Hasbro Designer Shows us there is no Back Kibble or Hollow Parts on Upcoming Tarn Figure

Saturday, October 1st, 2022 11:13PM CDT

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Below is a copy of the post designer Mark Maher did on Legacy Evolution Tarn. There are some pretty cool bits any fan of this character would enjoy, especially the part where even the transformation scheme is based on the comics.
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All hail Takara Tomy’s Yuya Onishi san! He has knocked this IDW’s comic appearance design originally drawn by Alex Milne straight out of the park! One of my mega priorities when I finally got into designing for the Generations segment of Transformers was to have biweekly meetings with our publishing team and our IDW partners. There’s one thing I love just as much as toys, its comics! As I mentioned at Pulsecon, my big bro @kmcomicsandtoys got me into all the coolest stuff when I was a wee lil lad. So bringing Legacy Evolution Tarn to the Voyager class was high on my to do list!!

Articulation and posability for this guy is off the charts. I even pushed for the fingers to be sculpted as seen in the comic panels because I just thought they looked so evil, unique and different, and just really rad.

The EVO-Fusion capability to not only combine but to customize how you want his 2 ion fusion cannons to be placed is endless! Aaannnddd did I mention no back kibble and no hollow parts .

Transformation sequence is not only smooth but is absolutely clever and even utilizes the sequence shown in the comic panels.

Throughout this whole Legacy line you will really notice each Takara Tomy designer’s style and aesthetic. I absolutely love how both Jhiaxus and Tarn have this strong bodied Decepticon presence to them.

The baddies are really gaining some heavy weights in the line but dont you worry, the Autobot heroes have their own squad coming together that will be quite epic indeed.

The Legacy Evolution showdown has just really hit its stride! Pick your team, get ready to have the ultimate once in a lifetime battles, the likes of which you’ve never been able to have before! Make room on your shelves!!

Make sure to tune into hasbropulse for pulsecon day 2 today! You won’t want to miss the science dropping on the other brands, I’m super excited for GIJOE

Tell me who you want to see next down in the comments!!

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Re: Hasbro Designer Shows us there is no Back Kibble or Hollow Parts on Upcoming Tarn Figure (2146139)
Posted by william-james88 on October 1st, 2022 @ 11:37pm CDT

Damit, was gonna close the laptop but I just HAD to check facebook like an social media adicted IDIOT before going to bed. And right there, opening it up is a pic of lio convoy being juxtaposed with that abomination from FMA. FUCK

Don't know if I was the first one to point it out, but it's gaining traction.

Re: Hasbro Designer Shows us there is no Back Kibble or Hollow Parts on Upcoming Tarn Figure (2146141)
Posted by TK415 on October 1st, 2022 @ 11:50pm CDT

william-james88 wrote:Damit, was gonna close the laptop but I just HAD to check facebook like an social media adicted IDIOT before going to bed. And right there, opening it up is a pic of lio convoy being juxtaposed with that abomination from FMA. ****

Don't know if I was the first one to point it out, but it's gaining traction.

What’s FMA stand for?

Re: Hasbro Designer Shows us there is no Back Kibble or Hollow Parts on Upcoming Tarn Figure (2146142)
Posted by Rodimus Prime on October 1st, 2022 @ 11:56pm CDT

TK415 wrote:
william-james88 wrote:Damit, was gonna close the laptop but I just HAD to check facebook like an social media adicted IDIOT before going to bed. And right there, opening it up is a pic of lio convoy being juxtaposed with that abomination from FMA. ****

Don't know if I was the first one to point it out, but it's gaining traction.

What’s FMA stand for?

Full Metal Alchemist.

Re: Hasbro Designer Shows us there is no Back Kibble or Hollow Parts on Upcoming Tarn Figure (2146143)
Posted by TK415 on October 2nd, 2022 @ 12:01am CDT

Rodimus Prime wrote:
TK415 wrote:
william-james88 wrote:Damit, was gonna close the laptop but I just HAD to check facebook like an social media adicted IDIOT before going to bed. And right there, opening it up is a pic of lio convoy being juxtaposed with that abomination from FMA. ****

Don't know if I was the first one to point it out, but it's gaining traction.

What’s FMA stand for?
Full Metal Alchemist.

Thanks man!

Re: Hasbro Designer Shows us there is no Back Kibble or Hollow Parts on Upcoming Tarn Figure (2146144)
Posted by ZeldaTheSwordsman on October 2nd, 2022 @ 12:04am CDT

william-james88 wrote:Damit, was gonna close the laptop but I just HAD to check facebook like an social media adicted IDIOT before going to bed. And right there, opening it up is a pic of lio convoy being juxtaposed with that abomination from FMA. ****

Don't know if I was the first one to point it out, but it's gaining traction.

If it's the FMA I'm thinking of... the Nina-Alexander chimera?

Re: Hasbro Designer Shows us there is no Back Kibble or Hollow Parts on Upcoming Tarn Figure (2146146)
Posted by Till-all-R1 on October 2nd, 2022 @ 12:23am CDT

I ran into Kingdom Core Soundwave today at Fred Meyer(Kroger) and almost grabbed him until I saw the price, freaking $16.99! I almost s**t a brick.

Re: Hasbro Designer Shows us there is no Back Kibble or Hollow Parts on Upcoming Tarn Figure (2146147)
Posted by Nemesis Primal on October 2nd, 2022 @ 12:28am CDT

william-james88 wrote:
Nemesis Primal wrote:
william-james88 wrote:HOWEVER, in this whole switcheroo, it seems we may have lost Twincast. He was the only other new bot for wave 4:

Tra Gen legacy ev voyager Twincast
Product Number: F3059

Remember that these listings sometimes exist before a toy goes into production (like Titan Master Prime/al, I forget) so if that's the case with Twincast, then maybe he just wont come out. At least, not yet and not in the mainline.
JTPrime's been saying that Twincast got pushed back to Evolution Wave 2, he's supposed to be Metalhawk's wavemate.

Thanks, I will add him to the list I posted yesterday, though that makes it 9 voyagers, I don't see how that will work. What about the cheetor repacks. I know he said they'd still come out but we now have 16 deluxes (including other repacks) already confirmed for next year. I don,t see any space left for those.

Yeah, that was my reaction as well. After that last batch of leaks I threw everything we had into an Excel sheet and actually counted it out into hypothetical waves based on the order they leaked in (and this is obviously outdated now that we know both the identity of the Commander/Titan and that Skyquake may have been pushed back) and posted it, and I think the conclusion that was reached amongst those who commented on it was that we might have 5-waves-worth of listings leaked.

legacy year 2.JPG

Re: Hasbro Designer Shows us there is no Back Kibble or Hollow Parts on Upcoming Tarn Figure (2146150)
Posted by Bounti76 on October 2nd, 2022 @ 1:36am CDT

Nemesis Primal wrote:
william-james88 wrote:
Nemesis Primal wrote:
william-james88 wrote:HOWEVER, in this whole switcheroo, it seems we may have lost Twincast. He was the only other new bot for wave 4:

Tra Gen legacy ev voyager Twincast
Product Number: F3059

Remember that these listings sometimes exist before a toy goes into production (like Titan Master Prime/al, I forget) so if that's the case with Twincast, then maybe he just wont come out. At least, not yet and not in the mainline.
JTPrime's been saying that Twincast got pushed back to Evolution Wave 2, he's supposed to be Metalhawk's wavemate.

Thanks, I will add him to the list I posted yesterday, though that makes it 9 voyagers, I don't see how that will work. What about the cheetor repacks. I know he said they'd still come out but we now have 16 deluxes (including other repacks) already confirmed for next year. I don,t see any space left for those.
Yeah, that was my reaction as well. After that last batch of leaks I threw everything we had into an Excel sheet and actually counted it out into hypothetical waves based on the order they leaked in (and this is obviously outdated now that we know both the identity of the Commander/Titan and that Skyquake may have been pushed back) and posted it, and I think the conclusion that was reached amongst those who commented on it was that we might have 5-waves-worth of listings leaked.
legacy year 2.JPG

Wait, who are the Commander and the Titan? And what's the deal with Leo Prime and FMA?

Re: Hasbro Designer Shows us there is no Back Kibble or Hollow Parts on Upcoming Tarn Figure (2146151)
Posted by primalxconvoy on October 2nd, 2022 @ 1:41am CDT

Bounti76 wrote:
Wait, who are the Commander and the Titan? And what's the deal with Leo Prime and FMA?

Apparently, the "long" face of the new Lio Convoy figure looks like a character from that show. If I remember rightly, it looks more like "Copy Convoy's" face?

250px-BWII_Copy_Convoy_beast_mode.jpg

Re: Hasbro Designer Shows us there is no Back Kibble or Hollow Parts on Upcoming Tarn Figure (2146152)
Posted by Nemesis Primal on October 2nd, 2022 @ 1:44am CDT

Bounti76 wrote:Wait, who are the Commander and the Titan? And what's the deal with Leo Prime and FMA?

Can't answer the FMA question as I haven't seen it, but the Titan and Commander are HEAVILY SPECULATED now to be The Nemesis and Armada Optimus, respectively, due to that Legacy Evolution poster was shown.

Re: Hasbro Designer Shows us there is no Back Kibble or Hollow Parts on Upcoming Tarn Figure (2146156)
Posted by ZeldaTheSwordsman on October 2nd, 2022 @ 2:09am CDT

I don't know that I buy the Nemesis speculation for the Titan. I'll want to see something more than Tarn's Face But Giant, and a cryptic hint, before I give it much weight.

I have a pretty good guess what the FMA thing is. In Fullmetal Alchemist, a cute little girl named Nina, and her adorable goof of a dog, are fused into a single being (such alchemic fusions of organisms are known as chimeras); the result is a tortured mix of human and canine. It's infamous among fans of the franchise, especially since the perpetrator was her own doting father and he did it for the sake of retaining his State Alchemist status.
https://static.wikia.nocookie.net/fma/images/4/4f/Nina_ChimeraForm.jpg/revision/latest?cb=20081113020905&format=original
Anyway, the chimera in question can be seen here. I tried to embed, but Wikia is a butt about that it seems. And people are apparently comparing Lio Convoy to her.

My personal non-G1 wishes for Legacy:
1. Leader-class Railspike, Rapid Run, and Midnight Express. It would fit how tall they are in-show, and make for a Rail Racer that sizes out better with CW-style combiners
2. If. If they're willing to actually abide by the Animated style, a Leader-class (to compensate for shrinkage) do-over of Animated Starscream. Most of the full-size Animated figures are masterful translations of the designs to plastic form. But Voyager Starscream... Voyager Starscream is noticeably iffy. His legs stick out too far from the aft (and/or the nose doesn't protrude enough) in jet mode, his wings can't be angled to their proper steepness in robot mode, and his guns are completely wrong and attached to the wrong parts of his arms. So a do-over would be welcome - as long as it abides by the style.
3. Signal Lancer.

By the way... Whoever it was that hates that Powerglide is a Mini-Vehicle... Are you familiar with this toy?

Re: Hasbro Designer Shows us there is no Back Kibble or Hollow Parts on Upcoming Tarn Figure (2146160)
Posted by primalxconvoy on October 2nd, 2022 @ 3:14am CDT

ZeldaTheSwordsman wrote:I don't
https://static.wikia.nocookie.net/fma/images/4/4f/Nina_ChimeraForm.jpg/revision/latest?cb=20081113020905&format=original
Anyway, the chimera in question can be seen here. I tried to embed, but Wikia is a butt about that it seems. And people are apparently comparing Lio Convoy to her.

You need to remove the "junk" from the image's url, after the ".jpg" part and then you can embed it:

Also, I've had problems with linking TFwiki pages at Seibertron, as (only this?) website doesn't include the extra characters after the subject term in the hyperlink (thus breaking it). I've had to manually remove the "junk" from them to post them here.

Re: Hasbro Designer Shows us there is no Back Kibble or Hollow Parts on Upcoming Tarn Figure (2146165)
Posted by Emerje on October 2nd, 2022 @ 7:03am CDT

primalxconvoy wrote:Also, I've had problems with linking TFwiki pages at Seibertron, as (only this?) website doesn't include the extra characters after the subject term in the hyperlink (thus breaking it). I've had to manually remove the "junk" from them to post them here.

It's the second parenthesis, something about the forum doesn't like them in address, I think it's related to the smilies.

Emerje

Re: Hasbro Designer Shows us there is no Back Kibble or Hollow Parts on Upcoming Tarn Figure (2146167)
Posted by primalxconvoy on October 2nd, 2022 @ 7:09am CDT

Emerje wrote:
primalxconvoy wrote:Also, I've had problems with linking TFwiki pages at Seibertron, as (only this?) website doesn't include the extra characters after the subject term in the hyperlink (thus breaking it). I've had to manually remove the "junk" from them to post them here.

It's the second parenthesis, something about the forum doesn't like them in address, I think it's related to the smilies.

Emerje

Not pictures*, but the URLs to character pages. For example:

- https://tfwiki.net/wiki/Great_War_(G1)

The above link was found by clicking on a few links at the main page. Notice that the last "bracket" from the URL has not been included in the hyperlink at Seibertron, resulting in a broken link.

Thus, we need to edit and remove the "excess" words from the original URL to make it work at Seibertron:

- https://tfwiki.net/wiki/Great_War

However, this will take use to the "disambiguation" page, making it all but impossible to directly link to to TFWiki page for the "G1 Great War" by simply copying and pasting the URL in a post at Seibertron.

*OP's original reply mentioned that they had no problems pasting images (from TFWiki), which my post was in response to.

Re: Hasbro Designer Shows us there is no Back Kibble or Hollow Parts on Upcoming Tarn Figure (2146168)
Posted by Emerje on October 2nd, 2022 @ 7:22am CDT

primalxconvoy wrote:
Emerje wrote:
primalxconvoy wrote:Also, I've had problems with linking TFwiki pages at Seibertron, as (only this?) website doesn't include the extra characters after the subject term in the hyperlink (thus breaking it). I've had to manually remove the "junk" from them to post them here.

It's the second parenthesis, something about the forum doesn't like them in address, I think it's related to the smilies.

Emerje

Not pictures, but the URLs to character pages. For example:

- https://tfwiki.net/wiki/Great_War_(G1)

The above link was found by clicking on a few links at the main page. Notice that the last "bracket" from the URL has not been included in the hyperlink at Seibertron, resulting in a broken link.

Thus, we need to edit and remove the "excess" words from the original URL to make it work at Seibertron:

- https://tfwiki.net/wiki/Great_War

However, this will take use to the "disambiguation" page, making it all but impossible to directly link to to TFWiki page for the "G1 Great War" by simply copying and pasting the URL in a post at Seibertron.

I know you tend to be quick on the draw when it comes to replying so I wondered if I'd be able to edit my post before you noticed. Apparently not, yet you somehow still quoted my rewrite. :lol:

Emerje

Re: Hasbro Designer Shows us there is no Back Kibble or Hollow Parts on Upcoming Tarn Figure (2146169)
Posted by -Kanrabat- on October 2nd, 2022 @ 7:26am CDT

The more I see pictures of Tarn, the more I'm exited!

And the weird thing is I never read the IDW comics nor care about them. Still, I think the IDW designs are among the best the TF universes offered.

Re: Hasbro Designer Shows us there is no Back Kibble or Hollow Parts on Upcoming Tarn Figure (2146170)
Posted by primalxconvoy on October 2nd, 2022 @ 7:28am CDT

Emerje wrote:I know you tend to be quick on the draw when it comes to replying so I wondered if I'd be able to edit my post before you noticed. Apparently not, yet you somehow still quoted my rewrite.

Emerje

I replied to the original, but my screen seemed to judder/refresh as I posted. I then noticed my original reply, yet with your addended one instead of the original I replied to. As such, I needed to add a disclaimer about the edit, as you had not. Usually, if such a substantial change has been made to a reply, it's usually prudent to admit to that. Something like "Changed due to inaccuracy, see reply below" or just the original reply, followed by "Edit: - ...", followed by new text with the changes.

Also, I'm not really "quick on the draw", but as I'm on mobile, all replies to threads I've replied to are emailed to me. It's another limitation of this site, as I would rather just see only replies to my own posts, and only see notifications at the site, rather than as email notifications. However, this isn't possible at Seibertron.

Re: Hasbro Designer Shows us there is no Back Kibble or Hollow Parts on Upcoming Tarn Figure (2146179)
Posted by Omegatron. on October 2nd, 2022 @ 8:10am CDT

primalxconvoy wrote:However, this will take use to the "disambiguation" page, making it all but impossible to directly link to to TFWiki page for the "G1 Great War" by simply copying and pasting the URL in a post at Seibertron.

I'm not sure why this board dislikes trailing brackets in URLs but you can bypass it by using the url embed syntax: For example

Code: Select all: [url=https://tfwiki.net/wiki/Optimus_Prime_(Armada)]For example[/url]

Re: Hasbro Designer Shows us there is no Back Kibble or Hollow Parts on Upcoming Tarn Figure (2146181)
Posted by primalxconvoy on October 2nd, 2022 @ 8:13am CDT

Omegatron. wrote:
primalxconvoy wrote:However, this will take use to the "disambiguation" page, making it all but impossible to directly link to to TFWiki page for the "G1 Great War" by simply copying and pasting the URL in a post at Seibertron.

I'm not sure why this board dislikes trailing brackets in URLs but you can bypass it by using the url embed syntax: For example
Code: Select all
[url=https://tfwiki.net/wiki/Optimus_Prime_(Armada)]For example[/url]

Thanks, but on mobile, that's a bit of a challenge, right?

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Posted by Drakehide on October 2nd, 2022 @ 8:49am CDT

I can't be the only one that sees it.

(This only encourages me to buy the figure tho, lmao)

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Posted by ZeroWolf on October 2nd, 2022 @ 9:37am CDT

primalxconvoy wrote:
Omegatron. wrote:
primalxconvoy wrote:However, this will take use to the "disambiguation" page, making it all but impossible to directly link to to TFWiki page for the "G1 Great War" by simply copying and pasting the URL in a post at Seibertron.

I'm not sure why this board dislikes trailing brackets in URLs but you can bypass it by using the url embed syntax: For example
Code: Select all
[url=https://tfwiki.net/wiki/Optimus_Prime_(Armada)]For example[/url]

Thanks, but on mobile, that's a bit of a challenge, right?

I don't have much issue on mobile doing that, even the Robot Kingdom newsletters urls sort themselves out without me having to do that.

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Posted by william-james88 on October 2nd, 2022 @ 10:51am CDT

-Kanrabat- wrote:The more I see pictures of Tarn, the more I'm exited!

And the weird thing is I never read the IDW comics nor care about them. Still, I think the IDW designs are among the best the TF universes offered.

They are but that's because some of the artists involved make a big effort to have designs that are "possible", like Alex Milne did with Tarn. He also designed a similar looking Bludgeon, which I will post about shortly in a news post. The artists also pay homage to G1 looks and keep the designs mechanical with standard proportions, so aside from maybe some features on the face, the body types based on IDW designs would fit well in a CHUG collection (as they indeed have in the past with Swerve, Ultra Magnus and Skids).

And for Tarn, the character design has since become a legacy design (meaning used in more than one place) so he's integrating himself into the all encompassing "G1" lore as either a high ranking decepticon or simply a perfect Decepticon soldier, which can also be an army builder (imagine a Prime vehicon on major steroids).

Nemesis Primal wrote:Yeah, that was my reaction as well. After that last batch of leaks I threw everything we had into an Excel sheet and actually counted it out into hypothetical waves based on the order they leaked in (and this is obviously outdated now that we know both the identity of the Commander/Titan and that Skyquake may have been pushed back) and posted it, and I think the conclusion that was reached amongst those who commented on it was that we might have 5-waves-worth of listings leaked.
legacy year 2.JPG

Not to be alarmist, but this will definitely cause a problem to fans who still preffer shopping at brick and mortar (which do include me and O.Supreme). With that kind of case loadout, we can't afford to skip a wave and have a bot resurface down the road. But that is cool of Hasbro to have such variety in the year, havent seen that since Combiner Wars.

Bounti76 wrote:Wait, who are the Commander and the Titan? And what's the deal with Leo Prime and FMA?

Commander is Armada prime, he's on the poster. Titan is not 100% clear though but a lot of evidence points towards it being the Nemesis to battle the Titan Ark bot and it's face would be what we see in the middle of the poster since that face is different from Tarn.

FMA refers to a show/manga called Full Metal Alchemist. I, my wife, and several others saw an instant resemblance to one of the more dramatic moments of the show when we saw Leo prime's lion face. Just search "full metal alchemist Nina Alexander" on google images to see if you see it to. It won't mean anything to you though, since it's more the twist that scars that image in our mind rather than just the look of it.

Speaking of Leo Prime, I still think they went the wrong way with the lion face. I wouldn't have expected them to go full cartoony ala the MP but I was looking at the original toy and that face is perfect middle ground which Hasbro should have gone for instead.

ZeldaTheSwordsman wrote:Anyway, the chimera in question can be seen here. I tried to embed, but Wikia is a butt about that

GOOD!

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Posted by ScottyP on October 2nd, 2022 @ 10:59am CDT

william-james88 wrote:Damit, was gonna close the laptop but I just HAD to check facebook like an social media adicted IDIOT before going to bed. And right there, opening it up is a pic of lio convoy being juxtaposed with that abomination from FMA. ****

Don't know if I was the first one to point it out, but it's gaining traction.

You'll enjoy the podcast that just went up :lol:

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Posted by Rodimus Prime on October 2nd, 2022 @ 11:03am CDT

Looking at the poster, my guess is the center face is not Tarn. Looks too different. A lot of assumption is that it's the face of the robot mode of the Nemesis, the Titan for next year. If so, IMO the face looks somewhat feminine. Which means the Nemesis could be a female, which I think would be awesome.

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Posted by Cyber Bishop on October 2nd, 2022 @ 11:06am CDT

Rodimus Prime wrote:IMO the face looks somewhat feminine. Which means the Nemesis could be a female, which I think would be awesome.

Fembots are always welcome in my collection! :-D

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Posted by Rodimus Prime on October 2nd, 2022 @ 11:10am CDT

Cyber Bishop wrote:
Rodimus Prime wrote:IMO the face looks somewhat feminine. Which means the Nemesis could be a female, which I think would be awesome.

Fembots are always welcome in my collection!

Not to mention the 1st female Titan! Even IDW didn't do that! Though I always thought Carcer could be female, considering Elita was in charge. I don't remember if it was ever stated what Carcer's pronoun was.

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Posted by william-james88 on October 2nd, 2022 @ 11:11am CDT

I will start off by saying that this is strictly speculation/educated guessing but we wanted to keep you in the loop in case you want to be as informed as possible about upcoming toys. We know we are getting a voyager Bludgeon toy in the Legacy Evolution line. And yesterday, the designer who worked on Tarn made a post regarding the Tarn figure where they stated that they had chosen to work closely with the comics team.

Here is what Mark maher wrote yesterday:

All hail Takara Tomy’s Yuya Onishi san! He has knocked this IDW’s comic appearance design originally drawn by Alex Milne straight out of the park! One of my mega priorities when I finally got into designing for the Generations segment of Transformers was to have biweekly meetings with our publishing team and our IDW partners. There’s one thing I love just as much as toys, its comics!

And last year, Alex Milne, the same comic artist that first designed Tarn, also shared his design for a Bludgeon, which as you will see has a very similar alt mode. So, we are simply putting two and two together here. Of course, Bludgeon could still be anything but you can't deny how big of a coincidence this is. And the timing lines up with having Bludgeon be at the design stage in 2021 and released in 2023 as a remold of Tarn, both by the same designer who we know already has a toy being made based off of one of his designs.

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Posted by Rodimus Prime on October 2nd, 2022 @ 11:16am CDT

So I went back and got a better look at Tarn's face, and now I'm not so sure about the center face on the poster being the Nemesis... It's probably Tarn.

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Posted by blackeyedprime on October 2nd, 2022 @ 11:30am CDT

Easy pass if that's what they decide to do for Bludgeon. Tarn looks great as Tarn. Bludgeon should look great as Bludgeon, until then I'll stick with his Baynus versions.

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Posted by SpaceEagle on October 2nd, 2022 @ 11:37am CDT

Eugh, yeah I'm really not a fan of this Bludgeon design and it'd stick out like a sore thumb compared to his other Pretender pals in Legacy. I really hope we get something closer to the original G1 design rather than this but I understand the possibility of this with the Tarn tooling.
I'm also hoping for something more geewun to at least replace the aging RotF Bludgeon mold (especially with its rubber treads that melt the plastic.)

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Posted by DeathReviews on October 2nd, 2022 @ 11:40am CDT

MCutter wrote:Has anyone pointed out Chopshop flying in among the Insecticon swarm? I'm guessing he'll be part of the next Buzzworthy 'collide' four-pack.

*edit: name of the four-pack

You can definitely see Chopshop and Venom there - and maybe Barrage if you squint hard. Will they count the Creatures Collide Ransack and not do a proper remold? Probably. Hopefully they'll do new molds for the remaining Deluxe Insecticons...

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Posted by SpaceEagle on October 2nd, 2022 @ 11:43am CDT

DeathReviews wrote:
MCutter wrote:Has anyone pointed out Chopshop flying in among the Insecticon swarm? I'm guessing he'll be part of the next Buzzworthy 'collide' four-pack.

*edit: name of the four-pack

You can definitely see Chopshop and Venom there - and maybe Barrage if you squint hard. Will they count the Creatures Collide Ransack and not do a proper remold? Probably. Hopefully they'll do new molds for the remaining Deluxe Insecticons...

For characters that are (sadly) very underused and unknown to some (thanks to Hasbro using molds of Takara's competitor at the time), I feel like the Deluxe Insecticons will end up being retools of the other 3 Insecticons (that had prominent media appearance and all that).
Except maybe Venom due to his bug mode not really being similar enough to Shrapnel, Kickback, or Bombshell. (I can see them attempting it with Kickback at best due to the big wings.)

Re: Hasbro Designer Shows us there is no Back Kibble or Hollow Parts on Upcoming Tarn Figure (2146219)
Posted by william-james88 on October 2nd, 2022 @ 11:44am CDT

Rodimus Prime wrote:So I went back and got a better look at Tarn's face, and now I'm not so sure about the center face on the poster being the Nemesis... It's probably Tarn.

Only reason why I'm not saying it's Tarn is because the designers hinted in the video that there was more to it.

Re: Hasbro Designer Shows us there is no Back Kibble or Hollow Parts on Upcoming Tarn Figure (2146220)
Posted by Rodimus Prime on October 2nd, 2022 @ 11:52am CDT

william-james88 wrote:
Rodimus Prime wrote:So I went back and got a better look at Tarn's face, and now I'm not so sure about the center face on the poster being the Nemesis... It's probably Tarn.

Only reason why I'm not saying it's Tarn is because the designers hinted in the video that there was more to it.

If Tarn could combine with the Nemesis that would be amazing.

Re: Hasbro Designer Shows us there is no Back Kibble or Hollow Parts on Upcoming Tarn Figure (2146221)
Posted by Razorbeast88 on October 2nd, 2022 @ 12:01pm CDT

I think im one of the few that actually likes Leo primes lion face haha. I dont mind the lifeless eyes though I do agree some black to trace some of the lines would look better

And tigatron was given pupils so I guess they could've done the same this time around, not sure why not

Re: Hasbro Designer Shows us there is no Back Kibble or Hollow Parts on Upcoming Tarn Figure (2146223)
Posted by william-james88 on October 2nd, 2022 @ 12:03pm CDT

We have a new post on Instagram from Evan, the Hasbro designer who presented the core class Dinos on friday. Firstly, it is funny how Hasbro clearly reads comments since they are all well aware that most of the excitement came from the reveals of Tarn and Lio Prime (even despite the lion face). There are 2 really cool pieces of info here that made me want to share this with you quickly. Firstly, Volcanicus will combine using 5 mm ports. That means that you can already combine him with other recent Generations toys, as shown in the images he shares.

Secondly, and most importantly, he states the following in terms of choosing 6 core class bots rather than 4 core limbs and 1 deluxe bot as the body:

Ultimately, we went with 6 core class bots and perhaps we’ll get some sort of future purposes out of these molds.

While Dinoking is not mentioned explicitly, this is undoubtedly what is being referred to since Dinoking is a small Dinosaur themed combiner from the G1 era which also had 6 equally sized bots combining together. And, while Volcanicus has Grimlock's T-rex as the centre piece, it is Slug's Triceratops head here, which more closely matches Dinoking's appearance in the Japanese show. Also, Hasbro is NOTORIOUS for "stay tuned" or "we'll see" nothing responses, so actually hinting at something on Social media, in an unpromted fashion, means there is something in play. Another big tell that Dinoking is coming is that the rumour for Skar's alt mode (we already know he's the 6th Dynobot) is it's an anklylosaurus. And that is the 6th dino shell used in the original toy (all other shells correspond to alt modes the other 5 Dinobots have, you can see an image below).

Now, here is the full statement from Instagram along with images of the post and extra images showing you Dinoking.

I hope you enjoyed our Pulse Con show and saw some things you can wait to get on your shelves. (Tarn and Lio Prime, right!?)

I wanted to show off the core class dinobots that we will be releasing throughout 2023.

I wanted to try and make a core class combiner since it’s been several years since we last did and thats a feature that I’ve always loved. I think that was the legends scale Abominus for Beast hunters!? Or the retooled version we did for Infernocus…feel free to correct me in the comments. Many robots merging to make a bigger robot is just the best and we have so many in our history that need updates. I guess this was something of an experiment?

When Shu san and I started to work on this, we also were having conversations with Hasui san on how best to implement it. We had talked about one of the bots being DLX class to be the main body while all the limbs are Core. Perhaps this is something we’ll look at doing in the future for other combiners at this scale if you all enjoy these bots. Ultimately, we went with 6 core class bots and perhaps we’ll get some sort of future purposes out of these molds.

Having 2 bots form the chest also gives it some nice dimension.

But anyway, here we have Slug and Sludge who form the torso of Volcanicus! They combine using 5mm ports so you can use all our other weaponizers, fossilizers, modulators and even the new Junkions to build with them!

From the pictures you’ll notice that we had to fuse their arms, removing their elbows for structural support for the combined mode but a few of the other dinobots will have elbows.

Obviously Sludge as well has a bit of Combiner kibble for his thighs but remember: “Thick bots do squats!” And he’s gonna deadlift this Gestalt with those thunderous thighs.

Thanks again for tuning in and we’ll try to post more to answer any questions you may have.

Thanks and I hope you enjoy,

-Evan

Transformers Victory Dinoking Gallery

Re: Hasbro Designer Shows us there is no Back Kibble or Hollow Parts on Upcoming Tarn Figure (2146224)
Posted by SpaceEagle on October 2nd, 2022 @ 12:15pm CDT

The comment about how other combiners "need updates" is probably as on-the-nose as it can get aside from outright saying "this will be retooled into Dinoking." :lol:

That's still pretty exciting, I know people would prefer a bigger Dinoking/Monstructor but I s'pose for how small the original toy(s) was(were) I think that's at least cute.

Re: Hasbro Designer Shows us there is no Back Kibble or Hollow Parts on Upcoming Tarn Figure (2146225)
Posted by Sigmus Prime on October 2nd, 2022 @ 12:17pm CDT

william-james88 wrote:Of course, Bludgeon could still be anything but you can't deny how big of a coincidence this is. And the timing lines up with having Bludgeon be at the design stage in 2021 and released in 2023 as a remold of Tarn, both by the same designer who we know already has a toy being made based off of one of his designs.

I would hope for some considerable retooling to Bludgeon, so that he looks more "G1 Pretender" and less "contemporary IDW". Would be unfortunate if he didn't gel well aesthetically with the other Pretenders they've released in Legacy so far.

Re: Hasbro Designer Shows us there is no Back Kibble or Hollow Parts on Upcoming Tarn Figure (2146226)
Posted by -Kanrabat- on October 2nd, 2022 @ 12:18pm CDT

Cyber Bishop wrote:
Rodimus Prime wrote:IMO the face looks somewhat feminine. Which means the Nemesis could be a female, which I think would be awesome.

Fembots are always welcome in my collection!

A fembot titan with genuinely feminine proportions and a minimal backpack would be not only awesome, but it would be quite a design feat!

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Posted by ZeldaTheSwordsman on October 2nd, 2022 @ 1:14pm CDT

william-james88 wrote:Speaking of Leo Prime, I still think they went the wrong way with the lion face. I wouldn't have expected them to go full cartoony ala the MP but I was looking at the original toy and that face is perfect middle ground which Hasbro should have gone for instead.

It makes me wonder whether they ran out of room on the white sprue. Or maybe they just thought the "glowing gold" look would be cooler.

I'm sure Aaron Archer would have gone for eyes more like the original toy if it could at all have been finagled, though.
...As an aside, can we take a moment to appreciate that the only version of Lio Convoy to have ears that aren't subsumed by the mane color, is the Leobreaker retool?

william-james88 wrote:
ZeldaTheSwordsman wrote:Anyway, the chimera in question can be seen here. I tried to embed, but Wikia is a butt about that

GOOD!

I suppose it's okay in this case for not setting off fellow FMA fans, but it's still irritating in a general sense that they've blocked image hotlinking.

Re: Hasbro Designer Shows us there is no Back Kibble or Hollow Parts on Upcoming Tarn Figure (2146232)
Posted by Rodimus Prime on October 2nd, 2022 @ 1:28pm CDT

-Kanrabat- wrote:
Cyber Bishop wrote:
Rodimus Prime wrote:IMO the face looks somewhat feminine. Which means the Nemesis could be a female, which I think would be awesome.

Fembots are always welcome in my collection!

A fembot titan with genuinely feminine proportions and a minimal backpack would be not only awesome, but it would be quite a design feat!

Yes it would. But as I said, upon further inspection my excitement was moot, I'm pretty sure that's Tarn on the poster.

Re: Hasbro Designer Shows us there is no Back Kibble or Hollow Parts on Upcoming Tarn Figure (2146234)
Posted by blackeyedprime on October 2nd, 2022 @ 1:35pm CDT

ZeldaTheSwordsman wrote:...As an aside, can we take a moment to appreciate that the only version of Lio Convoy to have ears that aren't subsumed by the mane color, is the Leobreaker retool?

Only if a moment is taken for the Takara Legends Lio Convoy too...

Re: Hasbro Designer Shows us there is no Back Kibble or Hollow Parts on Upcoming Tarn Figure (2146235)
Posted by ZeldaTheSwordsman on October 2nd, 2022 @ 1:41pm CDT

blackeyedprime wrote:
ZeldaTheSwordsman wrote:...As an aside, can we take a moment to appreciate that the only version of Lio Convoy to have ears that aren't subsumed by the mane color, is the Leobreaker retool?

Only if a moment is taken for the Takara Legends Lio Convoy too...

Oh. Oops

Re: Hasbro Designer Shows us there is no Back Kibble or Hollow Parts on Upcoming Tarn Figure (2146237)
Posted by Bounti76 on October 2nd, 2022 @ 1:56pm CDT

Cyber Bishop wrote:
Rodimus Prime wrote:IMO the face looks somewhat feminine. Which means the Nemesis could be a female, which I think would be awesome.

Fembots are always welcome in my collection!

I still think the Ark's face should have been Auntie, since she's the operating AI for the ship.

Re: Hasbro Designer Shows us there is no Back Kibble or Hollow Parts on Upcoming Tarn Figure (2146239)
Posted by Xenos Prime on October 2nd, 2022 @ 2:00pm CDT

Fingers crossed Dinobot #6 is an Ankylosaurus.

Re: Hasbro Designer Shows us there is no Back Kibble or Hollow Parts on Upcoming Tarn Figure (2146240)
Posted by Bounti76 on October 2nd, 2022 @ 2:01pm CDT

Rodimus Prime wrote::saint:
Cyber Bishop wrote:
Rodimus Prime wrote:IMO the face looks somewhat feminine. Which means the Nemesis could be a female, which I think would be awesome.

Fembots are always welcome in my collection!
Not to mention the 1st female Titan! Even IDW didn't do that! Though I always thought Carcer could be female, considering Elita was in charge. I don't remember if it was ever stated what Carcer's pronoun was.

Carcer turned out to be Vigilem, who's male. The first female Titan in Transformers history was Lodestar, in IDW 2018, though in that fiction, Cargohold is a female Titan who's older than Lodestar.

Re: Hasbro Designer Shows us there is no Back Kibble or Hollow Parts on Upcoming Tarn Figure (2146241)
Posted by blackeyedprime on October 2nd, 2022 @ 2:02pm CDT

Xenos Prime wrote:Fingers crossed Dinobot #6 is an Ankylosaurus.

Wouldnt really matter if it wasn't as they are going to need serious retooling to pull off dinoking anyways.

Re: Hasbro Designer Shows us there is no Back Kibble or Hollow Parts on Upcoming Tarn Figure (2146243)
Posted by Rodimus Prime on October 2nd, 2022 @ 2:04pm CDT

Bounti76 wrote:
Cyber Bishop wrote:
Rodimus Prime wrote:IMO the face looks somewhat feminine. Which means the Nemesis could be a female, which I think would be awesome.

Fembots are always welcome in my collection!

I still think the Ark's face should have been Auntie, since she's the operating AI for the ship.

Wasn't that only in the comics, though? In the cartoon it was Teletran-1. I don't remember WFC homaging comics much, especially not with something so pricy and high-profile. Which is probably why we never got the Last Autobot redeco, even though the Ark's face looks like it.

Re: Hasbro Designer Shows us there is no Back Kibble or Hollow Parts on Upcoming Tarn Figure (2146244)
Posted by ZeroWolf on October 2nd, 2022 @ 2:04pm CDT

Bounti76 wrote:
Cyber Bishop wrote:
Rodimus Prime wrote:IMO the face looks somewhat feminine. Which means the Nemesis could be a female, which I think would be awesome.

Fembots are always welcome in my collection!

I still think the Ark's face should have been Auntie, since she's the operating AI for the ship.

Then it would have lost the Last Autobot reference they were going for. I could see the last autobot being the priority with the character being in the last G1 Marvel comics issue

Re: Hasbro Designer Shows us there is no Back Kibble or Hollow Parts on Upcoming Tarn Figure (2146245)
Posted by william-james88 on October 2nd, 2022 @ 2:08pm CDT

blackeyedprime wrote:
Xenos Prime wrote:Fingers crossed Dinobot #6 is an Ankylosaurus.

Wouldnt really matter if it wasn't as they are going to need serious retooling to pull off dinoking anyways.

I wouldn't expect much retooling.

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