why in the hell were all the Predacon corpses *WALKING* to Cybertron's conveniently placed hole when they could effing FLY? Unicron didn't even fly to the hole, he rode on one of the dead pred's back! He can fly faster than light, why would he choose to travel at half the speed of smell? Does he even need to be there with the Preda-Deadites army? Couldn't he just FLY down to the core of Cybertron by himself and rip it open? Waiting billions of years for this moment, rides in sllooooowwwwwwwly on zombie back.
Why didn't they kill Shockwave?
Yeah he's a badass, but enough of these things could overwhelm Optimus.
Why did he back away so slowly anyway?
Why wasn't the other wave there? Soundwave could easily get out of the shadow zone.
What was the point of taking Ultra Magnus out of the picture?
Where in the eff was the Apex Armor?
Why bring Ratchet to Cybertron and not just send Ultra Magnus to Earth?
Did they kill ALL of the Vehicons?
PrymeStriker wrote:Cheese and crackers, dude! Why does it matter?!
I guess I hated it? I dunno, some one tell me what you thought, quick.
Henry921 wrote:You can always be counted on to listen to reason, Pryme.
Dead Metal wrote:Have you ever, and i mean ever seen/read/heard something that is completely original and does not copy/homage/pay tribute to something else? Here's a hint: Nope. You never have and you never will.
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