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by **icenemesis** » Mon Feb 21, 2011 12:26 pm

Out of curiosity what toy do you think has the best design and transformation. No bashing on movie, animated or unicron trilogy please.

News Credits: 3 · by **zodconvoy** » Mon Feb 21, 2011 12:49 pm

MP Optimus Prime.

News Credits: 1 · by **Skywarp64** » Mon Feb 21, 2011 12:57 pm

It's really impossible to give a right answer to this thread. The best toy out of 1,000's is purely a matter of opinion, to the point that nearly nobody agrees with one another on this topic. There's no single best, because the answer is too subjectible to the asker's opinion. The best toy ever is the one you personally like best.

by **icenemesis** » Mon Feb 21, 2011 1:04 pm

i am sort of looking for opinions.

by **shadowynne** » Mon Feb 21, 2011 1:36 pm

wow yeah big question. too many to chose from really.

i guess you need to work out what you mean by best.

for me i would say to be the best TF it would have to fit several criteria

bot mode free of alt mode kibble
alt mode free of bot kibble
a good representation of the character
an interesting or innotive transformation
good articulation in bot mode.

the masterpeice and universe classics seekers are pretty good and alternity optimus and megs are both good designs but all of the above have their shortcomings.

i myself think sidearm sideswipe from the HFTD line is pretty sweet as sidswipe is an awesome bot design he has integrated weapons, very little kibble and decent posability.

alot of the animated line have fantastic design and engineering. animated Blurr is worthy of note as he has an interesting transformation and has a great design.

i have always habored a love for good old G1 kickback, he has great articulation for G1 as well as being a cool figure all around.

there are many many others

as far what TF is the best though? man i wouldnt know where to start!

News Credits: 1 · by **Jesterhead** » Mon Feb 21, 2011 2:29 pm

Alternity Megs, and Alternity Convoy for me.

Nicely detailed car interiors, rubber tires, opening hood, opening doors, 1/32 scale, reflective mirrors, engine details, nicely hidden weapons, nice use of diecast parts, accurate real-world alt-modes, great transformation (love the shrinking chest gimmick), and epic time traveling fluff to back it all up!

The only downside imo, is the little bit of extra backpack kibble.

News Credits: 35 · by **Diem** » Mon Feb 21, 2011 2:38 pm

Jesterhead wrote:Alternity Megs, and Alternity Convoy for me.

Nicely detailed car interiors, rubber tires, opening hood, opening doors, 1/32 scale, reflective mirrors, engine details, nicely hidden weapons, nice use of diecast parts, accurate real-world alt-modes, great transformation (love the shrinking chest gimmick), and epic time traveling fluff to back it all up!

The only downside imo, is the little bit of extra backpack kibble.

I agree with this so hard.

News Credits: 3 · by **Kibble** » Mon Feb 21, 2011 2:45 pm

icenemesis wrote:Out of curiosity what toy do you think has the best design and transformation. No bashing on movie, animated or unicron trilogy please.

Can we still bash Beast Wars?

by **DJLazer** » Mon Feb 21, 2011 6:55 pm

To me its g1 soundwave.All colors are great and transformation is quick. Thats how i like it.

by **Valandar** » Mon Feb 21, 2011 7:14 pm

From a sheer engineering standpoint, RotF Leader Optimus Prime is one of the most amazing figures out there. They managed to almost exactly reproduce his on-screen counterpart, still make it transform, and have excellent articulation, at the expense of just a bit of back kibble that doesn't really get in the way. Considering that the toy designers had pretty much nothing to do with the overall concept and were trying to replicate something with tens of thousands of moving parts, that's pretty darn astounding.

I was also remarkably impressed with the Animated line. They successfully replicated the extremely stylized look of the show while still being able to transform AND still having solid vehicle modes.

And the entire Classics / Universe / Generations / Reveal the Shield classic line can't be beat. They managed to make characters with their classic (or updated in some cases) alt modes, and well proportioned, articulated robot modes inspired by basically animators "cheating" to make some of the most popular (among collectors at least) figures in many years.

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