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[El Duque]

It's not like you have to pledge allegiance to one or the other, I'll get both. Prime can have some options.

Good for you, but my pocketbook is telling me that Optimus Prime can be happy with one trailer this time. So it will be time to decide as we see these come along.

Very good for me actually All kiding aside, I would love to see even more trailers, flatbeds, tankers, whatever. When I was a kid I always wanted more trailer options for OP. I wish some one would produce a trailer for Leader Movie Prime. I know a lot of you guys prefer Prime to come trailerless, due to cost and storage when in bot mode, but I want every Prime to have a trailer.

[Shadowstream]

I've become a little leery of the trailer upgrades ever since the City Commander set I got broke, and these Prime trailers that are little more than big hollow boxes are not really catching my eye any better. Sure it's definitely nice to have to have something occupying Prime's backside after so many years of seeing Optimus with a trailer of sorts, but this instance just isn't any more worth it to me than seeing him turn into Mickey Mouse or Thomas the tank engine. But that my own opinion.

[El Duque]

I've become a little leery of the trailer upgrades ever since the City Commander set I got broke, and these Prime trailers that are little more than big hollow boxes are not really catching my eye any better. Sure it's definitely nice to have to have something occupying Prime's backside after so many years of seeing Optimus with a trailer of sorts, but this instance just isn't any more worth it to me than seeing him turn into Mickey Mouse or Thomas the tank engine. But that my own opinion.

What part of your CC broke?

[metaphorge]

I did a quick-and-dirty mock-up of what this will look like with Classics Op:


Larger here.

[Shadowstream]

I've become a little leery of the trailer upgrades ever since the City Commander set I got broke, and these Prime trailers that are little more than big hollow boxes are not really catching my eye any better. Sure it's definitely nice to have to have something occupying Prime's backside after so many years of seeing Optimus with a trailer of sorts, but this instance just isn't any more worth it to me than seeing him turn into Mickey Mouse or Thomas the tank engine. But that my own opinion.

What part of your CC broke?

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[Stormrider]

Haha... Does anyone else get the feeling that the trailer announcement and pictures from BTS forced FansProject to get moving on theirs? I will be interested to see both trailers when their completed.

It's not like you have to pledge allegiance to one or the other, I'll get both. Prime can have some options.

Good for you, but my pocketbook is telling me that Optimus Prime can be happy with one trailer this time. So it will be time to decide as we see these come along.

Very good for me actually All kiding aside, I would love to see even more trailers, flatbeds, tankers, whatever. When I was a kid I always wanted more trailer options for OP. I wish some one would produce a trailer for Leader Movie Prime. I know a lot of you guys prefer Prime to come trailerless, due to cost and storage when in bot mode, but I want every Prime to have a trailer.

I would be into that. No reason why Prime needs to be restricted to one trailer.

[Barrelass]

Haha... Does anyone else get the feeling that the trailer announcement and pictures from BTS forced FansProject to get moving on theirs? I will be interested to see both trailers when their completed.

I was thinking the same thing, lets hope it just doesn't force them to rush it to market. Hopefully they don't sacrifice any QC to get this thing into our hands faster.

[Dread_Wing]

Haha... Does anyone else get the feeling that the trailer announcement and pictures from BTS forced FansProject to get moving on theirs? I will be interested to see both trailers when their completed.

I was thinking the same thing, lets hope it just doesn't force them to rush it to market. Hopefully they don't sacrifice any QC to get this thing into our hands faster.

It makes sense, most collectors who want a trailer for Classics/Henkei Prime will only get one trailer. If Fansproject let BTS sell out before bringing out their version, when it came to selling their trailer the customer base would be significantly smaller.

[DevastaTTor]

I'm not going to jump to any conclusions yet. I love their other products so hopefully they won't disappoint here.

[Narc]

Seeing that mock-up with classics Optimus made me realize that there seems to be little to no articulation between the cab and trailer. It just seems to sit far too forward and almost flush with the cab. I wish there was some provision for it to swing a bit to either side.

[Electron]

Nice hope it comes with stuff, and reasonabley priced

will get if can

[Stormrider]

Seeing that mock-up with classics Optimus made me realize that there seems to be little to no articulation between the cab and trailer. It just seems to sit far too forward and almost flush with the cab. I wish there was some provision for it to swing a bit to either side.

Don't jumped to conclusions yet. We haven't seen proper pictures yet.

[Kique]

I will wait for more pics, but I think its save to say I'll probably get it ...

[Counterpunch]

Seeing that mock-up with classics Optimus made me realize that there seems to be little to no articulation between the cab and trailer. It just seems to sit far too forward and almost flush with the cab. I wish there was some provision for it to swing a bit to either side.

That's because the mock-up is inaccurate.

G1 Prime didn't pull his trailer that closely to the cab...no semi does. Magus was the way it was because there ARE some care carriers that do that.

[TFBuyer]

Wow, now I'm almost thinking this one for Classics Prime, but the other BTS one for my Nemesis Prime.... It would be cool to have all three with different trailers.

[decepticonjon]

Wow, now I'm almost thinking this one for Classics Prime, but the other BTS one for my Nemesis Prime.... It would be cool to have all three with different trailers.

i thought the exact same thing

[rpetras]

Wow, now I'm almost thinking this one for Classics Prime, but the other BTS one for my Nemesis Prime.... It would be cool to have all three with different trailers.

i thought the exact same thing

Yea, I think that is what I'm going to do.

Nemmy will get the "futuristic" trailer, and Optimus will get the standard trailer.

[metaphorge]

Seeing that mock-up with classics Optimus made me realize that there seems to be little to no articulation between the cab and trailer. It just seems to sit far too forward and almost flush with the cab. I wish there was some provision for it to swing a bit to either side.

That's because the mock-up is inaccurate.

G1 Prime didn't pull his trailer that closely to the cab...no semi does.

I beg to differ; not always:







I based my estimation of how Prime would pull the trailer on the position of the "side skirting" and rear wheels of the trailer; I don't see why it would be positioned and shaped as it is if it were not meant to almost meet the "ground effects" on the cab in the same fashion as the City Commander.

Do you have access to information that would suggest otherwise, or are you also "eyeballing" it?

There's a basic engineering problem with having an articulated trailer for the Classics Op mold; unless you have a connection point that's really far back on the cab (like on the BT trailer), the trailer hits the "knees" on the cab when you try to turn. The only other possibility is to make the trailer high enough up to clear the "knees", which would lead to it looking awkward as well. I wager that FansProject is not going to go either route.

It's quite possible that the attachment point may be slightly further back on the tractor than it is in my mock-up, but I'm going to guess it will turn slightly if at all.

Magus was the way it was because there ARE some care carriers that do that.

The City Commander trailer is NOT a car carrier, so I'm not sure that wil have any bearing on things.

[Counterpunch]

[metaphorge]

*SNIP*

As you'll note, above I said "not always". I provided examples that your statement did not always hold up.

(The last photo, btw, shows a truck that is NOT EVEN CONNECTED TO ITS TRAILER, but I digress.)

We're both engaging in speculation at this point, but there are certainly real-world examples that back up the cab's placement in my mock-up is possible... I'll refrain from a tit-for-tat image posting. (Though SHAME ON YOU for citing Energon Prime as evidence of anything except bad design.)

(One intersting note from looking at the toy photos you posted: G1 Prime's trailer is really out of step with reality; the connection point is way behind the strongest load-bearing point on the cab.)

[Counterpunch]

We're both engaging in speculation at this point, but there are certainly real-world examples that back up the cab's placement in my mock-up is possible... I'll refrain from a tit-for-tat image posting. (Though SHAME ON YOU for citing Energon Prime as evidence of anything except bad design.)

(One intersting note from looking at the toy photos you posted: G1 Prime's trailer is really out of step with reality; the connection point is way behind the strongest load-bearing point on the cab.)

I agree entirely.

Except on Energon Prime being bad design! He's the E.Honda of Prime Time!

[kirbenvost]

Looks very nice for sure, but I actually think I prefer the BTS one, seems to fit the more stylized look of Classics Prime.

[metaphorge]

Also worth stating: I still want Powermaster/Apex armor for Classics Prime....

[Hard Hacker]

I bet people are going to sell their houses just to buy a BOX ON WHEELS just because it's more G1. I prefer the other upgrade.

[Electron]

I bet people are going to their houses just to buy a BOX ON WHEELS just because it's more G1. I prefer the other upgrade.

everyone goes home i don't get it?

and yeh i love a nice G1 fan wank who doesn't kudos to fans project, i will probably get both the fp and bts one, if my wallet permits