sto_vo_kor_2000 wrote:Good to see you’re back
AllNewSuperRobot wrote:.
Megatron absorbs the spark of his namesake and... loses his Triple Changer form?? A downgrade? (we're not seriously including "dragster mode" as viable)
I think it counts as a third mode since it is listed on the toybox and instructions from what I recall correctly if I’m wrong though
Thanks!
It did feature in the instructions. But it's never been used, seen or acknowledged outside of them. Aside from the obvious question:
"why would a Flier need a car mode?"sto_vo_kor_2000 wrote:AllNewSuperRobot wrote:2)Regardless of toy design, was the idea that Prime's spark was more powerful than Megatron's? BW Megs didn't become a Quad-Former after all.
Two things first, primes spark was connected to the matrix And all the other “primes” that came before
Second, I was never convince it was the spark of G1 Megatron alone that caused BW Megatron’s body to mutate
Now I did consider the Matrix angle, but from visual evidence in
Optimal Situation, it is very sketchy and open to interpretation. Prime's Spark seems to be held in a "Matrix casing" as opposed to the Matrix itself. Note: Prime's spark leaves
The Matrix and it falls empty to the ground. Also note, no Maximal reacts to the sight of it, which could indicate it wasn't the Creation Matrix itself.
Likewise, Megatron's transformation is dubious, as you say. Look at the two of them. There were traces of Prime in Optimal Optimus, whereas TM 2 Megatron carries no overt audio or visual cue from his namesake. Also where did the basis for the Beast Mode come from??
ZeroWolf wrote:My idea that megs got an upgrade was that he mutated into a dragon (which raises a few questions mainly why it took that appearance) dragons are generally symbols of immense power after all but that aside it was strange unless it turned out that the original idea was a mutated t rex but I've got no proof of that, it's conjecture on my part.
Sabrblade wrote:The original idea that Forward and DiTillio were going with when the Optimal Optimus and Transmetal 2 Megatron upgrades came about was that they were each the result of Optimus Primal and Megatron, respectively, simply carrying two sparks in their bodies instead of just one. The addition of an extra spark in their bodies, which were not originally built to hold more than one, is what brought about their mutations.
Yes. So, assuming it was His spark alone, was Prime Spark supposed to be that much stronger than Megatron?
Let's look purely at the Tech Specs:
Immediately, there is a discrepancy between them and also how they were portrayed. Now the case can be made, Primal returned the spark of Prime and lost a sufficient boost in raw power, hence why he was often embarrassingly defeated in this form. That said, Megatron didn't display an overt "devastating" advantage. He simply wasn't hit as often.