Figure King 194 Scans: First Color MP-20 Wheeljack, MP-22 Ultra Magnus Teaser, MP Star Saber Art and More

Wheeljack - Wish the windshield was light blue or clear.

Also, too much green.





Magnus - Nice to finally see something.

AD01 Optimus Prime - Yikes! Drastically different from Hasbro's!

MAGNUS!!

Ultra Magnus is a Phase-Sixer. I guess he can handle that now!

Wheeljack, so good! It's true his bot mode has more green than in the cartoon, but that's the sacrifice they have to make for a more accurate car mode. Which looks amazing, by the way. A little lighter on the sponsors than I was expecting, but they got the big ones right. I'm surprised to see the car doors end up on his legs. I still haven't quite grasped the transformation, but it looks cool. The one criticism I have is that his waist looks really weak and flimsy. I guess a lighter windshield would be nice. They must've been going for car mode accuracy for that too.

What's with OP being so silver?

Also have to say those Kabaya kits are looking good, although I'm unsure if I want to continue with the series.

I am unspeakably excited about Ultra Magnus and very happy that we have reached the silhouette milestone.

Does anyone have an opinion on Magnus' release timetable? So we received a silhouette of Bee a month or two ago and he is due for release in November, could we see Magnus by December or is that being too optimistic?

And what is a phase 6-er? Six transformation steps?

man all those black parts on WJ should be grey

PadForce wrote:And what is a phase 6-er? Six transformation steps?

its a pun,reference to the IDW comics lol..but in the magazine it shows that magnus is in phase 6, i guess he'll be released AFTER an MP star saber which is phase 5..

wow.. the colors on wheeljack are very disappointing... he still looks great.. he just doesn't have that same "straight from the cartoon" look that the others do.

i hope they release some sort of exclusive with a simpler more animation accurate color scheme..

prowl, blue streak and smokescreens real world paint jobs translate really well to looking like the show, this however falls REALLY short in giving off the same effect.

also.. magnus looks like he's going to be my favorite masterpiece.. right now it's prowl.. but magnus just looks incredible.. i'm super excited for bumblebee and wheeljack.. but i'm two times as excited for magnus.. so exciting.

what a GREAT time to be a G1 fan.

feeiq90 wrote:man all those black parts on WJ should be grey

PadForce wrote:And what is a phase 6-er? Six transformation steps?

its a pun,reference to the IDW comics lol..but in the magazine it shows that magnus is in phase 6, i guess he'll be released AFTER an MP star saber which is phase 5..

Damn that is disappointing, I will assume he is due 2015 then

PadForce wrote:

feeiq90 wrote:man all those black parts on WJ should be grey

PadForce wrote:And what is a phase 6-er? Six transformation steps?

its a pun,reference to the IDW comics lol..but in the magazine it shows that magnus is in phase 6, i guess he'll be released AFTER an MP star saber which is phase 5..

Damn that is disappointing, I will assume he is due 2015 then

well.. i think takara's plans were to do two small molds and one large per year.. so.. magnus would fit the large figure, but that's assuming star saber is counted as an extra rather than part of the normal G1 line.. i doubt it'll be that way, but i'm WAY more interested in magnus than i am for saber. whichever one comes out first, i assume they'll be out around christmas time.

I'm really very surprised to see any sponsorship logos on Wheeljack. I'm liking what I see a lot, glad I've ordered two.

WJ on August 2014 barring delays
BB on December 2014

SS 1st 2015
UM 2nd 2015

The way they've got that Optimus posed makes it looks SO much nicer than all the previous pics, and I just want it even more!

Blinged out Leader Prime? Nice, but I'll try for the regular Leader (as a reminder, it's a different mold from the First Edition one). By the by, it look like TakaraTomy will follow Hasbro's lead by putting the Movie toys in Generations as well.

Is it me, or does MP Wheeljack transform similar to Rodimus? I see pieces of the back in the chest area.

Nice to finally hear an update on Ultra Magnus.

Wheeljack looks alright, but I'm not particularly attayched to him.

Urgh, I need more than concept sketches for Star Saber! He and MP11 Starscream are the ones I really want the most.

What the heck are they doing to Wheel Jack?

White with a big orange dot on the hands?????
stripes just above the waist????
super dark windshield?????
big ugly pin marks on the hips with anemic thighs??????

I would rather them put this project on hold until they get it right....

warzon3 wrote:What the heck are they doing to Wheel Jack?

White with a big orange dot on the hands?????
stripes just above the waist????
super dark windshield?????
big ugly pin marks on the hips with anemic thighs??????

I would rather them put this project on hold until they get it right....

Certain compromises have to be made. Mind you, this is a transforming figure so you can't expect it to be fully proportional or should I say not proportional as the original figure was.

Iirc, my 1980's Tomica Lancia Stratos despite having diffent scales had wayyyyyyyyyy different proportions compared to the somewhat blocky Takara Diaclone. The MP version seems to be following the real world car proportion, same with BB.

In the end, I know you're going to buy him or else he'll be sold out and you'll regret it to the end

warzon3 wrote:What the heck are they doing to Wheel Jack?

White with a big orange dot on the hands?????
stripes just above the waist????
super dark windshield?????
big ugly pin marks on the hips with anemic thighs??????

I would rather them put this project on hold until they get it right....

The orange dots are the back lights of his alt-mode.
And if they or any of the other deco choices where missing you'd complain about the alt-moe sucking.

I think Wheeljack looks OK, kinda disappointed myself though, but I'll reserve real judgement till we see better pics of him, ones that aren't on a white background and low quality.

Magnus looks as interesting as a silhouette can, only thing I get from it is that it's finally officially official that he's coming.

Ultra Magnus is scheduled to come out in August with Wheeljack. Since it's based on MP-10 and has been in development since before MP-10 came out. Silhouette means a prototype is made while Star Saber is still only showing designs.

What are these so-called "phases"? Ultra Magnus is phase 6, Star Saber is phase 5, and AOE Optimus is phase 1. What does this mean?

Also, do the AOE leader Optimus and Grimlock figures have any lights and/or sounds?

Pedantry Alert:

Why do sites always call furtive pics snapped at the newsagent "scans"?

zodconvoy wrote:Ultra Magnus is scheduled to come out in August with Wheeljack. Since it's based on MP-10 and has been in development since before MP-10 came out. Silhouette means a prototype is made while Star Saber is still only showing designs.

August? I dont know much about this at all, but with Bee, MP 21 due to be out in Nov from everything I have read, why would Magnus (MP 22) be out 4 months before that? Dubious.

IF and I do mean IF I buy AOE Optimus prime, it will only be for the vehicule mode.
the robot mode still disgust me.

Too much green on wheeljack, but I can live with that.

Starsaber? don't know that guy and I dont want to know him. Think of me as selfish, but I'd rather see Ultra Magnus (to which I am more familiar wit than that saber guy) be released before starsaber. Seeing only a shadow of him make me want him more than ever.

as someone said, its a good time to be a G1 addict!

NemesisMonkeySupreme wrote:Pedantry Alert:

Why do sites always call furtive pics snapped at the newsagent "scans"?

Because the pages have been scanned though a printer.

KirbyForce1 wrote:What are these so-called "phases"? Ultra Magnus is phase 6, Star Saber is phase 5, and AOE Optimus is phase 1. What does this mean?

Based on this setup and the schedule fenrir72 posted, I'd say these phases represent quarterly scehdules of the year.

Phase 1 = 2014 Quarter 1/Spring 2014
Phase 2 = 2014 Quarter 2/Summer 2014
Phase 3 = 2014 Quarter 3/Fall 2014
Phase 4 = 2014 Quarter 4/Winter 2014
Phase 5 = 2015 Quarter 1/Spring 2015
Phase 6 = 2015 Quarter 2/Summer 2015

KirbyForce1 wrote:

NemesisMonkeySupreme wrote:Pedantry Alert:

Why do sites always call furtive pics snapped at the newsagent "scans"?

Because the pages have been scanned through a printer.

Then someone needs to learn how to use a scanner, 'cause those sure as hell look like photos to me.

NemesisMonkeySupreme wrote:

KirbyForce1 wrote:

NemesisMonkeySupreme wrote:Pedantry Alert:

Why do sites always call furtive pics snapped at the newsagent "scans"?

Because the pages have been scanned through a printer.

Then someone needs to learn how to use a scanner, 'cause those sure as hell look like photos to me.

They obviously didn't want to tear up the magazine, so the pics are far from perfect and bent/curved to keep the spine intact.

Sabrblade wrote:

NemesisMonkeySupreme wrote:

KirbyForce1 wrote:

NemesisMonkeySupreme wrote:Pedantry Alert:

Why do sites always call furtive pics snapped at the newsagent "scans"?

Because the pages have been scanned through a printer.

Then someone needs to learn how to use a scanner, 'cause those sure as hell look like photos to me.

They obvious didn't want to tear up the magazine, so the pics are far from perfect and bent/curved to keep the spine intact.

Should we even care about how it's even done? Either way, we still see the contents of the magazine which is priority number one.

seein a lot of anger over the color scheme... to me it just looks like they were going for a G1 toy accurate color scheme. it doesnt exactly match, but its closer to that than the toon wheeljack.

and after seeing the plans for streak/bluestreak/silverstreak/streakystreakystreakstreak... im not worried.

wheeljack is his own entity, thus one mold, one use. but this way they can at very least get two figures out of it: G1 toy accurate & G1 cartoon accurate.

and i dont think ive ever been more excited about some teaser/non-information than the ultra magnus silhouette.

Deathscythetransform wrote:Starsaber? don't know that guy and I dont want to know him. Think of me as selfish, but I'd rather see Ultra Magnus (to which I am more familiar wit than that saber guy) be released before starsaber. Seeing only a shadow of him make me want him more than ever.

as someone said, its a good time to be a G1 addict!

Star saber doesn't have any bearing on Magnus's release. He is separate to the rest of the MP line, even had a different designer. This is why BB is MP21 and Magnus is MP22. Ultra Magnus wouldn't come out any faster even if Saber didn't exist.

I do wish Magnus would come sooner, however. But hopefully the wait is because the new trailer parts are gonna be damn worth it!
(I do look forward to Star Saber's release...but not his price tag...)

I thought the "Phase Sixer" comment was a reference to Ultra Magnus having a green super spark in the IDW comics? http://tfwiki.net/wiki/Phase_Sixer

And for the August release date, that's the only estimate available and has been listed. BBTS has August and TFSource has Late 2014.

shajaki wrote:seein a lot of anger over the color scheme... to me it just looks like they were going for a G1 toy accurate color scheme. it doesnt exactly match, but its closer to that than the toon wheeljack.

and after seeing the plans for streak/bluestreak/silverstreak/streakystreakystreakstreak... im not worried.

wheeljack is his own entity, thus one mold, one use. but this way they can at very least get two figures out of it: G1 toy accurate & G1 cartoon accurate.

and i dont think ive ever been more excited about some teaser/non-information than the ultra magnus silhouette.

okay.. first, you're wrong.

they RARELY consider the toy coloring for anything.. and this isn't an exception.. the colors are based on the actual real life vehicle.. the colors aren't based on the toy whatsoever.

and if you read what hasui said about wheeljack.. he said that he tried to make the color of the vehicle mode as accurate to the real life car as he could, and said that he tried to make the robot mode look closer to the animation model.

so, again, the colors have absolutely nothing to do with the toy.

i said it earlier that i REALLY hope they release a simpler cartoon accurate color scheme since, as he is right now, he doesn't fit all that well with the other autobot cars. the color schemes on the other cars are simple, so they translated perfectly into being accurate to both the cartoon and the real life car. wheeljack, however, was too complicated for the animators.. which now turns into this mess.

and, like you said, wheeljack hasn't been made with the thoughts of further use of the mold.. so i would think that it's likely we'll see an animation accurate wheeljack.

i hope they do.. and when they do, hopefully i'll be able to sell the car accurate wheeljack lol.. though i'm sure i'll end up keeping it cause it looks great.. it's just not perfect compared to the others.

this news story has really ruined my excitement for bumblebee and wheeljack because i'm SOOOO excited for magnus lol. i'm still excited for the other two, but magnus is just going to be incredible.. there's no real life vehicle to be modeled after.. either of the two ways of him achieving his robot mode is just fine with me.. i love it.

Wheeljack looks pretty good. I find it interesting that they provided a shot of Wheeljack's back. I wonder if it's because people have complained about a lack of back shots in the past and been disappointed with hollow legs and back kibble on previous releases. Anyway, nice to see his legs look solid (with the exception of the ankles which to me is minor).

Ultra Magnus is wielding a relatively small gun. I hope his toes/feet are better designed and more pronounced than his G1 version.

Have folks forgotten that Wheeljack's mold can be used to make another character? Specifically this guy?

Sabrblade wrote:Have folks forgotten that Wheeljack's mold can be used to make another character? Specifically this guy?

i didn't when i meantioned it in some other thread where people were having a fit about repaints and colour-schemes.

on the other hand, of course I'm sorry if your childhood is ruined forever because an update of a Transformer toy from the 80s looks quite a bit like a Transformer toy.


Nice to get confirmation of Magnus though. Oh, wait! lets all get our knickers into a twist about the Phase 6 thing. It seems like a wave designation to me,.

craggy wrote:on the other hand, of course I'm sorry if your childhood is ruined forever because an update of a Transformer toy from the 80s looks quite a bit like a Transformer toy.

What's this, now? Whose childhood? What toy? Huh?

Sabrblade wrote:

craggy wrote:on the other hand, of course I'm sorry if your childhood is ruined forever because an update of a Transformer toy from the 80s looks quite a bit like a Transformer toy.

What's this, now? Whose childhood? What toy? Huh?

I wasn't replying to you specifically with that part of my post. Ignore it and move on.

First MP WJ, I must say, I was very excited by the prototype but this latest revelation just killed it for me. He looks like he's wearing the Xmas red and green sweater, lol. Not a fan of the black color too. Looks like WJ may be joining my wait for Hasbro release just like Red Alert unless there's a toon exclusive redeco down the line.

As for UM, I'm super excited to see the official confirmation. Tip my hat to BBTS for the super early bird news. Other than the teeny tiny gun, so far I really like what I see from MP UM.

As for Phase 6 labeling, that's just the Magazine Layout format. Here's a quote from the man who did the translation:

MACRAPTRON View Post
According to Hisashi Yuki, the designing process is at 35% [Star Saber]. Those are the preliminary design sketches and will most likely change a lot before we see the final thing.
He also mentions that the main challenge is to decide on the price range - they want to deliver a great and affordable product so they're deciding on that boring stuff (drop/include features, accessories).

And... forget about the Phase 5, Phase 6 thing. It's just the magazine listing the news in a fancy way.

TimothyR wrote:

shajaki wrote:seein a lot of anger over the color scheme... to me it just looks like they were going for a G1 toy accurate color scheme. it doesnt exactly match, but its closer to that than the toon wheeljack.

okay.. first, you're wrong.

they RARELY consider the toy coloring for anything.. and this isn't an exception.. the colors are based on the actual real life vehicle.. the colors aren't based on the toy whatsoever.

and if you read what hasui said about wheeljack.. he said that he tried to make the color of the vehicle mode as accurate to the real life car as he could, and said that he tried to make the robot mode look closer to the animation model.

so, again, the colors have absolutely nothing to do with the toy.

okay.. first, theres no need to be a dick.

im aware that it was meant to be based on the real car. but the G1 toy also had the majority of the sponsor decals which is mainly where it differs from the cartoon. but also the black in place of the *should be* grey, and the G1 window is arguably clear/smoked, definitely not blue. for these reasons i believe he resembles the G1 toy more than the G1 cartoon model. hell, give him the dual launchers the original toy had and he'd be a dead ringer.

and "RARELY consider"? how about streak? he's getting two variants based soley on toys. hasbros rodimus was based on the original hot rod toy. MP10's darker blue is a reflection of the G1 toys colors. tigertrack and G2 sideswipe (aside from comics) only existed as toys. and that covers most of the MP molds since the rescaling. is that what you mean by rarely?

Sabrblade wrote:Have folks forgotten that Wheeljack's mold can be used to make another character? Specifically this guy?

What about Malboor WJ?

fenrir72 wrote:

Sabrblade wrote:Have folks forgotten that Wheeljack's mold can be used to make another character? Specifically this guy?

What about Malboor WJ?

Another good option!

Slicer is certainly easier though, as no retooling required and no pesky legal dept worrying paint job.

craggy wrote:Slicer is certainly easier though, as no retooling required and no pesky legal dept worrying paint job.

Indeed.

fenrir72 wrote:

Sabrblade wrote:Have folks forgotten that Wheeljack's mold can be used to make another character? Specifically this guy?

What about Malboor WJ?

I dont think that we will see the Marlboro chevron on Wheeljack again unless it's a custom.