Astrotrain87 wrote:does slash fiction count as ruined forever?
babylon queen wrote:I thought the first movie didn't help.
I still don't get the whole "Vehicles not beasts" argument. Alot of G1 characters were beasts. They were mechanical beasts but they were still beasts.Sledge wrote:As the older fans will remember, the Transformers franchise is regularly ruined FOREVER. Prowl being a motorbike is simply the latest thing that's doomed Hasbro to certain bankruptcy. Minicons, beast modes and Michael Bay have similarly raped our childhood in the past. But what I'm wondering is: what was the first thing to ruin Transformers? Was it Headmasters? Pretenders? Or something else? Opinions, please.
Saber Prime wrote:This includes one group who had been remade in one form or another into EVERY SINGLE TOY LINE TO DATE. The Dinobots! Of course they're not allways Dinosaurs but their names are offten used for other characters. RID Grimlock for example. Other incarnations of Snarl have been lions. ect.
Burn wrote:Saber Prime wrote:This includes one group who had been remade in one form or another into EVERY SINGLE TOY LINE TO DATE. The Dinobots! Of course they're not allways Dinosaurs but their names are offten used for other characters. RID Grimlock for example. Other incarnations of Snarl have been lions. ect.
Machine Wars?
I agree. There were a lot of things that were ruining Transformers around this time... however things were still salvageable until '88, when the whole goddamn thing got ruined forever. Transformers actually started to get messed up when they released figures like Powerglide, Cosmos, Perceptor and Blaster! I love all of these guys, but they don't look good in an AUTObot convoy. They should have all been Decepticons, or at least have had a good reason to be Autobots, like Skyfire and the Aerialbots.Wheeljack35 wrote:For me it was season 3 og G1
No Optimus, Megatron or Starscream we got Rodimus and the insane Megs known as Galvatron instead.
the feel of the first two seasons was gone
What topped it off was a few years later with the horrible Pretenders line
Burn wrote:Why did you drag up a discussion that was dead for nearly seven years?
MightyMagnus78 wrote:Ruined forever...
Sherade wrote:Let's see...waht ruined it...nothing.
I'm not some purist.
Although I stand for killing Wheelie.
1984forever wrote:Burn wrote:Why did you drag up a discussion that was dead for nearly seven years?
Because it is a topic of utmost importance! It was 7 years ago that Transformers actually went from ruined forever to ruined for infinity. People's childhood's were pretty much intact until... Bay. It's an anniversary of sorts.
ZeroWolf wrote:1984forever wrote:Burn wrote:Why did you drag up a discussion that was dead for nearly seven years?
Because it is a topic of utmost importance! It was 7 years ago that Transformers actually went from ruined forever to ruined for infinity. People's childhood's were pretty much intact until... Bay. It's an anniversary of sorts.
Shouldn't your hate be directed towards the writers of the movies and producers? Bay is just one man and the movies are a gesalt of the work of everyone involved. Also forever and infinity are the same
Also it's time the childhood memories being raped (I hate typing that word) thing to rest, no one involved with the movies has that power, the memories are still intact
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