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[dragons]

i signed 1 oe 2 others need home adress i wasnt doing that or web site

[Megatron Wolf]

Good move posting this and getting it on the front page, every one here needs to know about this cause this will pretty much destroy the internet for us all. I wont go into another long winded rant as to why i think these bills are bullshit but i will say this pretty much goes against the constitution and the rights we're suppose to have as americans. Last time i checked this is the USA the land of the free not Soviet Russia or North Korea. I support seibertron.com and any other website blacking themselves out to protest. I just hope theres enough sites and people protesting to make sure this does not happen.

[Alex Jones]

If any members on this board is of voting age, I would highly recommend asking potential politicians about their stance on this bill and register to vote.

Also I would also if you are eligible to vote in any of the Republican primaries in your state, recommend supporting Ron Paul for the Republican nominee since he clearly against the SOPA act and stand by our constitutional right for free speech.

[Court Jester]

There's only one thing left to do then...

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[Godzillabot Primal]

*Grinds teeth* they'd better not shut this site down! It is the most social activity in my life!

[Insidious]

What a cringe-inducing piece of legislation.

[Psychout]

Spread the word on this guys, our Internet is under threat.

There is a speck of good news though, even some of the bills own sponsors are having second thoughts, and will be asking to delay its cloture vote (a vote to skip any extended discussion and rush it through).
The battle is still far from over though, please be sure you do all you can to make your representatives aware of your opposition to this bill.

As far as the blackout on the 18th is concerned, Reddit.com are spearheading the drive and many other websites have already signed up to it in various forms including blacking out their websites completely, altering their layout and taking down their YouTube channels and Facebook pages for the day. Even Wikipedia are hoping to join the blackout as long as the vote for it gets through on the commons (we'll find out Monday or Tuesday)

I was wondering.. how would this affect resources which are not U.S. based?
Would it mostly lie within the area of copyright depositing, or is it on the actual broadcasting/hosting/whathaveyou side of things?

Firstly, to clarify, I'm British and live in that most blessed part of England, Manchester. I wrote this article as I don't have a representative to contact so this is me doing my part - if even just a handful if US members contact their politicians and say "what the hell do you think you are doing?!" who wouldn't have done otherwise, then I'll have done my bit.

As I understand it, this Bill effects the UK and Australia and Europe and everywhere else primarily as the Internet is comprised of .com websites, all of which are owned/operated by the US and therefore come under US jurisdiction regardless of the country the servers are based in. If its a .com, .org, .net then its an 'American' site, regardless of who owns it.

Also, think about the knock-on effect: Seibertron.com gets shut-down an d the American posters can no longer access it. Lets just assume the site stays up, it would be like a ghost town here. At a guess I'd say a good 75% of this sites membership is from the US so that leaves the 25% of us non-Americans with a very large but empty site. No traffic, no HMW opponents, no one to talk to.

Now apply that to Facebook. Wikipedia. YouTube. Twitter.
It isn't just America that will suffer from this.

[Vicalliose]

Is S.978 still floating around? It's essentially the exact same thing as SOPA. Except I also remember that in S.978 they would tap your lines for viewing the content, then arrest you if they found you guilty of uploading anything or any other crimes.

I was wondering.. how would this affect resources which are not U.S. based?
Would it mostly lie within the area of copyright depositing, or is it on the actual broadcasting/hosting/whathaveyou side of things?

Almost seems like it will take a world police stance. Canadians are afraid anyway.

Ron Paul is really the only candidate who cares about civil rights issues like these. To bad he's behind Romney. Paul is the only reason I'm registered as Republican and not still independent. In fact most of the house is comprised of republicans right now. Most of them old and stereotypically ignorant to the effects of the bill. They're only for it because it the Democrats are voting against it.

On a side note this would also apparently shut down ebay and similar resale sites.

[dinogeist]

Thanks for putting this article together, Psychout. I really appreciate it. Hopefully our efforts will help make people aware of these scary bills and that we can do our part to make a difference.

Looking forward to hearing comments and seeing discussions from within our community here on Seibertron.com.

Personally from my perspective all these laws & regulations exist to control/degrade the lower & middle class.

WHAT UPSETS ME THE MOST,when these laws & regulations are created. The rich & powerful are exempt from following them.

if your gonna create new laws & new regulations then EVERYONE should follow them not just some.

I think with the downward spiral economy getting worser & worser every year. the big corporations are getting more greedy & trying to steal every penny away from the hard working people they can.

instead of the big corporations trying to help out the working man. their doing the oppossite & making it worse for them during this extremly bad downward spiral economy.

From my persective capitalism is worse than communism.

[Twitchythe3rd]

I believe it's already been stalled to the point it isn't going to happen.

Still, better to spread the word amongst the people and let them know the Apocalypse is coming early.