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zodconvoy wrote:

megatronus wrote:That seems awfully cynical.

In the real world, sure, Takara has to balance their ability to acquire official licenses with the need to crank out characters with easy repaint opportunities. I'd be very surprised if we didn't see a Slicer redeco out of Wheeljack.

Still, I think it's pretty ridiculous to say that Takara doesn't have a vision for the line.

Let's take a quick look at the line since the new Optimus shall we?

MP-10 Optimus Prime
MP-10B Black Convoy
MP-10A BAPE Convoy (the green one)
MP-10E Eva Convoy (the purple one)
MP-11 Starscream
MP-11S Sunstorm
MP-11A Acid Storm
MP-12 Sideswipe
MP-12T Tigertrack
MP-12G G2 Sideswipe
MP-13 Soundwave & Laserbeak
MP-13B Soundblaster & Ratbat
MP-14 Red Alert
MP-15 Rumble & Ravage
MP-16 Frenzy & Buzzsaw
MP-17 Prowl
MP-18 Bluestreak
MP-18S Silverstreak
MP-19 Smokescreen

That's 20 releases, 8 new molds (counting each cassette individually), 1 completely overhauled mold, and 14 repaints. And that's not counting Black Rodimus, Grimlock and Megatron reissues, American releases, upcoming releases like Skywarp, and all the various other times things have been put out again.

Wait, are you taking issue with Red Alert being a redeco/retool of Sideswipe, or Bluestreak and Smokescreen being a redeco of Prowl? Those figures may share a mold, but they are different characters that are part of the original crew, so why knock them as mere 'repaints'?

Also, Acid Storm was a US release, and all the other oddities outside of Black Convoy and G2 Sideswipe (which are just FUN) are exclusives of one kind or another.

It may take a while to get to everyone, sure, but they're using those odd ducks strategically to get what marginal use they can before moving on, which helps generate more money to use to buy new licenses, cover engineering costs, etc.

You look at that list and see repaints. I look at the list, realize the reboot started a mere 3ish years ago, and think "Holy Cow! They've covered a lot of ground!" Seems like they have a vision and direction to me.

megatronus wrote:You look at that list and see repaints. I look at the list, realize the reboot started a mere 3ish years ago, and think "Holy Cow! They've covered a lot of ground!" Seems like they have a vision and direction to me.

especially since when the line began we got what, one figure a year?

megatronus wrote:

shajaki wrote:

rpetras wrote:

megatronus wrote:

Gurgintius Maximus wrote:Also with the gold release it strikes me as a "here's your Megatron." Would they put that out and turn around and update the figure? ...

I'm not sure the gold release is "here's your Megatron" as much as it is "here's your last chance at this Megatron."

At least, that's what we're hoping for.

That's what I think it is.
They did the same with the MP-01 mold right before releasing MP-10.

My guess is Megatron, or at least pics and preorders for him, will show up next year.

id put my money on takara releasing a shadowy teaser once apollyon is in his final stages of production.

Yes... yes... the Acoustic Wave gambit...

Think some of you guys might be over looking, The new and improved Megatron Factor, Which is Galvatron. Takara's answer to another MP Megatron might just be a MP Galvatron toy, Since they are the same guy.

Seriously Think a MP Galvatron is next on the list, As he can fight against MP-09, MP-10 and MP-22.

Tsutsukakushi wrote:Think some of you guys might be over looking, The new and improved Megatron Factor, Which is Galvatron. Takara's answer to another MP Megatron might just be a MP Galvatron toy, Since they are the same guy.

Seriously Think a MP Galvatron is next on the list, As he can fight against MP-09, MP-10 and MP-22.

while i disagree, i would wet myself if an MP galvatron were revealed.

shajaki wrote:

Tsutsukakushi wrote:Think some of you guys might be over looking, The new and improved Megatron Factor, Which is Galvatron. Takara's answer to another MP Megatron might just be a MP Galvatron toy, Since they are the same guy.

Seriously Think a MP Galvatron is next on the list, As he can fight against MP-09, MP-10 and MP-22.

while i disagree, i would wet myself if an MP galvatron were revealed.

Galvatron is no replacement for Megatron, just as Megatron is no replacement for Galvatron. That said...

The die-cast Reflector is not going to be the MP Reflector, it's an accessory. If it was, then by that logic we would never have gotten an MP Megatron, because, you know, MP01 came with that tiny gun-mode Megatron as an accessory.
And the majority of repaints/ remolds we've gotten are characters who have always been repaints and remolds or shared the same mold.

I'm not really big into 3rd party stuff. I mean I have a few 3rd party items, but I'm usually a stickler for the official stuff. However, this looks damn good!I hear it's got more die-cast in it than the MP-05 ever did. I hope the die-cast is in areas that would otherwise be frail if they were plastic.

My only question is, why die cast in the gun barrel? couldn't that be plastic? Not that I'm griping, it just seems like that would add to balance issues.

Digging those big ass die cast feet! And the over all design

ALL HAIL MEGATRON!

Takara is going to be very, very hard-pressed to match that face sculpt. It's so spot on.

Also, the midriff is looking surprisingly thin from the side.

Great newer pics, This toy looks better in color than I ever thought it would.

Autobot Genocide wrote:

This is so bought.

I'm going to have a hardon for a month.

It looks amazing!

How come 3P Transformers never have insignias? They already look like the official characters anyway.

megatronus wrote:Takara is going to be very, very hard-pressed to match that face sculpt. It's so spot on.

Also, the midriff is looking surprisingly thin from the side.

10000% on both those points.

megatronus, im going to pretend youre a priest for a moment and confess something. im contemplating getting some 3P MP's. the more paranoid part of me has been thinking what if takara doesnt actually make these figures? if it never happens, these 3P figures will be a nightmare to find, and have nightmarish prices as well. what im thinking of doing is getting apollyon, quakewave and transistor, and maybe not even opening them. just having them as a "just in case", and id replace them with the real thing in a heartbeat.

are you feeling any of this? im close to the breaking point. mostly on quakewave.

shajaki wrote:

megatronus wrote:Takara is going to be very, very hard-pressed to match that face sculpt. It's so spot on.

Also, the midriff is looking surprisingly thin from the side.

10000% on both those points.

megatronus, im going to pretend youre a priest for a moment and confess something. im contemplating getting some 3P MP's. the more paranoid part of me has been thinking what if takara doesnt actually make these figures? if it never happens, these 3P figures will be a nightmare to find, and have nightmarish prices as well. what im thinking of doing is getting apollyon, quakewave and transistor, and maybe not even opening them. just having them as a "just in case", and id replace them with the real thing in a heartbeat.

are you feeling any of this? im close to the breaking point. mostly on quakewave.

I'm Jewish, so think of me as a Rabbi

I'm strictest on MP KOs, and my feelings on that are very clear/well-known.

3rd Party MPs are a bit different. They're still not my cup of tea, BUT, I wouldn't feel as bad about getting them if my intention was to replace them with official product down the road.

Also, keep in mind that the flip side of them going up in crazy value if we don't get official MPs of those characters, is that they will be next to worthless if those characters do come out in an official capacity.

megatronus wrote:

shajaki wrote:

megatronus wrote:Takara is going to be very, very hard-pressed to match that face sculpt. It's so spot on.

Also, the midriff is looking surprisingly thin from the side.

10000% on both those points.

megatronus, im going to pretend youre a priest for a moment and confess something. im contemplating getting some 3P MP's. the more paranoid part of me has been thinking what if takara doesnt actually make these figures? if it never happens, these 3P figures will be a nightmare to find, and have nightmarish prices as well. what im thinking of doing is getting apollyon, quakewave and transistor, and maybe not even opening them. just having them as a "just in case", and id replace them with the real thing in a heartbeat.

are you feeling any of this? im close to the breaking point. mostly on quakewave.

I'm Jewish, so think of me as a Rabbi

I'm strictest on MP KOs, and my feelings on that are very clear/well-known.

3rd Party MPs are a bit different. They're still not my cup of tea, BUT, I wouldn't feel as bad about getting them if my intention was to replace them with official product down the road.

Also, keep in mind that the flip side of them going up in crazy value if we don't get official MPs of those characters, is that they will be next to worthless if those characters do come out in an official capacity.

ok rabbi!
totally aware of that fact. its pretty rare that i buy anything with the intent of reselling. in fact the only time ive really dont that is with that MP grimlock in my sig cause it was on sale.

im not as worried about megatron and blaster, but if the rumors are true about not having the rights to the shockwave mold are true, that worries me. but at the same time, how hard (or expensive) can it be to acquire a license? i mean, they get car licenses (like VW and lambo) and i have a difficult time picturing shockwave's license being "impossible" to acquire.

Okay, this thing looks really good. I am tempted...

megatronus wrote:Takara is going to be very, very hard-pressed to match that face sculpt. It's so spot on.

Also, the midriff is looking surprisingly thin from the side.

I'm guessing it has to collapse into the chest for transformation. Not a lot of room there if they are going to keep relative gun proportions...

He just looks so damned solid, unlike the MP-05 Pussytron who was to frail to fight MP-01.

Yeah it's won me over , i pre ordered . Mainly because my fiancee got me Asia Ex MP10 for my bday this month

Man I love this one. Much better than the Takara Megs. Its settled for me. Easy pre-order. You guys are really, really particular about every single aspect of your figures. I suppose the price dictates it but this one looks amazing to me. I've no complaints.

megatronimus wrote:Man I love this one. Much better than the Takara Megs. Its settled for me. Easy pre-order. You guys are really, really particular about every single aspect of your figures. I suppose the price dictates it but this one looks amazing to me. I've no complaints.

i dont know if theres many complaints bout thie figure itself. i think the apprehension mostly lies in the notion of takaras own megatron V2.

Just wow...

You guys and your quazi ethical positions...don't worry, I'll enjoy this figure for you. Sold, sold, sold

Gurgintius Maximus wrote::shock: Just wow...

Sold, sold, sold

Agreed.

Had this toy on pre-order since it was first announced weeks ago. Plan to own and display this toy on my MP TF display shelf.

Apollyon Painted Test Shot Video , Via griffith keith aka KFC .

Man! was i wrong about this thing , it looks fN amazing

This thing is SICK! Gimme gimme GIMME!