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Sabrblade wrote:You need to. The stories of the books are very different from those of the games, and the Prime cartoon seems to tie in more with the books than with the games.![]()
Sabrblade wrote:Hmm, off the top of my head, I can't recall Exodus talking of larger TFs during the pre-war times (Unicron's attack --> the War of the Primes --> the Age of Wrath --> the Golden Age --> the rise of the caste system --> the war). Though, during the Golden Age, Bruticus Maximus was created by Shockwave as the first gestalt, but his combined form proved too unstable and was put into stasis. He did not resurface until later in the war, which he took part in as an active living combatant.
Other combiners, the Devastators and Defensor, did not show up until during the war.
Well, I'm just saying, if ya want the full story, the books are the way to go. Compared to Exodus, WFC's story was pretty bare-boned.NatsumeRyu wrote:Sabrblade wrote:You need to. The stories of the books are very different from those of the games, and the Prime cartoon seems to tie in more with the books than with the games.![]()
Believe it or not, that's not encouraging me to want to read them, LOL. If the reverse were true (more game friendly) than I would be inclined. It's not that I don't like Prime, but I'm more interested in games. And since it's my college major, it helps if I sort-of focus on games for school, lol.
Nah, Shocky ain't that deep. He experiments for sadistic and sinister purposes, rather than for philosophical reasons.NatsumeRyu wrote:I would then be inclined to think that Shockwave would create the gestalts as a call back to their former glory as Cybertronians; his attempts at once again reaching whatever pinnacle they were at and now apparently don't have full records of anymore. *shrug*
Shadowman wrote:This is Sabrblade we're talking about. His ability to store trivial information about TV shows is downright superhuman.
Caelus wrote:My wife pointed out something interesting about the prehistoric Predacons. I said that everyone was complaining because transforming for them mostly consisted of them just standing up-right. She essentially said, 'So? That's what our ancestors did.'
Sabrblade wrote:The Illustrated Tour Of Cybertron
Cybertron, Iacon, Sea of Rust, Space Bridge, Insecticon Invasion, Shockwave's Lair, Kaon, the Nemesis, the Ark, Teletran.
Of note, the Nemesis looks very faithful to its look in the Prime cartoon.
Wigglez wrote:Just remember. The sword is an extension of your arm. Use it as if you're going to karate chop someone with your really long sharp ass hand.
Shadowman wrote:Here's the problem with that. WfC had a big gallery of art that looked like that. Not exactly, mind you, but the same style, incredibly impressive landscapes and such. And very, very little of it ended up being used to make anything in the game. While it looks beautiful (And some of them are screenshots rather than art) keep in mind that it's highly unlikely this is what the game will look like.
MINDVVIPE wrote:Shadowman wrote:Here's the problem with that. WfC had a big gallery of art that looked like that. Not exactly, mind you, but the same style, incredibly impressive landscapes and such. And very, very little of it ended up being used to make anything in the game. While it looks beautiful (And some of them are screenshots rather than art) keep in mind that it's highly unlikely this is what the game will look like.
Sadly, I have to agree. As much as the artwork kicks ass in lots of places, its probably best to base the game on the actual rendered pics. I like the colours in the lighting, but I hope we get the same variety (in colour and level complexity) as shown from some of the more ground based environments concepts.
Starscream GaGa wrote:I wonder if this game will be based on the G1 cartoon continuity or the Prime continuity? I really hope Grimlock is liek his cartoon self?
And before anyway says they're not the same continuity, go back and play the first game again, because it was undeniably made with the 80's cartoon in mind.
Prime continuity. But Grimlock is dimwitted like G1 cartoon Grimlock.Starscream GaGa wrote:I wonder if this game will be based on the G1 cartoon continuity or the Prime continuity? I really hope Grimlock is like his cartoon self?
I have. And it's undeniable that those are just homages and that the WFC is completely irreconcilable with the G1 cartoon. I got proof.Starscream GaGa wrote:And before anyway says they're not the same continuity, go back and play the first game again, because it was undeniably made with the 80's cartoon in mind.
Looking like G1 =/= G1. Animated and the Movies both had some heavily G1-inspired character designs (and even some G1 voice veterans), but they aren't G1 either.wigglez323 wrote:That's what I said. Everybody says it's soposed to go into Prime. But I personally think it goes into G1 because of the fact that everybody looks like G1. I don't even like prime anyway.
Shadowman wrote:This is Sabrblade we're talking about. His ability to store trivial information about TV shows is downright superhuman.
Caelus wrote:My wife pointed out something interesting about the prehistoric Predacons. I said that everyone was complaining because transforming for them mostly consisted of them just standing up-right. She essentially said, 'So? That's what our ancestors did.'
wigglez323 wrote:That's what I said. Everybody says it's soposed to go into Prime. But I personally think it goes into G1 because of the fact that everybody looks like G1. I don't even like prime anyway.
Wigglez wrote:Just remember. The sword is an extension of your arm. Use it as if you're going to karate chop someone with your really long sharp ass hand.
Shadowman wrote:Here's the problem with that. WfC had a big gallery of art that looked like that. Not exactly, mind you, but the same style, incredibly impressive landscapes and such. And very, very little of it ended up being used to make anything in the game. While it looks beautiful (And some of them are screenshots rather than art) keep in mind that it's highly unlikely this is what the game will look like.
NatsumeRyu wrote:Shadowman wrote:Here's the problem with that. WfC had a big gallery of art that looked like that. Not exactly, mind you, but the same style, incredibly impressive landscapes and such. And very, very little of it ended up being used to make anything in the game. While it looks beautiful (And some of them are screenshots rather than art) keep in mind that it's highly unlikely this is what the game will look like.
Can you link me to the gallery, so I can argue against your point?
Wigglez wrote:Just remember. The sword is an extension of your arm. Use it as if you're going to karate chop someone with your really long sharp ass hand.
Shadowman wrote:wigglez323 wrote:That's what I said. Everybody says it's soposed to go into Prime. But I personally think it goes into G1 because of the fact that everybody looks like G1. I don't even like prime anyway.
We've been over this already. Grimlock is the finishing move here, too. He can't exist on Cybertron if Wheeljack built him on Earth in the present day, can he?
And, as Sabrblade said, looking like G1 does not make it G1. Because Animated is designed to be one homage after another, and Beast Wars looks nothing like G1.
chuckdawg1999 wrote:Shadowman wrote:wigglez323 wrote:That's what I said. Everybody says it's soposed to go into Prime. But I personally think it goes into G1 because of the fact that everybody looks like G1. I don't even like prime anyway.
We've been over this already. Grimlock is the finishing move here, too. He can't exist on Cybertron if Wheeljack built him on Earth in the present day, can he?
And, as Sabrblade said, looking like G1 does not make it G1. Because Animated is designed to be one homage after another, and Beast Wars looks nothing like G1.
Marvel G1 Comics, they were on the ark with the other Autobots and awoken by teletran-1 to stop Shockwave.
Wigglez wrote:Just remember. The sword is an extension of your arm. Use it as if you're going to karate chop someone with your really long sharp ass hand.
Shadowman wrote:chuckdawg1999 wrote:Shadowman wrote:wigglez323 wrote:That's what I said. Everybody says it's soposed to go into Prime. But I personally think it goes into G1 because of the fact that everybody looks like G1. I don't even like prime anyway.
We've been over this already. Grimlock is the finishing move here, too. He can't exist on Cybertron if Wheeljack built him on Earth in the present day, can he?
And, as Sabrblade said, looking like G1 does not make it G1. Because Animated is designed to be one homage after another, and Beast Wars looks nothing like G1.
Marvel G1 Comics, they were on the ark with the other Autobots and awoken by teletran-1 to stop Shockwave.
Yeah, but everyone is always saying it's supposed to be a prequel to the G1 Cartoon. In any case, there's too many inconsistencies either way, and it doesn't fit with the cartoon or comics.
chuckdawg1999 wrote:Poor WFC doesn't fit in anywhere. Has to eat his lunch with the janitor at school.
Wigglez wrote:Just remember. The sword is an extension of your arm. Use it as if you're going to karate chop someone with your really long sharp ass hand.
Shadowman wrote:chuckdawg1999 wrote:Poor WFC doesn't fit in anywhere. Has to eat his lunch with the janitor at school.
Aligned is a about as much of a mess as G1 was. WfC/FoC, Exodus/Exiles, and TFP all barely fit in with each other. I'll chalk it up to miscommunication, the people working on all three pieces not working together. They've only recently been patching it all together, like Ratchet retelling bits of Exodus in TFP, or FoC Cliffjumper integrating parts of his TFP design.
lowman_x wrote:I think that's where the main confusion is coming from because, even though we're being told the game is not G1 continuity, I think it's obvious enough that it was originally meant to be.
Wigglez wrote:Just remember. The sword is an extension of your arm. Use it as if you're going to karate chop someone with your really long sharp ass hand.
Shadowman wrote:lowman_x wrote:I think that's where the main confusion is coming from because, even though we're being told the game is not G1 continuity, I think it's obvious enough that it was originally meant to be.
If it was a prequel to G1, then the developers skipped a loooot of episodes. Like Fire in the Sky, War Dawn, The Key to Vector Sigma, etc.
Also, Matt Tieger is a pathological liar. So even if he said WfC was meant to be a prequel to G1, he also said a lot of things that never came to pass.
chuckdawg1999 wrote:Shadowman wrote:lowman_x wrote:I think that's where the main confusion is coming from because, even though we're being told the game is not G1 continuity, I think it's obvious enough that it was originally meant to be.
If it was a prequel to G1, then the developers skipped a loooot of episodes. Like Fire in the Sky, War Dawn, The Key to Vector Sigma, etc.
Also, Matt Tieger is a pathological liar. So even if he said WfC was meant to be a prequel to G1, he also said a lot of things that never came to pass.
Tell us how you really feel about Matt Tieger Shadowman.
Wigglez wrote:Just remember. The sword is an extension of your arm. Use it as if you're going to karate chop someone with your really long sharp ass hand.
Shadowman wrote:lowman_x wrote:I think that's where the main confusion is coming from because, even though we're being told the game is not G1 continuity, I think it's obvious enough that it was originally meant to be.
If it was a prequel to G1, then the developers skipped a loooot of episodes. Like Fire in the Sky, War Dawn, The Key to Vector Sigma, etc.
Also, Matt Tieger is a pathological liar. So even if he said WfC was meant to be a prequel to G1, he also said a lot of things that never came to pass.
lowman_x wrote:Shadowman wrote:lowman_x wrote:I think that's where the main confusion is coming from because, even though we're being told the game is not G1 continuity, I think it's obvious enough that it was originally meant to be.
If it was a prequel to G1, then the developers skipped a loooot of episodes. Like Fire in the Sky, War Dawn, The Key to Vector Sigma, etc.
Also, Matt Tieger is a pathological liar. So even if he said WfC was meant to be a prequel to G1, he also said a lot of things that never came to pass.
I meant that it was probably a re-booting/imagining of the G1 continuity (ala IDW "-ation" series) which would mean: same characters, same general history, but not tied down to anything specific (cartoon episodes, comic storylines, etc).
Wigglez wrote:Just remember. The sword is an extension of your arm. Use it as if you're going to karate chop someone with your really long sharp ass hand.
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