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Where are all the new Transformers, Hasbro?

Postby DevastaTTor » Fri Apr 15, 2011 10:43 pm

Let's take a trip back in time, shall we.

Flash back to nine months ago: 2011 held so much promise for Transformers fans. The dream of new figures that we'd been begging Hasbro for since the introduction of the Classics line five years ago was finally being realized. In presentations and press releases, Hasbro revealed some very exciting new figures would be added to the Generations line and that a new line, Reveal the Shield, would be introduced at the end of the year. Both lines would have some very significant releases as well as popular repaints and would carry fans and collectors through first half of 2011, up to the release of the Dark of the Moon toy line. The first looks at the figures we were getting were downright exciting: Wheeljack, "Special Ops" Jazz, Scourge, Windcharger, "Sergeant" Kup, Perceptor, "Solar Storm" Grapple (well Grappel, but hey, no one ís perfect), Blurr, and Wreck-Gar just to name a few. Some of the staff even named the introduction of the RTS/Generations figures as the most exciting event of 2010. It really felt like Hasbro had been listening to us and what we wanted and was finally turning our feedback and requests into glorious plastic that would bring us that much closer to completing our neo-G1 displays. All was right with the Transformers universe. It seemed too good to be true.

There was only one problem: for many fans, it WAS too good to be true.

Fast forward to the present: the Hunt for the Decepticons line still lingers on, the controversial Power Core Combiners figures have proven to be slow movers, and the big release of the TF3 toy line is little more than a month away. Most retailers seem unwilling to restock shelves with the good stuff in order to clear out lingering figures in anticipation of the onslaught of new movie toys. HasbroToyShop.com is in what seems like a perpetual state of "OUT OF STOCK". Gas prices have shot up to near record levels making the once fun "toy hunt" a very costly endeavor. And in the midst of all the shelf-warmers, empty store pegs, and gas pump agony, we're left standing there asking one very simple question: Where are the new Transformers, Hasbro?

Looking back at what's happened in the past four months, all the figures we were promised last year are, at best, trickling out to stores and retailers. While some fans have report seeing new figures at retail such as Wreck-Gar, Scourge, Tracks, etc., these sightings are inconsistent. Some stores and regions have seen several of the new waves of Generations and Reveal the Shield repeatedly stocked, while others haven't received any of the new waves at all. Every time one of these new figures is introduced to the Seibertron.com galleries or is reported on the sightings forum, we see comments and complaints from fans desperately searching for them. And to make matters worse, in the midst of all the frustration, rumors of partial cancellation of certain releases such as scout-class Windcharger have left collectors scrambling for the handful of figures that have been released-and for answers.

The staff here at Seibertron.com has also been feeling your pain and asking the same questions too so we set out to try and find some answers. We tried the obvious route: go to Hasbro and simply ask the question-where the heck are all the new figures? Why have so many new releases from the Reveal the Shield and Generations lines not made their onto store shelves? Is this a Hasbro problem, a global economy issue, of are stores not ordering other lines in preparation for the Dark of the Moon toys? Are all the newest figures being shipped overseas due to the weak dollar or is this lack of product just the toy gods thumbing their noses in the collective face of Transformers fans everywhere? Needless to say, we're still waiting for a response.

But, interestingly enough, the answer may have actually come to us in the form of a forum post in response to yesterday's story about Hasbro's huge first loss last quarter. Seibertron.com member amtm posted a very revealing excerpt from Hasbro's annual report that was published earlier this year. Here is that post again for those who missed it yesterday:

Revenues from the Company’s top five customers, all retailers, accounted for approximately 50% of its consolidated net revenues in 2010 and 54% and 52% of its consolidated net revenues in 2009 and 2008, respectively. In recent years certain customers in the retail sector have experienced economic difficulty. ...

The Company’s revenue pattern continues to show the second half of the year to be more significant to its overall business for the full year. In 2010, approximately 65% of the Company’s full year net revenues were recognized in the second half of the year. Although the Company expects that this concentration will continue, particularly as more of its business has shifted to larger customers with order patterns concentrated in the second half of the year, this concentration may be less in years where the Company has products related to a major motion picture release that occurs in the first half of the year. In 2010, the Company had products related to the mid-year major motion picture release of IRON MAN 2, while in 2009 the Company had products related to the mid-year major motion picture releases of TRANSFORMERS: REVENGE OF THE FALLEN, G.I. JOE: THE RISE OF COBRA and X-MEN ORIGINS: WOLVERINE. The concentration of sales in the second half of the year increases the risk of (a) underproduction of popular items, (b) overproduction of less popular items, and (c) failure to achieve tight and compressed shipping schedules. The business of the Company is characterized by customer order patterns which vary from year to year largely because of differences in the degree of consumer acceptance of a product line, product availability, marketing strategies, inventory levels, policies of retailers and differences in overall economic conditions. The trend of larger retailers has been to maintain lower inventories throughout the year and purchase a greater percentage of product within or close to the fourth quarter holiday consumer selling season, which includes Christmas.

Quick response inventory management practices being used by retailers result in more orders being placed for immediate delivery and fewer orders being placed well in advance of shipment. Retailers are timing their orders so that they are being filled by suppliers closer to the time of purchase by consumers. To the extent that retailers do not sell as much of their year-end inventory purchases during this holiday selling season as they had anticipated, their demand for additional product earlier in the following fiscal year may be curtailed, thus negatively impacting the Company’s future revenues.


What can we take from all of this? In a nutshell, no matter how great Hasbro's products are, if they're released in the beginning of the year, the retail sector is just not going to be very interested. They're too busy cooling down after the Christmas boom and waiting for the summer/fall toys to carry them back into the holidays again. So perhaps the latest Generations and RTS figures are simply the victim of bad timing. No matter how good they are or how many of us want them, the business philosophy of the Walmarts, Tescos, and Targets of the world is to is to buy and stock as little new product as possible first half of the year. Which lead us to our last question of this article...

If the stores aren't stocking these amazing figures, for whatever reason, why can't we ever find them on HasbroToyShop.com? This is the question we've already posed to Hasbro and it's the questions we're going to continue to ask. And we want your help! We want to hear from you. We want you to sound off to us about your issues finding figures in your area. Are you seeing a lot of empty pegs at stores in your area? Are you seeing tons of old stock on shelves, Hunt for the Decepticons figures or older? Do you feel like you have to purchase figures at a premium price just to assure you'll get them? Have you missed out at HasbroToyShop.com when the new figures are reported as being in Stock? We'd like to hear from you, your latest experiences in stores and online, and if you're having any success now finding the newest and most sought-after from the Reveal the Shield and Generations lines. Send us photos of what the sorry shelves or pegs look like at your local retailer. We'll collect your comments and photos and share them with Hasbro so they can get first hand accounts of what you're seeing (or what you haven't seen) in stores and just how bad the new figure drought is in some areas. Please keep it clean and civil though-over the top or nasty comments won't be included.

Let's all unite and let Hasbro know what's going on in the retail trenches we wage our collecting battles in. We might not be able to change the world or get more figures on store shelves, but together, maybe we can at least get Hasbro to acknowledge the problem, understand our pains, and get more stock up on HasbroToyShop.

In the meantime, while we're all waiting for a reply and hopefully some action, take a look at what we've all been waiting for. Check out some of the Seibertron.com galleries of some of the best figures from the Generations and Reveal the Shield toy lines by clicking the links or images below.


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Re: Where are all the new Transformers, Hasbro?

Postby omega666 » Fri Apr 15, 2011 11:02 pm

I think it SUCKS that Hasbro puts the more desirable figures in later waves than in the early waves.

And HasbroToyShop.com should never run out of stock.
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Re: Where are all the new Transformers, Hasbro?

Postby Catalyst_Prime » Fri Apr 15, 2011 11:03 pm

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I live in NE Wisconsin and the only time i have seen a single RTS or Generation figure is sadly at a Kohl which only had Tracks and Spec Ops Jazz I'm starting to get a little PO'd about this whole thing and with the movie line I will only be buying a few of the intial figures and I'll be extremely dissapointed of I don't get a few of these really great figures. THese lines are like my G1 because theyare great modern interpratations of classic and excellent characters leave a comment if you agree with me :sad: :sad: :BOOM: :BOOM: :-( :-(
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Re: Where are all the new Transformers, Hasbro?

Postby El Duque » Fri Apr 15, 2011 11:04 pm

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This only further reinforces my "safety net" reflex to preorder everything online as soon as the preorders open up.
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Re: Where are all the new Transformers, Hasbro?

Postby Kibble » Fri Apr 15, 2011 11:04 pm

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Here's what the pathetic local Walmart near me has looked like for the last couple months:

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They're not even trying to clear older stock...they're just empty and apparently content with that fact.
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Re: Where are all the new Transformers, Hasbro?

Postby grimdragon2001 » Fri Apr 15, 2011 11:09 pm

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ok, im in west palm beach florida, and an area that is normally a month or so behind on recieving any new toys in the stores. currently there are quite a bit of HFTD and older generations waves, up to skullgrins release. i still see Animated and a bunch of ROTF figures at my local TRU. anything newer has been very scarce, meaning one case showing up at a store at a random time. last time my local TRU got any new TFs it was as follows

1 Tracks
1 Jazz
1 Bumblebee
1 Perceptor
1 Wreck-gar
2 G2 Optimus

there have not been any RTS Voyagers or Scouts anywhere in my area, and right now all i can do is hope that they come along with the movie stuff
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Re: Where are all the new Transformers, Hasbro?

Postby r3devi7 » Fri Apr 15, 2011 11:15 pm

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Upstate Ny near Albany, lots of Hailstorm, Sidearm Sideswipe, Cybertron Optimus, and Cybertron Bumblebee. Even some of the twins left. Have yet to see any of the newer TFs here.
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Re: Where are all the new Transformers, Hasbro?

Postby Bumblebee26 » Fri Apr 15, 2011 11:19 pm

I think it's bs. We were told these figures were coming and we are still waiting. Luckily I was able to find Kup and Scourge last week but they are the first figures I have seen in any line in the last few monthes. None of the stores in my area are restocking and if they do it's all HFTD stuff. And I dont understand how Hasbrotoyshop.com can be out of stock it makes no since to me. I think the whole thing is bs. personaly I don't want to have to pay twice as much for a figure then it would be at retail.
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Re: Where are all the new Transformers, Hasbro?

Postby NOBODY LOVES WHEELIE » Fri Apr 15, 2011 11:20 pm

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I hate being this guy but my honest opinion...

This is the Classics Ratchet, Wheelie, Cosmos wave all over again.

I amazingly have found Kup and Scourge and Laser Rod Prime.

And Tracks was like tracking down Cupakabra.

That's it...no Wheeljack, Grapple, Thundercracker, Lugnut, Wreck Gar, Warpath, Deep Dive, Windcharger, or Perceptor.

And with a May release for DOTM toys (it is still May right?) unless Hasbro is just gonna push Classics and RTS along side DOTM I'm gonna say were screwed.

Personally I'm calling Hasbro on the carpet here...not because of what stores order I get that's a problem they can't control, but because there simply is ZERO reason that when something like this happens they can't recycle these figures into future releases of Classics.

There should have been no reason why Ratchet didn't pop up in RTS or Classics, same with Cosmos or Wheelie. And if these figures come up short at retail now do to low store orders there is no reason why they shouldn't hit stores in future waves...or even show up in secondary stores like Marshells or TJ Maxx like items from the G.I. Joe line have.


I guess time will tell.
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Re: Where are all the new Transformers, Hasbro?

Postby MINDVVIPE » Fri Apr 15, 2011 11:21 pm

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Lets see now.

Here in Van, I see figures as old as Oil Pan in Walmart, and the most current being a Blurr, and some sunspots and the likes of that series. Local Comics and Toys store has Tracks, Sidwarm Sideswipe, and some of those Hailstorm and ROTF Brawn repaints.
Across the border in Seatle and I see the latest figures being Terradive, Blurr, Tracks, and a Scourge at Target. Generally Bellingham Target has more recent figures, but still trails a fair bit compared to how soon i'm sure Mid America gets them.
Haven't seen a single Jazz, Perceptor, Wheeljack, Kup, or Windcharger yet. I'm sure if they do show up, they are bought FAST. Surprised I even found one Scourge.
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Re: Where are all the new Transformers, Hasbro?

Postby Gandalf » Fri Apr 15, 2011 11:24 pm

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Many of my local Wal-Mart stores (west coast Florida) still have Revenge of the Fallen figures at full price, and what's worse, they have consolidated all of the ROTF deluxes to the Generations pegs, leaving zero room for new products. Some stores even mix Generations, Hunt for the Decepticons and Reveal the Shield on the same pegs. This seems to be pretty problematic.

Additionally, my local Toys R Us just last month put out fresh CASES of Revenge of the Fallen deluxes. What gives?

I've been lucky and found most of what I want at my local Target and then on a trip outside of Florida, but I still haven't found the newer Generations (Wheeljack, Thundercracker), RtS Voyagers (Grappel), and of course no new Scouts (Windcharger!). But Florida is usually among the last places to get new products, anyway.
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Re: Where are all the new Transformers, Hasbro?

Postby El Duque » Fri Apr 15, 2011 11:26 pm

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omega666 wrote:And HasbroToyShop.com should never run out of stock.


This.
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Re: Where are all the new Transformers, Hasbro?

Postby Kibble » Fri Apr 15, 2011 11:32 pm

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Re: Where are all the new Transformers, Hasbro?

Postby El Duque » Fri Apr 15, 2011 11:53 pm

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Kibble wrote:ps...TL;DR

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Re: Where are all the new Transformers, Hasbro?

Postby XStarfireX » Fri Apr 15, 2011 11:55 pm

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Here in Maine, stock is just as sad as many of you have described. Need and Oil Pan oh yeah we have plenty.
I personally have been in search of the latest Legends. Following the long cold trail of some Kmart's having them in December, I have haunted both my local one and while visiting, about five in Oregon. What I see is utter carnage. A few ROTF figures hang askew on bent pegs. When the department associate was asked if they would be getting more she responded with peeved tone "We aren't getting anymore until those are gone." Yeah good luck selling those Lady.
The other retail hopefuls, like WalMart, Target, TRUS, seem to all share these same aggressive selling techniques...torture the consumer with repetitive drivel product until they breakdown and buy one in desperation and then sit at home crying holding their third HFTD Ironhide.
I won't even go into Toy's R Us' seemingly endless supply of Animated Oil Slick...what is it about the characters with oil in their name?
I think a great deal of pain and suffering would be alleviated if HTS just got their heads out of the oil, and started selling their own product on *gasp* their own site.
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Re: Where are all the new Transformers, Hasbro?

Postby Rated X » Fri Apr 15, 2011 11:55 pm

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Here in Miami Florida we have had plenty of Generations, but RTS is very scarce.

The only figures I had trouble finding was Perceptor and Wreck Gar. My homie found me Perceptor, and I found possibly the last Wreck-Gar in Miami. I need 2 more for my Junkion armor sets I ordered. Having 3 additional bikes for them would be considered a luxury.

I saw Scourge 6 times and bought 5 of the 6. (3 for me and 2 for my homie) I saw a few Kups. Snagged one for me and one for him. Saw a couple more a week later but they dissappeared quick.

Never seen Grapple, Lugnut, or Starfe.
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Re: Where are all the new Transformers, Hasbro?

Postby Doubledealer93 » Fri Apr 15, 2011 11:55 pm

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here in ravenna ohio, at my local walmart we still have HFTD deluxes and voyagers, generations blurr, skullgrin, WFC megatron, red alert, thunderwing, battle in space 2 pack, and a bunch of HFTD scouts. there are lot of empty pegs and ofr some reason there are some ROTF leader megatrons. a few months ago i saw kup and scourge there and there were onlt one of each and i got them while i could. hasbro you better find a way to get our figures if you want our money. i have not seen preceptor, windcharger of course, wreck-gar, G2 laser prime, solar storm grapple, wheelejack and warpath. WTF. i saw leader ROTF SS for a while and now he is likely never to be sold again in my area. i am pissed, as are all of us, and we want our toys! you dont get our money until we see toys. AND NO HUNT FOR THE DECEPTICONS, ROTF OR POWER CORE COMBINERS!!! :BOOM:
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Re: Where are all the new Transformers, Hasbro?

Postby Mkall » Fri Apr 15, 2011 11:56 pm

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All this further reinforces my reasonings for buying online.
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Re: Where are all the new Transformers, Hasbro?

Postby Janus Prime » Sat Apr 16, 2011 12:05 am

So retailers buy more stuff during and after the summer, all the way to Christmas, and then they stop, knowing that most consumers won´t buy anything in the beginning of the year.
Is this really a new trend? It´s been less than a year since I follow this kind of news, but nothing sounds out of place with this one.
I agree, Hasbro made me forget what usually happens in a "movie year", but what is going on now happened also in 2009, with the difference that the Universe releases were fewer.
Shouldn´t we expect this to happen instead of acting all surprised?
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Re: Where are all the new Transformers, Hasbro?

Postby Optimusfan79 » Sat Apr 16, 2011 12:06 am

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Here in Michigan I was fortunate 2 find Wreck-Gar & Perceptor but just barely, but yeah this is some bs, they have these toy shows & they tellin us that these figures are coming out & they either not showin up or barely showin up & that's wrong. I think not only should this problem b taken 2 hasbro but also 2 the companies that r suppose 2 b selling this stuff 2 us Target, Wal-Mart & etc. I don't wanna go on HTS & pay extra s&h 4 sumtin that suppose 2 b in the store that's wrong & everyone don't feel comfortable with using or have access to the internet to purchase these items. The Canadian TRU by me have alot of Wreck-Gar's & Perceptor's & it shouldn't b like that, they should b avaiable over here like that as well as the rest of the line's in both regions. But I do have a ? I hope sum1 or seibertron.com can answer, how do we send the pics of the different store's in to the website do we email it or do we post it on the wall? But either way I'm on board with this idea of letting these companies know that we want what was promised 2 us!
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Re: Where are all the new Transformers, Hasbro?

Postby Doubledealer93 » Sat Apr 16, 2011 12:08 am

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Mkall wrote:All this further reinforces my reasonings for buying online.


yeah im goin with ya on this one. to hell with walmart and all the others, im goin on line shopping from now on. :evil:
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Re: Where are all the new Transformers, Hasbro?

Postby Twitchythe3rd » Sat Apr 16, 2011 12:08 am

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I order online out of convinience and laziness, since the horror stories i've been hearing discourage an actual figure hunt.

Speaking of online shopping, isn't HTS basically buying straight from the source (aka Hasbro themselves)? How can the source of the product be out of their own product? It seems impossible, yet it's happening.

I'm still keeping to the conspiracy theroy that stores are purposefully coasting into the DOTM line on whatever they've got left sitting around from ROTF/HTFD.
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Re: Where are all the new Transformers, Hasbro?

Postby Optimusfan79 » Sat Apr 16, 2011 12:17 am

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Re: Where are all the new Transformers, Hasbro?

Postby Megatron Wolf » Sat Apr 16, 2011 12:22 am

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My problems are still he same, either the pegs are empty, there are 10 sea attack ravages and 2 cliffjumpers, or the prices are way to high and they just have a bunch of old stuff. Also every time i get a tip that HTS is "stocked" again either i get there to late or the stuff goes out of stock as im making the order. Next time my friends and i go hunting we're going to take pictures and send them directly to hasbro and the stores corporate offices, hopefully if the entire fandom does this things will be put back on track. Plus ill post them here so you can all feel our pain. Also look at the the other hasbro lines in the stores (GIJOE,Star Wars,Marvel) i bet they're empty as well. All the sotes around here either have no GIJOE stuff or there are only 2 figures.
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Re: Where are all the new Transformers, Hasbro?

Postby Court Jester » Sat Apr 16, 2011 12:26 am

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I don't know where I read it, but I was under the assumption that the movie, RTS, and Generations lines would run concurrently. Is it at all possible we are jumping the gun on cancellation rumors? Shouldn't we wait for the movie line to be released and see what else is on the shelf/pegs adjacent? I mean if it's all DOTM stuff, then I say pitchforks and torches... until then, what's another two - three weeks?



I mean logically speaking, everything clogging shelves right now, namely ROTF/HFTD figures, can be sent to Ross's, Marshalls, and TJ Maxx easily, correct?
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