Clearer Images of Takara Tomy's Transformers Masterpiece MP-22 Ultra Magnus

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El Duque wrote:As expected we now have clearer images of Takara Tomy's MP-22 Ultra Magnus from the pages of Figure King #195. Enjoy the image mirrored below courtesy of the Planet Iacon Facebook page, enjoy!

So good. I want to see a shot of the back though. I'm also surprised the parade of digibashes haven't started yet.

Has anyone solved the mystery of the inner-white-robot?

That clearer image certainly shows how awesome he looks.
Although, I must admit, considering he isn’t a parts former of a robot in armour…he looks rather…kibbly and broken up? Not sure if you can see what I mean.
For those hailing the cartoon accuracy (those using it as means to shoot down those of us that wanted inner robot in armour) when did he ever have what appears to be a very short cape?
To weigh in on why I’d prefer MP Magnus to be a white Prime in armour (which I thought was a good question, presented rather politely); Play and display value. (excuse some of the mess, have some Kit-bash fodder lying around…):

(I realise some of these configurations are not completely accurate to the powered convoy ones…I did this real quick…) I mean, imagine all these options at Masterpiece scale!
And I can’t be the only one that arranges my ‘adult collectables’ in displays like this?:

I mean, I know non of us are 8 anymore, but c’mon, fun play and display options were what MP-10 was about…I guess I was just hoping MP-22 would have the same spirit.

To tackle TimothyR ,not quoted for (relative) shortness; This kind of reasoning and nonsense bothers me. You would honestly want toys to be restricted by a cartoon that didn’t know it’s own head from it’s own arse? Season 3 had no concept of continuity (visual or written), and to say ‘it never happened in the cartoon’ whilst true, again isn’t concrete. Rodimus was never Hot-Rod slotted into a trailer, oh except that one episode where people over at Akom felt it needless to follow the characters model. Yet MP-09 exists. Rodimus never split from his trailer to form a base, but I’m glad MP-09 took from the toy on that aspect. It’s fun, and adds options. Even MP-10 has options taken from the toy that were never used (or needed) in the show. Roller and the trailer base were akin to AI, they don’t need a pilot, but to respect the toy and have some fun the seats for Spike were added.
So it was never seen in official fiction, big whoop. I suppose you carry a cross and a vile of Holy water just in case you are subjected to an image of the MP datsuns sporting the toy accurate shoulder launchers from Amazon. Some of us enjoy flexibility in toys and display pieces.
I don’t think a white Prime in armour would have ruined the aesthetic of the final Magnus Bot that much. He would still look like the cartoon, with good design and engineering which I have no doubt TT are capable of. The biggest bane would be partsforming, which usually bothers me too but Magnus will always be an exception for me, if and when offered. This view on what Magnus ‘should be’ based on his fiction appearances is yours, and worthy of respect. What’s troublesome is your post doesn’t afford the other side of the fence the same respect and courtesy.
This was always going to be a decision split right down the middle. TT made their choice and this time the winning side wasn’t mine. Even after not getting what I want, you don’t see me or the others being rude and insisting the other side is wrong due to ‘facts’ buried in relativity and pedantry.

Despite all this, it looks damn good! Can’t wait to see it in his colours. I definetly want one, Magnus is too awesome not to own! I love animated and both TF: Prime incarnations for breaking from the ‘white Prime in armour’ concept…but I hoped a ‘perfect’ G1 Magnus would incorporate it. Just different ideals, that’s all it is. Like I said, one side was always destined to ‘loose’. Given how good this looks…it’s not much of a loss. But for me, a part of me is disappointed.

If I feel rich enough maybe one day I’ll buy a second and attempt a kit bash…

Cyberpath wrote:Thanks for the link!

I'm pleasantly surprised that Takara didn't go with the "parts-former" approach. I like the fact that in the cartoon, my favourite character, Optimus Prime, doesn't share a character design with other Transformers. No white Convoy, no Nemesis Prime.. none of that stuff, he's completely unique. Likewise, Ultra Magnus.

I do like that they have the same cab model in truck mode though, it was a nice reference to Prime when he was written off; and it also kind of adds to the premise that they go way back. (and Takara matched it perfectly.)

Basically, this toy hits the nail right on the head for you. Good for you! This is what I like to see
MP-09's execution was a bane for some, but to me it's perfect! I now have the tables turned on me

I would love it if the inner white robot some what resembled Minimus Ambus from MTMTE.

Doctor McGrath wrote:

Mykltron wrote:

Mindmaster wrote:If you have a problem with this, then the problem is with you.

I have a problem with his apparent lack of lateral shoulder articulation. Also, as they've gone for toy accuracy, his thighs are disproportionately short.

Eh, I'm not sure about the shoulder articulation. The shoulder could easily swivel outwards with a universal joint inside the shoulder pad. Too much to speculate from a few blurry pics of a prototype.

Now the new pic is available I can see that he does have some sort of shoulder articulation. With that amount of shoulder kibble he won't have much though. I may have to await a Hasbro release for this one.

Must Have!!!

Some interesting mechanics inside the wrist, there. I'm guessing it's for retracting the hand.

I have to say I'm slightly disappointed in the lack of an inner white robot, but not enough to consider not buying it. It was a cool feature of the original toy, but regardless of what their given reason are, I'm sure it would result in a lot of fragile parts and could even perhaps increase the cost of the figure. I'd rather see an MP Magnus that looks almost like he jumped out of the cartoon than an expensive, bulky, fragile version just so he can have the white inner robot.

The back kibble is weird, I wonder why they couldn't figure out a way to fold that up? Same deal with Bumblebee, I suppose. Another thing that looks like it could be lacking is elbow articulation. But I'm not sure what they could do with that much chunky armor.

Otherwise, that head sculpt is amazing and he just looks so great overall. I can't wait to have him on my shelf next to Prime!

It appears that most of the kibble on his back is actually the cab, folded up and tucked onto his back. If you look closely at the portion of the kibble hanging down, you can see the corner of one of the front windows, as well as the side mirror from the cab. There's also that notch between the front windows, where it appears it connects to, well, his ass. You can tell that that flap hanging down is also the roof of the cab. I'm hoping this doesn't detract from the look of the figure once we see it in color, since it will all be white, and may really stick out compared to the rest of the red and blue that will be there...

Drift082111 wrote:I would love it if the inner white robot some what resembled Minimus Ambus from MTMTE.

UM's been in the pipeline for sometime way before the UM story arc. Given that Tomy has already milked the DW take on the "white Convoy" being Prime's brother (in arms or cybernetically) + the nostalgia of the G1 series..........doubt they'd have attempted it.

I think they made a pretty acceptable compromise with this figure. I already have MP-02 so I don't need another white prime, and to be perfectly frank, "White inner robot or no" is such an absurdly contentious subject there was no way for hastak to win in the first place. At least this shows they cared enough to do him justice this time rather than just giving us a white MP-10 and a downsized version of MP-02's kind of crappy cardboard trailer. (It looks pretty cool for what it is, I'm just bitter I kinda screwed mine up when I was assembling it.) Can we all agree that whatever we like or don't like about him, the fact he's not a repaint or retool of MP-10 is in itself kind of impressive?

Doctor McGrath wrote:So good. I want to see a shot of the back though. I'm also surprised the parade of digibashes haven't started yet.

CYBERGEEKS Alliance posted .

Digibashes from Turnman, TigerBlade, and Ambitron from TFW2005, for MP-22 UltraMagnus, and thanks to Daim

@hinomars19 - I think you're mistaking me for things said and asked by Doctor McGrath and TimothyR. All I've said was some clarity on the Japanese text and noting the cartoon-focused nature of the MP line. The other two were asking (out of innocent curiosity, in Doctor McGrath's case) about why folks want a White Prime and (in TimothyR's case) defending the show-accurate nature of this figure. I was doing neither.

Autobot Genocide wrote:

Doctor McGrath wrote:So good. I want to see a shot of the back though. I'm also surprised the parade of digibashes haven't started yet.

CYBERGEEKS Alliance posted .

Digibashes from Turnman, TigerBlade, and Ambitron from TFW2005, for MP-22 UltraMagnus, and thanks to Daim

Hahaha right on man!

Kapow has there pre-order up .

Kapow Toys.

Transformers Masterpiece MP22 Ultra Magnus is now available to reserve with a deposit of £20 and due for release this December! - http://www.kapowtoys.co.uk/transformers ... agnus.html

The details on Takara Tomy's recently revealed Transformers Masterpiece MP-22 Ultra Magnus continue to roll in! Site sponsor Robotkingdom has posted a list of accessories that will accompany the figure, which will include both Spike and Daniel minifigures. As expected based on the prototype images there will be a face swap feature, plus alternate fists. They go on to state he will be a new mold, and the cab does not have to detach from the trailer for transformation.

Robotkingdom wrote:This item includes:

• Ultra Magnus Main Body
• Face for Exchange X 1
• Weapon X 1
• Daniel Figure X 1
• Spike Figure X 1
• Fist for Exchange
• Manual

Transformation from Robot to Car Carrier mode do not require the remove of the Cabin.
Vehicle mode can fit in 4 other MP size Cars.
Totally new mold item.

Excited alright but does that mean no white Prime? (The no need to disconnect the cab description)

Spike again? That is now three Masterpiece Spike figures. Why not use Carly?

Trikeboy wrote:Spike again? That is now three Masterpiece Spike figures. Why not use Carly?

I imagine it'll be adult Spike and Daniel with their "futuristic" white suits from the Animated 1986 movie, the 3rd season and Headmasters.

Seibertron wrote:

Trikeboy wrote:Spike again? That is now three Masterpiece Spike figures. Why not use Carly?

I imagine it'll be adult Spike and Daniel with their "futuristic" white suits from the Animated 1986 movie, the 3rd season and Headmasters.

That's what I figured, too. I just hope that they have the Dr Wu Partners level of detail, and not MP-10 Spike's level of detail.

Seibertron wrote:

Trikeboy wrote:Spike again? That is now three Masterpiece Spike figures. Why not use Carly?

I imagine it'll be adult Spike and Daniel with their "futuristic" white suits from the Animated 1986 movie, the 3rd season and Headmasters.

Yeah, I'm sure it will with Daniel being included it's just the third time they have done the character. Also, am I the only one who see's this:

fenrir72 wrote:Excited alright but does that mean no white Prime? (The no need to disconnect the cab description)

I'm not sure if they're being coy so that they can reveal the inner robot later with great fanfare, or because there is no inner robot. Sigh. The suspense.

Can someone recommend the best deal for this guy to the USA? I'm so tired of the ridiculous markups!

Yep. Must have. Definitely must have. I hope the inner robot is Minimus ambus and not just a Prime repaint. Though, I always liked the White repaint of prime, but only because it was like the silver alloy-coated Prime from the Season 3 episode "The Return of Optimus Prime".

I'll be among the first to own this figure.

Ultra Magnus wrote:Yep. Must have. Definitely must have. I hope the inner robot is Minimus ambus and not just a Prime repaint. Though, I always liked the White repaint of prime, but only because it was like the silver alloy-coated Prime from the Season 3 episode "The Return of Optimus Prime".

I'll be among the first to own this figure.

Do we even know for sure the cab transforms? As in, into a proper, stand-alone robot?

good news to know what will be included, another possible good new, according to big bad toy store there's a price drop, here's the email I got a few minutes ago:

Hi - We have just learned more about the pricing of the MP-22 Ultra Magnus. The figure is set to sell in Japan for 19,440 yen retail. We have adjusted your preorder from $279.99 down to $189.99! Please note that the official solicitation has not yet been sent out from Takara, and the 19440 Yen retail price is subject to change. If the retail price goes up, we will need to adjust our pricing up proportionally, but we hope that will not be the case. Thanks so much for preordering from BBTS and we can't wait for the MP-22 to arrive!

Thanks!
Joel
http://www.bigbadtoystore.com


hope it's true, last time with MP Soundwave there was a price drop then a price increase

JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:

Ultra Magnus wrote:Yep. Must have. Definitely must have. I hope the inner robot is Minimus ambus and not just a Prime repaint. Though, I always liked the White repaint of prime, but only because it was like the silver alloy-coated Prime from the Season 3 episode "The Return of Optimus Prime".

I'll be among the first to own this figure.

Do we even know for sure the cab transforms? As in, into a proper, stand-alone robot?

It honestly doesn't seem likely. This new info states 'totally new mold item'. That can be read to mean it's all new, which omits an MP 10 repaint. 2 out of 3 translations of the magazine scan state no cab robot, and the article goes to length to describe the cab 'shares parts with MP-10' like the grill and tires etc. If it was MP 10, it's a no brainer it would share parts . That plus scrutinising the pics suggests no inner robot from the cab...

Although...

This here does say it does not 'need' to detach to transform. Maybe the cab 'can' detach if you want to, but is not a requirement to get him to Ultra Magnus mode. Maybe the cab can turn into a robot of some sort, but isn't an MP-10 repaint. Maybe I'm a little obsessed with this topic now and need a good walk in the sun...

I'm leaning toward it having no inner cab robot from what we have so far. But admittedly what we have is very little, so who knows. I mean, why alternate fists? Who saw that coming?

Sabrblade wrote:@hinomars19 - I think you're mistaking me for things said and asked by Doctor McGrath and TimothyR. All I've said was some clarity on the Japanese text and noting the cartoon-focused nature of the MP line. The other two were asking (out of innocent curiosity, in Doctor McGrath's case) about why folks want a White Prime and (in TimothyR's case) defending the show-accurate nature of this figure. I was doing neither.

Ahh, then you most certainly deserve an apology. It was indeed TimothyR's comment I was referring to, the quote headers got me confused as one of your posts was in there. Not an easy mistake to make given I know how the layouts of quoting work (not like I'm a newbie here), so there is no excuse-I apologise! I'm usually much more careful, but I will be doubly so from now. (I'll also edit my original post)

Sorry again, especially since the mix up was over such a harsh backlash!

On that note, defending the show accurate nature of the figure is certainly not a problem to me. I just didn't feel right about the way TimothyR's comment went about it.

Again, sorry Sabrblade.

I think UM looks great. Only things i would nit pick at this point would be that back kibble (should be able to fold up) and the eyes. It's looks like his eyes are too small from what they were in the cartoon and in TFTM. I think he loses a lot of his signature look without those big baby blues. Hopefully we will get a closer shot of his face and will prove me wrong.

In our second piece of MP-22 Ultra Magnus news for the day, site sponsor BigBadToyStore has notified those with existing pre-orders that the price has been dropped from $279.99 to $189.99! While this is certainly welcome news, keep in mind the official solicitation from Takara Tomy has yet to be received, and the price is still subject to further change. The big guy is tentatively scheduled to arrive in December, of course that to is subject to change.

BBTS wrote:Hi - We have just learned more about the pricing of the MP-22 Ultra Magnus. The figure is set to sell in Japan for 19,440 yen retail. We have adjusted your preorder from $279.99 down to $189.99! Please note that the official solicitation has not yet been sent out from Takara, and the 19440 Yen retail price is subject to change. If the retail price goes up, we will need to adjust our pricing up proportionally, but we hope that will not be the case. Thanks so much for preordering from BBTS and we can't wait for the MP-22 to arrive!

Thanks!
Joel
http://www.bigbadtoystore.com

This just gets better and better

YES!! YES!! This looks awesome!! And I'm so glad the current rumor on pricing is under $200. Now where's my Wheeljack!??!!

I know there are tons of Digibashes out there but this is what I want.

Hopefully he's able to have that trailer removed if needed...not a fan of that "citizen Stack" version. For $200 I'd like my OG style Magnus please!

skynet1O1 wrote:YES!! YES!! This looks awesome!! And I'm so glad the current rumor on pricing is under $200. Now where's my Wheeljack!??!!

price drop is phenominal. anyone else think its funny how he ended up being almost the exact same prices as KFC's?

shajaki wrote:

skynet1O1 wrote:YES!! YES!! This looks awesome!! And I'm so glad the current rumor on pricing is under $200. Now where's my Wheeljack!??!!

price drop is phenominal. anyone else think its funny how he ended up being almost the exact same prices as KFC's?

I think it is the reason we are seeing the prototype so early too.

First off, why does the 'Click Here to Comment' link for Lawson G1-colored Grimlock lead to the Ultra Magnus thread?

Anyway, MP Magnus news is good. Not sure why he needs two sets of fists, can anybody think of a scene where something weird/different happened to his hands?

I also like the fact that he will probably come with spacesuit Spike and Daniel. I'm guessing the Spike that comes with Bumblebee will not be removeable from the Exosuit, so these figures will give alternate display options. Also, MP Rodimus never came with a Daniel figure like I thought he should, so we'll finally be able to recreate that famous beginning scene from the movie. It would also be really smart of Takara to make it so they can both sit in Magnus' cab. I might just repurpose the MP-10 Spike as Sparkplug instead. Except his shirt is wrong, but whatever.

kirbenvost wrote:First off, why does the 'Click Here to Comment' link for Lawson G1-colored Grimlock lead to the Ultra Magnus thread?

Anyway, MP Magnus news is good. Not sure why he needs two sets of fists, can anybody think of a scene where something weird/different happened to his hands?

Pointing finger so as to give our RTS perceptors some firm orders?
Or maybe hands that can clutch his face to express his boredom of our RTS Perceptors?

There is no inner cab robot, as there is no INNER CAB!! The cab, as you can see in the photo, folds up and attaches to Magnus's back when he is in robot mode. I'm betting the cab is just mostly a hollow shell, designed to be in the same proportions and look exactly like MP-10's cab.

kirbenvost wrote:First off, why does the 'Click Here to Comment' link for Lawson G1-colored Grimlock lead to the Ultra Magnus thread?

Because the original news stories this thread was created for was a trio of news items from the same magazine; MP Ultra Magnus, AOE G1 Grimlock, and the new Campaign Microns.

lets try and clear this up a bit.. look at the cab in the photo of the prototype.. it doesn't share the same panel lines as MP10 does.. and it certainly doesn't have enough panel lanes to suggest that there's a robot folded up into the cab.

next.. look at the magnus robot mode.. look at the waist, there's clearly no inner robot there.

as of now, going off of the majority of the translations and the visual evidence.. you've got to come to the conclusion/the realization that there is no inner robot mode.

for me that's perfectly fine.. he was never like that in the show why in the world would he have an inner white magnus for the masterpiece version?

i do quite enjoy parts-formers.. but i enjoy accuracy more.. so, this is perfect for me.

quick question....

UM comes with a spike and daniel. assuming theyll be the same scale as spike from MP10. so does anyone know if the MP10 spike fits in MP09 hotrod, meaning MP22's daniel will fit in hotrod?

sorry if this question made anyone cross eyed

TimothyR wrote:as of now, going off of the majority of the translations and the visual evidence.. you've got to come to the conclusion/the realization that there is no inner robot mode.

While the evidence does suggest that, until we see more from TT or in hand images, I won't be forming any conclusion.

And as they just said, you "don't need to remove the cab to transform him into robot mode" ... It's a bit of a stretch but I and my 10 year old self will continue to hold out that little bit of hope.

Sabrblade wrote:

kirbenvost wrote:First off, why does the 'Click Here to Comment' link for Lawson G1-colored Grimlock lead to the Ultra Magnus thread?

Because the original news stories this thread was created for was a trio of news items from the same magazine; MP Ultra Magnus, AOE G1 Grimlock, and the new Campaign Microns.

Okay, where's the discussion for Grimlock?

hinomars19 wrote:

kirbenvost wrote:Anyway, MP Magnus news is good. Not sure why he needs two sets of fists, can anybody think of a scene where something weird/different happened to his hands?

Pointing finger so as to give our RTS perceptors some firm orders?
Or maybe hands that can clutch his face to express his boredom of our RTS Perceptors?

Well, he's already got articulated fingers so he can point. I guess maybe they might have an addition set of hands with more articulation, but I can't see why they'd do that instead of just building that articulation into the first pair.

kirbenvost wrote:Okay, where's the discussion for Grimlock?

Unfortunately it's locked up in this topic.

kirbenvost wrote:

hinomars19 wrote:

kirbenvost wrote:Anyway, MP Magnus news is good. Not sure why he needs two sets of fists, can anybody think of a scene where something weird/different happened to his hands?

Pointing finger so as to give our RTS perceptors some firm orders?
Or maybe hands that can clutch his face to express his boredom of our RTS Perceptors?

Well, he's already got articulated fingers so he can point. I guess maybe they might have an addition set of hands with more articulation, but I can't see why they'd do that instead of just building that articulation into the first pair.

Haha, well yes, I was joking. He can indeed point with these hands. My only guess right now would be...a fixed pose pair more suitable for holding a Matrix? Until we know more about what this toy does, it's the only thing I can think of logically at this point.

Here's a full image and size comparison of Mags and Ops.

I can see something getting ready to happen. The takara version won't have the naked white prime where as the hasbro version will be the naked white prime only.

I can see this happening.

TFsource also dropped their price to 189.99...

Nice!