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Re: X-Men First Class

Postby amcgrath929 » Tue Jun 07, 2011 10:12 pm

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amcgrath929 wrote:Only fail I can think of was Angel.

All things considered, would you have preferred her as a mom with a bird boyfriend and six feathered fly babies?


Nah, they could have just given her a different name considering you know, she didn't resemble the Angel character whatsoever.
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Re: X-Men First Class

Postby Blurrz » Tue Jun 07, 2011 10:35 pm

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amcgrath929 wrote:Nah, they could have just given her a different name considering you know, she didn't resemble the Angel character whatsoever.


She's Angel Salvadore, or Angel, who is far different from Angel/Archangel. I believe it was a poor choice to have her in the movie considering she was a character who was created in 2001, but I guess they needed another female character to contrast with Raven. Anyhow I think Pixie > Angel Salvadore.
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Re: X-Men First Class

Postby amcgrath929 » Tue Jun 07, 2011 10:38 pm

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amcgrath929 wrote:Nah, they could have just given her a different name considering you know, she didn't resemble the Angel character whatsoever.


She's Angel Salvadore, or Angel, who is far different from Angel/Archangel.


Wasn't the Angel/Archangel in the X-Men first class comics though?

I thought it was just an odd choice considering there are many others they could have chosen.
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Re: X-Men First Class

Postby Blurrz » Tue Jun 07, 2011 11:04 pm

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amcgrath929 wrote:Nah, they could have just given her a different name considering you know, she didn't resemble the Angel character whatsoever.


She's Angel Salvadore, or Angel, who is far different from Angel/Archangel.


Wasn't the Angel/Archangel in the X-Men first class comics though?

I thought it was just an odd choice considering there are many others they could have chosen.


Yes, he was a prominent character in the first beginnings of the X-Men. Cyclops, Beast, Iceman, Angel/Archangel and Jean Grey are the first five x-men.
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Re: X-Men First Class

Postby amcgrath929 » Tue Jun 07, 2011 11:07 pm

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amcgrath929 wrote:Nah, they could have just given her a different name considering you know, she didn't resemble the Angel character whatsoever.


She's Angel Salvadore, or Angel, who is far different from Angel/Archangel.


Wasn't the Angel/Archangel in the X-Men first class comics though?

I thought it was just an odd choice considering there are many others they could have chosen.


Yes, he was a prominent character in the first beginnings of the X-Men. Cyclops, Beast, Iceman, Angel/Archangel and Jean Grey are the first five x-men.


That's what I thought.
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Re: X-Men First Class

Postby Starscream GaGa » Tue Jun 07, 2011 11:20 pm

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Yeah, the Angel in First class is named that because of her first name; Angel Salvadore, not because she's anything related to Warren Worthington's Angel/ArchAngel
I didn't mind her, I thought it was a completely random choice of character, I mean, not many people even liked New X-Men and Angel Salvadore isn't really important or well known, but I think they handled her well and by the end I didn't feel like I didn't want her to be there.

Personally though, I would've cast Kate Vernon as Emma Frost. I mean, she SCREAMS the role.
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Re: X-Men First Class

Postby Overcracker » Mon Jun 13, 2011 1:31 pm

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I liked the movie much better than the last two entries into this series. LAst Stand and Wolverine were quite bad. Last Stand more so. Wolverine suffered most from what appeared to be unfinished special effects, specially noticeable in the bathroom scene.

But last stand was just very disjointed and incoherent in its story telling, and for no apparent reason kills off 2 of the major players in the franchise, and moves on as if nothing has happened.

I agree that the producers for this one simply made this movie to be a prequel to X-Men and X-Men United, and ignored Last Stand and Wolverine all together. Which is a good thing, a very good thing.

I think it was a very good movie, not on par with Dark Knight but that's a tough act to follow so no worries there.

The movie manages to intertwine actual historical events with the X-Men mythos quite well. I had fun overall even if it was a 2 and half hour movie.

As far as Angel Salvatore, yes she has nothing to do with the Warren Worthington Angel from the comics who was part of the original team.

I did enjoy the small cameos by Rebecca Romjin and Hugh Jackman, by the way his remark was just awesome.

My only real gripe is with the Alex Summers character, seeing as he is supposed to be Scott's younger brother it kind of kills off that relationship completely. Perhaps they'll turn him into a hybrid of Alex and Corsair a.k.a Christopher Summers (their father). Considering the first X-Men movie was released in 2000 as was supposed to be set in the near future. Lets call the near future 2005 maybe 2010 tops, and making Cyclops about 25 or 30 years old puts him to be born around 1980, ample time for Alex Summers from the 1960's to get a girlfriend and procreate.
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Re: X-Men First Class

Postby Blurrz » Mon Jun 13, 2011 2:36 pm

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IIRC, the Director stated that Alex won't be Scott's brother, but they'll be related in some fashion to show that they are 'related'. Or something like that.

Cousins, perhaps?
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Re: X-Men First Class

Postby amcgrath929 » Mon Jun 13, 2011 7:56 pm

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Blurrz wrote:IIRC, the Director stated that Alex won't be Scott's brother, but they'll be related in some fashion to show that they are 'related'. Or something like that.

Cousins, perhaps?


That's a bummer really. It's a shame that out of all of the mutants inside of the Marvel Universe, they can't avoid things like this.
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Re: X-Men First Class

Postby Rodimus Prime » Mon Jun 13, 2011 10:40 pm

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Not the best in the series, but I liked it for what it was. I liked that it was set in the 60s (the same time humans were discovering TFs on the moon :P ) and the elaboration on Magneto's development. The best thing was, of course, Wolverine's scene, and my biggest gripe was Sebastian Shaw. Not Kevin bacon, he was awesome like he is in everything else, but I am a fan of the Dark Phoenix comic story, and Sebastian Shaw is NOT what he was portrayed as in the movie. Doesn't look like that or act like that. It's kind of a sticking point with me, because I am fond of him as a villain. I'll get over it. Overall, good summer fun, hell of a lot better than Thor.
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