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Re: Beast Wars in War For Cybertron Part 3

Postby Sabrblade » Tue Jul 14, 2020 9:58 am

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ZeroWolf wrote:Which part don't you get? Why there's beast wars characters
Or the story line?

Yes.

So you rather pure G1?


No, I'm guessing he is like me and just trying to make sense of something that is non-sensical and just to sell toys. Going from cybertroninan(-ish) models in Siege, to earth modes (plus Quintessons) in Earthrise, and now onto beast modes (with Rodimus) just doesn't seem to flow logically. But it doesn't need to follow logic, it just needs to sell toys.
Chronologically, the Beast Wars took place on Earth after the Ark and Nemesis crash-landed there and before the Autobots and Decepticons awoke from their slumber. The story of Earthrise is the Ark and Nemesis's journey to Earth through space, culminating in the ships crash-landing there.
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Re: Beast Wars in War For Cybertron Part 3

Postby AcademyofDrX » Tue Jul 14, 2020 10:04 am

Yeah, don't get me wrong, I love the Generations approach circa T30. It's not just one generation, or one at a time. But the WfC line doesn't seem like a logical fit, and I can't square Fossilizers with Modulators. Even little things like Blast Effects, do they ditch those? Well we get fire effects for breath attacks or more standard laser effects that don't go with beasts?

And then the narrative is a whole other thing. We don't know how the new Earthrise factions work, and now we're getting two more. Time travel alongside "alternate universe" Optimus Prime?

The IDW books and the trailer for the Netflix series are still nascent, but I can't make sense of the beasts fitting in there. I've seen all of Cyberverse (that's available in The States, anyway), and they have Quintessons and a Maximal and a Predacon, but no real through-line.

If you want to mix up or crossover product lines, I'm for it. But in this line, how, and why? I don't get it.
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Re: Beast Wars in War For Cybertron Part 3

Postby ZeroWolf » Tue Jul 14, 2020 10:38 am

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Thanks for the explanations :) I wasn't trying to be funny, just genuinely trying to understand. Thanks for clearing it up and I can certainly see that side of things, but maybe with hindsight it will make sense, not much good now I know when all we have is speculation.

Does anyone else think it odd that they would advertise part 3 on adverts for part 1? A show that they are likely only just starting production wise? I'd guess that they've been working on Earthrise already.
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Re: Beast Wars in War For Cybertron Part 3

Postby AllNewSuperRobot » Tue Jul 14, 2020 12:08 pm

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AcademyofDrX wrote: and they have Quintessons and a Maximal and a Predacon, but no real through-line.

If you want to mix up or crossover product lines, I'm for it. But in this line, how, and why? I don't get it.



This has always been the problem with cherry picking from across the range. Some of them don't make sense in belonging next to others. Star Saber was as removed from Prowl as Botanica is from him. Throwing the whole toybox into a line without real context will ultimately just alienate/confuse.
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Re: Beast Wars in War For Cybertron Part 3

Postby Sabrblade » Tue Jul 14, 2020 12:37 pm

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AllNewSuperRobot wrote:
AcademyofDrX wrote: and they have Quintessons and a Maximal and a Predacon, but no real through-line.

If you want to mix up or crossover product lines, I'm for it. But in this line, how, and why? I don't get it.



This has always been the problem with cherry picking from across the range. Some of them don't make sense in belonging next to others. Star Saber was as removed from Prowl as Botanica is from him. Throwing the whole toybox into a line without real context will ultimately just alienate/confuse.
But there was context for Cheetor and Sky-Byte. They weren't a Maximal and a Predacon among Autobots and Decepticons, they were just another Autobot and just another Decepticon who happened to turn into mechanical animals instead of vehicles, just like how Grimlock was also an Autobot who turned into a mechanical animal. Same goes for Thunderhowl and Hammerbyte later.
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Re: Beast Wars in War For Cybertron Part 3

Postby william-james88 » Tue Jul 14, 2020 12:38 pm

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TF-fan kev777 wrote:
ZeroWolf wrote:
AcademyofDrX wrote:
ZeroWolf wrote:Which part don't you get? Why there's beast wars characters
Or the story line?

Yes.

So you rather pure G1?


No, I'm guessing he is like me and just trying to make sense of something that is non-sensical and just to sell toys. Going from cybertroninan(-ish) models in Siege, to earth modes (plus Quintessons) in Earthrise, and now onto beast modes (with Rodimus) just doesn't seem to flow logically. But it doesn't need to follow logic, it just needs to sell toys.


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Re: Beast Wars in War For Cybertron Part 3

Postby King Kuuga » Tue Jul 14, 2020 3:09 pm

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All I can say about this is that the rumors sound cool and I'm cautiously optimistic, which is not something I ever thought I'd say about Beast Wars under Warden.
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Re: Beast Wars in War For Cybertron Part 3

Postby Verno » Thu Jul 16, 2020 4:29 am

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Re: Beast Wars in War For Cybertron Part 3

Postby ZeroWolf » Thu Jul 16, 2020 5:51 am

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The question is where the poster originated from :-?
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Re: Beast Wars in War For Cybertron Part 3

Postby Sabrblade » Thu Jul 16, 2020 5:56 am

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ZeroWolf wrote:The question is where the poster originated from :-?
This seems to be the source.
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Transformers WFC Kingdom Poster shows an Abundance of Beast Wars Characters

Postby william-james88 » Thu Jul 16, 2020 6:21 am

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The beasts are taking over! An image of the poster from the third part of the Transformers War for Cybertron trilogy has been found on Facebook. It further confirms the name Kingdom along with showing us loads of Beast Wars characters next to G1 mainstays Optimus Prime, Megatron and Bumblebee. All the Beast Wars characters are in their season 1 form adn include:

Optimus Primal
Cheetor
Airazor
Tigatron
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Blackarachnia
Scorponok
Rattrap

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Re: Beast Wars in War For Cybertron Part 3

Postby frogbat » Thu Jul 16, 2020 6:37 am

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Great for beast wars inclusions... and sounds like they thought of a narrative to make it work...

Hope that’s not a new prime...
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Re: Beast Wars in War For Cybertron Part 3

Postby Nemesis Maximo » Thu Jul 16, 2020 6:40 am

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Well well well...if they can actually do the Beast Wars Characters some justice, then I might just forgive John Warden for his GEEWUN assery.
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Re: Beast Wars in War For Cybertron Part 3

Postby Otaku-mus Prime » Thu Jul 16, 2020 7:04 am

Congrats to Beast Wars fans! I know it has been a long wait.
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Re: Beast Wars in War For Cybertron Part 3

Postby ZeroWolf » Thu Jul 16, 2020 7:10 am

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So I'm curious about the fact that rodimus prime was supposed to be up front and centre yet there's prime :-? Still things are looking good but let's bring on the toys!
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Re: Beast Wars in War For Cybertron Part 3

Postby Immortal Starscream » Thu Jul 16, 2020 7:13 am

I love how the art has a literal Galvatron\Megatron. no bw megs or roddy though...
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Re: Beast Wars in War For Cybertron Part 3

Postby Autobot N » Thu Jul 16, 2020 7:23 am

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Re: Beast Wars in War For Cybertron Part 3

Postby Beast Megatron » Thu Jul 16, 2020 7:28 am

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Beast Wars Megatron is also on the poster above Blackarachnia’s head. He’s in Tyrannosaurus rex mode with his head turned to the right.
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Re: Beast Wars in War For Cybertron Part 3

Postby WheelTracks » Thu Jul 16, 2020 7:29 am

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Re: Beast Wars in War For Cybertron Part 3

Postby WheelTracks » Thu Jul 16, 2020 7:31 am

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Autobot N wrote:Who's the bot in between Blackarachnia and Dinobot?

Scorponok!
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Re: Beast Wars in War For Cybertron Part 3

Postby Hellscream9999 » Thu Jul 16, 2020 8:09 am

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Tempering my expectations until I see some actual figures, but, I must say, seeing this, it does feel good :-D
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Re: Beast Wars in War For Cybertron Part 3

Postby GeekyGamer Gal » Thu Jul 16, 2020 8:12 am

Well, my wallet's going to be hurting. Nostalgia for the win!


Also, just mentioned it to the hubby, and I think I've just got the begrudging permission to break my annual "please don't buy anymore" amount. :-D
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Re: Beast Wars in War For Cybertron Part 3

Postby Treetop Maximus » Thu Jul 16, 2020 8:13 am

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Re: Beast Wars in War For Cybertron Part 3

Postby Autobot N » Thu Jul 16, 2020 8:14 am

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Re: Beast Wars in War For Cybertron Part 3

Postby Immortal Starscream » Thu Jul 16, 2020 8:18 am

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Couldn't tell what this was at first, but looking at it from a distance, it's definitely Megatron in T-Rex mode.


hard to be sure, zooming in ot it, it looks like cyclonus in jet mode, but looking at it zoomed out, it does look like a purple t-rex. Either would make me a happy pappy.
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