The Energon Pub

Wed Jan 25, 2012 7:53 pm

Something I was pondering while looking at my Classics shelves. For you, is there a 'complete' set for you? Are there eras if released you wouldn't care to get them?

News Credits: 1 · Wed Jan 25, 2012 8:15 pm

Actually, I wondered the same thing and made a list just for myself.

I'm really only interested in Season1 up to and especially including the movie. And I'm fine with including other lines like Energon and 3rd party products in my Neo-G1 collection. So that leaves:

Hauler *
Hoist
Skids
Huffer
Gears
Devcon *
Chromia *
Moonracer *
Firestar *
Elita One *
Alpha Trion *
Dion *
Slag
Sludge
Snarl
Streetwise
Groove
First Aid
Hot Spot
Blades
Defensor
Steeljaw
Ramhorn
Laserbeak
Buzzsaw
Motormaster
Dead End
Breakdown
Drag Strip
Wildrider
Menasor
Shockwave
Blitzwing
Ratbat
Gnaw

The ones with asterixis are toon only and don't really count towards completion for me ... but would be nice to have. Also, this is my own PERSONAL list and it's set to my own personal standards. For instance PE made Lazer, Buzzer, and Kingbat .... but I'm not very keen on them to represent Lazerbeak, Buzzsaw, and Ratbat. And ditto Energon Shockblast for Shockwave, BTW. And it also includes guys I don't have for instance: Botcon Alpha Trion would count, but I don't have him, so on the list he goes!

News Credits: 5 · Wed Jan 25, 2012 8:34 pm

When I'm dead.

News Credits: 104 · Wed Jan 25, 2012 8:38 pm

zodconvoy wrote:When I'm dead.

Yeah, I am down with this.. Classics would be complete when they release a remodeled version of pretty much every G1 Tf.. Including Headmasters and Pretenders.

News Credits: 402 · Updated Oct 21, 2022

My classics will be completedwhen Hasbor either
a - Throws up their hands and say "we've made EVEYTHING into Classics; there's nothing more we can do
b - When Hasbro goes bankrupt
c - When general anarchy sets in making my immediate survival far more important than pieces of plastic.

News Credits: 60 · Wed Jan 25, 2012 10:12 pm

I would just love to se the classics line survive... I mean I really dont have a point where I say... thats it... its now complete... but I would love to see the whole of gen 1 created in classics... including the Jap charactres... I would also love to see some plastic love for more characteres who didnt get figs like Impactor of the Fembots

Wed Jan 25, 2012 10:12 pm

For me, when it includes all the featured characters from the pre-1986-movie seasons of Transformers the cartoon, at a size appropriate to the character but no less than Scout. (Anything less and articulation goes out the window.)

The 1986 movie was the downfall of Transformers in the '80s and I couldn't care less about most of the characters that were introduced in or after it. I'll take'em if the toys are cool, but I would be completely happy with a decent set of Dinobots, Constructicons, Optimus, Megatron, and the rest of the earliest Autobots and Decepticons.

The chances of that ever happening? Next to nil. But if it does, I'd seriously consider selling everything I own from other lines and ending my collection right there.

News Credits: 8 · Wed Jan 25, 2012 10:29 pm

zodconvoy wrote:When I'm dead.

precisely.

I know this won't answer the question but on thing that made me dive into this line was the sheer prospect of it being continuous line. we have the character from G1. then along the way, there's also from other source (comic, etc).

Wed Jan 25, 2012 11:14 pm

Never! the pool of resources theere is for Classics figures to be drawn from is bottomless. THe bastards just need to step the game up and get em out there! Life is short. At this rate i'll see a Trailbreaker when i'm 80 for christs sake!
It's not rocket surgery Hasbro. Get on it. It doesn't take a brain scientist to figure that one out.
Know what i mean?

News Credits: 8 · Wed Jan 25, 2012 11:29 pm

When I move on to my next addiction.

Thu Jan 26, 2012 1:48 am

monstergrotusque wrote:Never! the pool of resources theere is for Classics figures to be drawn from is bottomless. THe bastards just need to step the game up and get em out there! Life is short. At this rate i'll see a Trailbreaker when i'm 80 for christs sake!
It's not rocket surgery Hasbro. Get on it. It doesn't take a brain scientist to figure that one out.
Know what i mean?

I'm glad I wasn't eating or drinking when I read this - I'd have choked.

And yes... I agree with every word :3

Thu Jan 26, 2012 8:37 am

I don't know that it will ever be "complete," but I am getting some nice sub-collections completed in my Classics line. (And note, while Has/Tak prefered, third parties are welcome to apply.)

This isn't all of my "Classics," but here's a few pics.

Autobots, season 1:

A larger Trailbreaker would be prefered, and he will be replaced if they ever make one. Also, need a Gears. Other then that, I am happy with this little collection. (Oh, and Grapple is subbing for Hauler, here.)

Decepticons, season 1:

Autobots, the movie:

I do have a Classics Grimlock, but I think the Masterpiece, in Dino-mode, scales a bit better with these guys. So I tend to have Classics Grimlock hang out with my pre-movie guys.

Decepticons (and Unicron), the movie:

Not something I consider a seperate collection (since some of these are needed in the above groups) but as a bonus picture, I bring you...

Battle of the Legends Class!

Fighting for dominion over my girlfriend's dining room table!

News Credits: 4 · Thu Jan 26, 2012 9:02 am

A "complete" Classics collection would, to me, include versions of each character from the G1 toyline, in similar scale to their original releases AND each character from the G1 cartoon, in scale to their appearance on-screen AND repaints where necessary, or new molds or remolds to bring us all the characters from the comics as well. Humans in Human Alliance size, as well as GI Joe scaled figures for the lines of Spike, Circuit Breaker, Daniel and the other more important humanoid characters from the toon and comics. A full collection of the Beast Wars cartoon cast, in each of their different forms, in 2 scales, Legends/Cyberverse sized ones to fit with the G1 Classics, and Basic/Deluxe/Voyager sized ones to work on their own. Ark, Axalon and Darksyde playets for the Cyberverse BW guys too.

Also, pick up other characters from the other lines and update them as well. and any new guys that get thought up. and a pony. and...the list goes on.

News Credits: 1 · Thu Jan 26, 2012 10:26 am

When they have released Soundwave, Shockwave and Blitzwing. :BANG_HEAD:

Thu Jan 26, 2012 10:32 am

Flakmaster wrote:When they have released Soundwave, Shockwave and Blitzwing.

Well, a "Classics" style Soundwave can be yours if you don't mind going third party (Sonicron) or bringing in an expensive import from another line (Music Label Soundwave, see the pic I posted above.) Not that I'd complain if an actual Classics style Soundwave came out...

I will also strongly agree on Shockwave (although it would have not been my ideal, I'm surprised they never tried a repaint/retool of Classics Megatron for this) and Blitzwing. Especially Blitzwing. Now that we finally have all six main Seekers, how about giving us the third Decepticon Tripple Changer, Hasbro?

News Credits: 1 · Thu Jan 26, 2012 10:55 am

I think Generations Soundwave counts as their Classics release. Or even G1 Soundwave. If I didn't have Label Soundwave and Sonirun on the way I'd have bough the Generations release.

But I'll third Shockwave and Blitzwing! I think we're close to a Shockwave release seeing as he was in Animated and RotF, but ... you never know, really.

Edit:
You know, being "complete" is different from being "perfect". They could easily make better figures of, say, Galvatron or Octane ... but those figures are still done.

Thu Jan 26, 2012 11:17 am

Gauntlet101010 wrote:You know, being "complete" is different from being "perfect". They could easily make better figures of, say, Galvatron or Octane ... but those figures are still done.

I would certainly love a better Classics Galvatron! I really need to review him for my website one of these days, as most everything has been pretty gushingly good thus far (can I help it if I tend to try and be sure I'll like a figure before I buy it?) and I'd hate people to think I can say no ill of any of these toys, ha ha. Don't get me wrong, once you pose him, put him on a shelf, and leave him alone he's not bad. But Classics Galvatron is utter fail as a toy.

Thu Jan 26, 2012 11:49 am

classics galvatron has everything going for him.....the looks, the transformation, the poseability......just ONE thing wrong......hes the same size as bumblebee! WTF ARE YOU THINKING HASBRO! sorry....im ranting a little bit here. galvatron looks awesome. he is just too small. hotrod(not even talking rodimus) would rape him.....BAD. agreed with galvatron=epic fail.

im just hoping they make a classics metroplex and classics fort max. that would complete it for me.

News Credits: 1 · Thu Jan 26, 2012 11:57 am

I think you may as well get TF Cybertron Metroplex. I got Energon Omega Supreme after realizing that neither Hasbro nor a 3rd party will never make a better OS, nor will they ever likely reissue the Energon one in G1 colors (since he's supposed to interact with Prime).

As a Galvy fan, I would not say no to a new version of that guy. But after getting Superlink Galvy I think I'm good. Energon Galvy is also nice .... but he's hanging out with MP Roddy right now and I like him there.

News Credits: 273 · Thu Jan 26, 2012 12:31 pm

Gauntlet101010 wrote:Actually, I wondered the same thing and made a list just for myself.

I'm really only interested in Season1 up to and especially including the movie. And I'm fine with including other lines like Energon and 3rd party products in my Neo-G1 collection. So that leaves:

Hauler *
Hoist
Skids
Huffer
Gears
Devcon *
Chromia *
Moonracer *
Firestar *
Elita One *
Alpha Trion *
Dion *
Slag
Sludge
Snarl
Streetwise
Groove
First Aid
Hot Spot
Blades
Defensor
Steeljaw
Ramhorn
Laserbeak
Buzzsaw
Motormaster
Dead End
Breakdown
Drag Strip
Wildrider
Menasor
Shockwave
Blitzwing
Ratbat
Gnaw

The ones with asterixis are toon only and don't really count towards completion for me ... but would be nice to have. Also, this is my own PERSONAL list and it's set to my own personal standards. For instance PE made Lazer, Buzzer, and Kingbat .... but I'm not very keen on them to represent Lazerbeak, Buzzsaw, and Ratbat. And ditto Energon Shockblast for Shockwave, BTW. And it also includes guys I don't have for instance: Botcon Alpha Trion would count, but I don't have him, so on the list he goes!

There are a couple relatively affordable pieces that will fill some of those gaps.

Hoist (ROTF from the 2-pack with Mixmaster)
Hotspot (Titanium Hotzone is beyond awesome)
Blades (he's a little big but that's who he is supposed to be)
Lazerbeak (I forget his name but there is a Real Gear toy from the first or second movie line that makes a kickass Lazerbeak)

There are a few other easy fixes out there that are a bit pricier.

Thu Jan 26, 2012 12:35 pm

Delicon wrote:Lazerbeak (I forget his name but there is a Real Gear toy from the first or second movie line that makes a kickass Lazerbeak)

The first movie. You can see him in my post above, and I also included him in a "Soundwave & Minions" review I wrote for my website.

News Credits: 1 · Thu Jan 26, 2012 12:54 pm

Delicon wrote:
There are a couple relatively affordable pieces that will fill some of those gaps.

Hoist (ROTF from the 2-pack with Mixmaster)
Hotspot (Titanium Hotzone is beyond awesome)
Blades (he's a little big but that's who he is supposed to be)
Lazerbeak (I forget his name but there is a Real Gear toy from the first or second movie line that makes a kickass Lazerbeak)

There are a few other easy fixes out there that are a bit pricier.

I know of those, but they just don't cut the mustard for me. Although that Real Gear "Lazerbeak" did double as a MP Lazerbeak and perched on MP Megs for a time.

Any Neo-G1 combiner member for me HAS to combine. They just do. Which is also why none of the Stunticons that have come out "count" for my list (although I do own Blades and Botcon Breakdown).

Although, to be honest, I have considered getting RotF Hoist as "my" Hoist. Like Seaspray or Powerglide I have no special connection to that guy ... I just didn't get him because you have to get Mixmaster, who I have no use for.

News Credits: 3 · Thu Jan 26, 2012 1:31 pm

For me, it's complete when I have all the figures/characters I want for a G1/Classics Cast on both sides.

If that means I need to do some customs(G1 colored Breakdown) or use 3rd party figures(Laserbeak, Ratbat, Rumble, Frenzy, Insecticons, etc.), so be it.

Thu Jan 26, 2012 3:54 pm

I've said it before, and if hasbro is listening, give me the cancelled titanium Shockwave and Arcee and i will be happy. They would fit in perfectly. I also want G1 version of energon Scoponok!

News Credits: 1 · Thu Jan 26, 2012 4:08 pm

Really? Titanium Arcee? I suppose she'd fit as an official Arcee, but just looking at her makes me think that's about all she'd be good for.

But I can stand behind Shockwave. Still, I think there's hope for another version of him. Or resorting to the Energon version .... if you have to.