How on Earth was Cybertron Optimus Prime weak? In fact, how was anyone in that show weak? The entire cast was always summoning immense boots of power and energy all Super Saiyan style all the time, and I'm not even talking about the Cyber Keys or the combinations. Seriously, that show was the one that did Burning Justice so often like it was going out of style or something. Everyone there would boost up their power levels Over 9000 on a regular basis that to call any them weak would be a far cry from reality.TurboMMaster wrote:Two weakest Primes (Cybertron & Bayforemrs) killed Megatrons, despite beign inferior to them in combat.
Shadowman wrote:This is Sabrblade we're talking about. His ability to store trivial information about TV shows is downright superhuman.
Caelus wrote:My wife pointed out something interesting about the prehistoric Predacons. I said that everyone was complaining because transforming for them mostly consisted of them just standing up-right. She essentially said, 'So? That's what our ancestors did.'
TurboMMaster wrote:While I understand that people like him, but I don't get it why so many people belive he is a superior Megatron. I mean LOL, he's alt-mode is completly unpractical and humiliating, most of the time he's butt is kicked by Prime with ease. He once was defeated by by a can of spray paint. Pretty much all of he's plans in original cartoon end with failure. Actually, the only time he seems to be a ruthless warrior and good tactician is in Transformers: Movie. I don't undersand why he supossed to be any bether than other Megatrons...
fenrir72 wrote:In the opening theme of season 1, just before the end of "..transformers.........more than...........the transformers.........." iirc Megs does fire by himself in gun mode. If the opening scene counts that is.......
Only by the power of off-screen plot convenience, as prior to then we had 65 episodes of loss after loss after loss each time.fenrir72 wrote:In the year 2005, he did managed to conquer the entire planet of Cybertron. Hence initiating the events of TF the Movie where Ironhide asks Prime "when are we gonna start busting deceptichops?"
Shadowman wrote:This is Sabrblade we're talking about. His ability to store trivial information about TV shows is downright superhuman.
Caelus wrote:My wife pointed out something interesting about the prehistoric Predacons. I said that everyone was complaining because transforming for them mostly consisted of them just standing up-right. She essentially said, 'So? That's what our ancestors did.'
MightyMagnus78 wrote:Nothing Hasbro does surprises me anymore, their ineptitude is legendary!
Burn wrote:Shadowstream wrote:It's quite clear they dun dropped the ball, but did they have to drop it so far and so hard?
It's FunPub. It's their specialty.
Shadowstream wrote:For those noting his gun mode issue, here's this
Take from this what you will...
tfparodies wrote:Wow, I don't know what game that is, but it looks pretty awful and the voices are horrible.
Rodimus Prime wrote:tfparodies wrote:Wow, I don't know what game that is, but it looks pretty awful and the voices are horrible.
It's called Transformers Tatakai (sp?) and it was exclusive to Japan for the PS2 I believe. I never played it but have seen game footage on YouTube and yeah, it's pretty bad.
MightyMagnus78 wrote:Nothing Hasbro does surprises me anymore, their ineptitude is legendary!
Burn wrote:Shadowstream wrote:It's quite clear they dun dropped the ball, but did they have to drop it so far and so hard?
It's FunPub. It's their specialty.
I Agree, it is funny how people ALWAYS are usING argument FOR Megatron's succes in G1, yet in Bayformers Decepticons are pathetic and fact that they conquer Cybertron with ease, killed most of Autobots and humiliate Optimus is completly ignored.Sabrblade wrote:Only by the power of off-screen plot convenience, as prior to then we had 65 episodes of loss after loss after loss each time.fenrir72 wrote:In the year 2005, he did managed to conquer the entire planet of Cybertron. Hence initiating the events of TF the Movie where Ironhide asks Prime "when are we gonna start busting deceptichops?"
Shadowstream wrote:it's not a good game, but then what TF game is?
Rodimus Prime wrote:Shadowstream wrote:it's not a good game, but then what TF game is?
The PS2 Armada game. Better than WFC/FOC. I still play it to this day. Unending amounts of fun.
MightyMagnus78 wrote:Nothing Hasbro does surprises me anymore, their ineptitude is legendary!
Burn wrote:Shadowstream wrote:It's quite clear they dun dropped the ball, but did they have to drop it so far and so hard?
It's FunPub. It's their specialty.
Shadowstream wrote:Rodimus Prime wrote:Shadowstream wrote:it's not a good game, but then what TF game is?
The PS2 Armada game. Better than WFC/FOC. I still play it to this day. Unending amounts of fun.
I find all those games equally tedious for the amount of fun you get out of them. "Armada" has only 3 characters and they're all Autobots, across 7 levels there are only 4 environment types, searching for mini-cons and data-cons in the ridiculously huge expanses of level is a chore, and the difficulty ranges from hard to "f*ck you". Compare to the all the power-ups, multiple ways of getting from point a to b, and cool boss fights, I don't think the pros outweigh the cons any more than any other TF game without breaking out the cheat codes.
On topic, I really don't think anyone should give an 80's cartoon villain anything short of a grain of respect, if that's the form of Megatron we're basing this off of. As for my personal favorites I'll go for Beast Era Megatron, and Animated Megatron, the latter of whom is the only Megatron I ever thought was legitimately scary.
He's as much the Megatron of BW and BM as any Megatron is of their series. The only difference that arose with him was his series existing in a continuity family that already had a separate Megatron in it.njb902 wrote:I'm not sure we should count Beast Wars Megatron in this discussion, he isn't a representation of Megatron he just took the name.
Shadowman wrote:This is Sabrblade we're talking about. His ability to store trivial information about TV shows is downright superhuman.
Caelus wrote:My wife pointed out something interesting about the prehistoric Predacons. I said that everyone was complaining because transforming for them mostly consisted of them just standing up-right. She essentially said, 'So? That's what our ancestors did.'
Sabrblade wrote:He's as much the Megatron of BW and BM as any Megatron is of their series. The only difference that arose with him was his series existing in a continuity family that already had a separate Megatron in it.njb902 wrote:I'm not sure we should count Beast Wars Megatron in this discussion, he isn't a representation of Megatron he just took the name.
Then again, G1 had two Barrages and two Sky Highs. G1 and G2 together had two Smokescreens, two Eagle Eyes, two Deluges, two Afterburners, two Jetstorms, two Dreadwings, two Sureshots, and two Drenches.
True, but nor is any other Megatron. All iterations of G1 Megatron would be like the cartoon iteration, the Marvel iteration, the Dreamwave iteration, the IDW iteration, etc. etc.njb902 wrote:Lots of "people" have the same name. I'm just saying that Beast Wars Megatron isn't a iteration of G1 Megatron.
Shadowman wrote:This is Sabrblade we're talking about. His ability to store trivial information about TV shows is downright superhuman.
Caelus wrote:My wife pointed out something interesting about the prehistoric Predacons. I said that everyone was complaining because transforming for them mostly consisted of them just standing up-right. She essentially said, 'So? That's what our ancestors did.'
Sabrblade wrote:True, but nor is any other Megatron. All iterations of G1 Megatron would be like the cartoon iteration, the Marvel iteration, the Dreamwave iteration, the IDW iteration, etc. etc.njb902 wrote:Lots of "people" have the same name. I'm just saying that Beast Wars Megatron isn't a iteration of G1 Megatron.
But for Beast Megatron, he was conceived as the Megatron of his two series.
It's a case like how Tidal Wave was the Shockwave of Armada, but Shockblast was the Shockwave of Energon, despite their being two different people existing in the same continity.
I'm just kiddin' around with ya, sheesh.njb902 wrote:Sabrblade wrote:True, but nor is any other Megatron. All iterations of G1 Megatron would be like the cartoon iteration, the Marvel iteration, the Dreamwave iteration, the IDW iteration, etc. etc.njb902 wrote:Lots of "people" have the same name. I'm just saying that Beast Wars Megatron isn't a iteration of G1 Megatron.
But for Beast Megatron, he was conceived as the Megatron of his two series.
It's a case like how Tidal Wave was the Shockwave of Armada, but Shockblast was the Shockwave of Energon, despite their being two different people existing in the same continity.
Sigh, I hate arguing with you. You win, I'm wrong.
Shadowman wrote:This is Sabrblade we're talking about. His ability to store trivial information about TV shows is downright superhuman.
Caelus wrote:My wife pointed out something interesting about the prehistoric Predacons. I said that everyone was complaining because transforming for them mostly consisted of them just standing up-right. She essentially said, 'So? That's what our ancestors did.'
Henry921 wrote:You can always be counted on to listen to reason, Pryme.
Dead Metal wrote:Have you ever, and i mean ever seen/read/heard something that is completely original and does not copy/homage/pay tribute to something else? Here's a hint: Nope. You never have and you never will.
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