MP-12 Lambor Listed for Pre-Order at BBTS

Please Note The current $159.99 price for Sideswipe is an estimate from BBTS, we anticipate the actual retail price will be lower. Once official pricing is confirmed, we will adjust to final pricing.

Well it better be a subject to price change. oh yeah...it can always go up as well. They can't be that greedy can they?

Hopefully not.

DevastaTTor wrote:After seeing this year's upcoming MP-10 release from Hasbro, I'm thinking a $50 (give or take) US release of MP-12 is worth waiting for.

I can see it being fifty bucks on the domestic market. I'm still shocked that Hasbro is actually giving us Prime's trailer to go along with it.

$159.99 is pretty expensive for a Voyager.

TheCrookedMan wrote:$159.99 is pretty expensive for a Voyager.

I wouldn't say he's a Voyager. Probably somewhere in between a Voyager and a Leader. I can see where BBTS is coming up with its figures in price; seeing how it's foreign, probably more show-accurate, die-cast, etc. I agree the price is scandalous, but charging lower than $90 is a little bad for their business.

Mindmaster wrote:

TheCrookedMan wrote:$159.99 is pretty expensive for a Voyager.

I wouldn't say he's a Voyager. Probably somewhere in between a Voyager and a Leader. I can see where BBTS is coming up with its figures in price; seeing how it's foreign, probably more show-accurate, die-cast, etc. I agree the price is scandalous, but charging lower than $90 is a little bad for their business.

I've read it's been measured against MP-10 and it it comes out to 17 cm...so not quite 7 inches. Without the fig in front of me, I think that comes out to about Classics Prime size. If it's anywhere near $160, I won't be touching the Takara version.

I preordered, but if this doesn't drop in price, I'll be cancelling.

Considering they started the MP Sunstorm at 250 and it's now 170, I'd say their good on their promise to reduce pricing.,

Mkall wrote:Considering they started the MP Sunstorm at 250 and it's now 170, I'd say their good on their promise to reduce pricing.,

But...didn't they originally only reduce it to $220? Then they probably saw nobody was going to buy it from them so they dropped it further to $170.

For some Autobot I barely even know compared to Prowl,Sideswipe or Sunstreaker,that price isn't right at all. If this was MP Soundwave then we got a deal.

Wow I am very dissapointed with MP-12...Very box-ish, small(I expect him to be the same size as Starscream ATLEAST) and expensive...Takara you failed me T_T...Ah well guess I'll just have to wait for MP-13.

that price for that chest = GTFO

Kibble wrote:

Mkall wrote:Considering they started the MP Sunstorm at 250 and it's now 170, I'd say their good on their promise to reduce pricing.,

But...didn't they originally only reduce it to $220? Then they probably saw nobody was going to buy it from them so they dropped it further to $170.

I don't know the reasons for the further price reducing. Maybe it'll happen again in this case?

Time will tell.

Oh, absolutely not. This is a complete and total pass for me. I'll wait for the US version, or if it doesn't come, then I won't get one at all.

A figure this size, for that price? Ridiculous. I know the economy sucks all over, but this is just ridiculous.

Mkall wrote:Considering they started the MP Sunstorm at 250 and it's now 170, I'd say their good on their promise to reduce pricing.,

Haha - that's because not enough people were willing to preorder at $250.

I'm not getting this because I have no need for it. Other than that, it looks sweet. If you guys were loving boring crappy hot rod/rodimus, these looks so much better. Way more detail, turns into a countach, etc etc. If I had a ton of cash and room to show off more TFs, I'd get it.

Xephon0930 wrote:For some Autobot I barely even know compared to Prowl,Sideswipe or Sunstreaker...

Lambor IS Sideswipe, it's his Japanese name

Kibble wrote:

Mindmaster wrote:

TheCrookedMan wrote:$159.99 is pretty expensive for a Voyager.

I wouldn't say he's a Voyager. Probably somewhere in between a Voyager and a Leader. I can see where BBTS is coming up with its figures in price; seeing how it's foreign, probably more show-accurate, die-cast, etc. I agree the price is scandalous, but charging lower than $90 is a little bad for their business.

I've read it's been measured against MP-10 and it it comes out to 17 cm...so not quite 7 inches. Without the fig in front of me, I think that comes out to about Classics Prime size. If it's anywhere near $160, I won't be touching the Takara version.

Where is everyone getting these dimensions from? Out of curiosity.

That price had better be halved or I'm not buying.

Still waiting on masterpeice G1 Ironhide. If anyone needed a show acurate toy made...

I think the price is simply a placeholder to start getting pre-orders before other sites offer one. It's a good strategy, except that price is very misleading and probably off-putting to their target audience.

So far, there's been no official statement regarding price or if anything else is included with the figure (which I doubt there will be). However, one should safely assume that it won't cost as much as the MP-11 Starscream. so let's set the Starscream price, ensure sales early, and then drop the price once an official one is released.

Also, for those asking about the height of Lambor, check out this picture posted earlier today:

http://www.seibertron.com/images/toys/u ... 0_tfpy.jpg

Clearly to show that Lambor will be smaller than MP-10 Prime. I'm not sure what's going on with Takara, but Lambor shouldn't be shorter than Starscream, even if it means he's shorter than MP-10 Prime. I just wonder if all future releases will be shorter, or some might go back to the current MP size. Or even if we'll get back to the larger MP figure, like original Prime or Megs.

monstergrotusque wrote:

Kibble wrote:

Mindmaster wrote:

TheCrookedMan wrote:$159.99 is pretty expensive for a Voyager.

I wouldn't say he's a Voyager. Probably somewhere in between a Voyager and a Leader. I can see where BBTS is coming up with its figures in price; seeing how it's foreign, probably more show-accurate, die-cast, etc. I agree the price is scandalous, but charging lower than $90 is a little bad for their business.

I've read it's been measured against MP-10 and it it comes out to 17 cm...so not quite 7 inches. Without the fig in front of me, I think that comes out to about Classics Prime size. If it's anywhere near $160, I won't be touching the Takara version.

Where is everyone getting these dimensions from? Out of curiosity.

They are coming from this image:

Maybe they are trying to keep things in scale in regards to the alt. modes. The width of Sideswipes chest looks like its right compared to primes vehicle mode cab. Maybe by keeping Sideswipe smaller than Starscream, it'll look right when placed together in vehicle mode.

The scale makes sense and Takara had mentioend in an interview this past winter that they would be paid attention to scale in MP line going forward.

...Though I just realized that MP Hot Rod is bigger than MP Sideswipe.

$160!

I've paid stupid money for toys before, but I think I'll chance waiting for a US release.

I'm a bit disappointed with the size. An inch or two taller wouldnt have hurt. And while $160 seems steep I'm not suprised at all. I'll wait a while before putting my preorder in.

Although the price is ridiculous part of me KNEW this would happen. However I'm certain when and if this thing hits the US it'll be more like $50 plus/minus. I would NEVER pay that much for something that small.

Yeah, no way in hell I'm getting it at that price. I expect it to drop to $120, but it's quite possible that it won't. I'll gladly wait for a Hasbro release.

MINDVVIPE wrote:Maybe they are trying to keep things in scale in regards to the alt. modes. The width of Sideswipes chest looks like its right compared to primes vehicle mode cab. Maybe by keeping Sideswipe smaller than Starscream, it'll look right when placed together in vehicle mode.

Stormrider wrote:The scale makes sense and Takara had mentioend in an interview this past winter that they would be paid attention to scale in MP line going forward.

...Though I just realized that MP Hot Rod is bigger than MP Sideswipe.

If that's the case, MP Soundwave came out years ago. It was called WST Soundwave.

I'm liking the in scale, no mass shifting look they are going for. Starscream and the Seakers should tower over most of the Autobots/Decepticons if they have F15 alt modes.

Trikeboy wrote:

MINDVVIPE wrote:Maybe they are trying to keep things in scale in regards to the alt. modes. The width of Sideswipes chest looks like its right compared to primes vehicle mode cab. Maybe by keeping Sideswipe smaller than Starscream, it'll look right when placed together in vehicle mode.

Stormrider wrote:The scale makes sense and Takara had mentioend in an interview this past winter that they would be paid attention to scale in MP line going forward.

...Though I just realized that MP Hot Rod is bigger than MP Sideswipe.

If that's the case, MP Soundwave came out years ago. It was called WST Soundwave.

I'm liking the in scale, no mass shifting look they are going for. Starscream and the Seakers should tower over most of the Autobots/Decepticons if they have F15 alt modes.

Can't escape the mass shifting for megs, though. Unless you have little pip-squeeked high pitched megatron running around shooting up the place. And since his power is above them, he actually pushes them around. So he often hides in vents and waits for Starscream to go behind his back, then pops out and start chasing after SS benny hill style. I'm overstimulated....

To those who wanna know the size of MP-12, he's around RiD Megs size. I did a comparison with my MP-10 awhile ago. He's a Voyager class with the price of a Masterpiece...The world is seriously coming to an end~

PS : If the next MP is also Voyager size...I am losing any hope I have left for Takara >.>...

CrimsonPrime wrote:To those who wanna know the size of MP-12, he's around RiD Megs size. I did a comparison with my MP-10 awhile ago. He's a Voyager class with the price of a Masterpiece...The world is seriously coming to an end~

PS : If the next MP is also Voyager size...I am losing any hope I have left for Takara >.>...

Someone said that the bot mode of every MP after -10 will be in scale. If the next MP is Soundwave, it probably won't be that small.

I honestly don't get why scale is such a bad thing. It's not like Sideswipe will cost as much as the other MPs...

Whoah! The price seems too much for a voyager figure, I hope this comes with a lot of accessories though..

Kibble wrote:

Mindmaster wrote:

TheCrookedMan wrote:$159.99 is pretty expensive for a Voyager.

I wouldn't say he's a Voyager. Probably somewhere in between a Voyager and a Leader. I can see where BBTS is coming up with its figures in price; seeing how it's foreign, probably more show-accurate, die-cast, etc. I agree the price is scandalous, but charging lower than $90 is a little bad for their business.

I've read it's been measured against MP-10 and it it comes out to 17 cm...so not quite 7 inches. Without the fig in front of me, I think that comes out to about Classics Prime size. If it's anywhere near $160, I won't be touching the Takara version.

I just looked at the pic of mp-12 next to mp-10 and he comes up to the silver stripe on primes rib section so I took some voyager figures and started to line them up and voyager dotm prime seems like the best fit

orangeitis wrote:

CrimsonPrime wrote:To those who wanna know the size of MP-12, he's around RiD Megs size. I did a comparison with my MP-10 awhile ago. He's a Voyager class with the price of a Masterpiece...The world is seriously coming to an end~

PS : If the next MP is also Voyager size...I am losing any hope I have left for Takara >.>...

Someone said that the bot mode of every MP after -10 will be in scale. If the next MP is Soundwave, it probably won't be that small.

I honestly don't get why scale is such a bad thing. It's not like Sideswipe will cost as much as the other MPs...

I'm not sure if you're trying to be funny, or not, but Sideswipe's price is looking to be the same as, if not worse than some of the other MPs.

For a much smaller figure...

Autobot032 wrote:I'm not sure if you're trying to be funny, or not, but Sideswipe's price is looking to be the same as, if not worse than some of the other MPs.

For a much smaller figure...

No, I'm not trying to be funny.

Wait till we get a domestic release for like $35.

orangeitis wrote:

Autobot032 wrote:I'm not sure if you're trying to be funny, or not, but Sideswipe's price is looking to be the same as, if not worse than some of the other MPs.

For a much smaller figure...

No, I'm not trying to be funny.

Wait till we get a domestic release for like $35.

It already went from $150 to $130 on bbts it's gonna be less than $100 they gotta know no one would bay that much for a single voyager figure unless you were building hurcules lol

orangeitis wrote:

Autobot032 wrote:I'm not sure if you're trying to be funny, or not, but Sideswipe's price is looking to be the same as, if not worse than some of the other MPs.

For a much smaller figure...

No, I'm not trying to be funny.

Wait till we get a domestic release for like $35.

$35? Not a chance. TRU will carry it, again. They'll milk it for all it's worth. I have no doubt that if we do see it, it won't be available under $50.00...

Hotrodimust wrote:

orangeitis wrote:

Autobot032 wrote:I'm not sure if you're trying to be funny, or not, but Sideswipe's price is looking to be the same as, if not worse than some of the other MPs.

For a much smaller figure...

No, I'm not trying to be funny.

Wait till we get a domestic release for like $35.

It already went from $150 to $130 on bbts it's gonna be less than $100 they gotta know no one would bay that much for a single voyager figure unless you were building hurcules lol

First of all, it apparently can fit in MP-10's trailer, and standard Voyagers can't... it's more than likely deluxe-sized. Secondly, Hercules isn't even a Transformer, so it's unfair to even compare the two.

Autobot032 wrote:

orangeitis wrote:

Autobot032 wrote:I'm not sure if you're trying to be funny, or not, but Sideswipe's price is looking to be the same as, if not worse than some of the other MPs.

For a much smaller figure...

No, I'm not trying to be funny.

Wait till we get a domestic release for like $35.

$35? Not a chance. TRU will carry it, again. They'll milk it for all it's worth. I have no doubt that if we do see it, it won't be available under $50.00...

It's too small to be over $40 retail, IMO. It would be unreasonable to charge as much as an MP seeker for an MP carformer.

orangeitis wrote:

Hotrodimust wrote:

orangeitis wrote:

Autobot032 wrote:I'm not sure if you're trying to be funny, or not, but Sideswipe's price is looking to be the same as, if not worse than some of the other MPs.

For a much smaller figure...

No, I'm not trying to be funny.

Wait till we get a domestic release for like $35.

It already went from $150 to $130 on bbts it's gonna be less than $100 they gotta know no one would bay that much for a single voyager figure unless you were building hurcules lol

First of all, it apparently can fit in MP-10's trailer, and standard Voyagers can't... it's more than likely deluxe-sized. Secondly, Hercules isn't even a Transformer, so it's unfair to even compare the two.

Autobot032 wrote:

orangeitis wrote:

Autobot032 wrote:I'm not sure if you're trying to be funny, or not, but Sideswipe's price is looking to be the same as, if not worse than some of the other MPs.

For a much smaller figure...

No, I'm not trying to be funny.

Wait till we get a domestic release for like $35.

$35? Not a chance. TRU will carry it, again. They'll milk it for all it's worth. I have no doubt that if we do see it, it won't be available under $50.00...

It's too small to be over $40 retail, IMO. It would be unreasonable to charge as much as an MP seeker for an MP carformer.

Um first of all yes a voyager will fit in mp 10s trailer I fit my altinator silverstreak in fine and they see people are will to spend a $100 a 3rd party voyager figure why not charge that for official product. But that must be to much for you to comprehend. Hercules isn't a TF LOL what is it a gi joe just because it's not made by takara and hasbro dosnt make it any less of a TF to me. I actually enjoy a lot of 3rd party stuff over the official

Hotrodimust wrote:Um first of all yes a voyager will fit in mp 10s trailer I fit my altinator silverstreak in fine and they see people are will to spend a $100 a 3rd party voyager figure why not charge that for official product. But that must be to much for you to comprehend. Hercules isn't a TF LOL what is it a gi joe just because it's not made by takara and hasbro dosnt make it any less of a TF to me. I actually enjoy a lot of 3rd party stuff over the official

Dude, do you have to be such a jerk?

Well to you, Hercules might be a TF, but officially, it's just another transforming robot that looks like a TF. You can believe what you want, but don't argue with the presupposition that those beliefs are a fact.

Also, Takara's MP-10 was like $250 online. Hasbro's retail MP-10 is $100, which is only 40% of Takara's price tag. If Takara's MP-12 is $100 now, it won't be more than $40 when it's released domestically. Do the smurfin' math.

Hotrodimust wrote:But that must be to much for you to comprehend.

This crap? Again? Knock it off! I mean it!

orangeitis wrote:

Hotrodimust wrote:Um first of all yes a voyager will fit in mp 10s trailer I fit my altinator silverstreak in fine and they see people are will to spend a $100 a 3rd party voyager figure why not charge that for official product. But that must be to much for you to comprehend. Hercules isn't a TF LOL what is it a gi joe just because it's not made by takara and hasbro dosnt make it any less of a TF to me. I actually enjoy a lot of 3rd party stuff over the official

Dude, do you have to be such a jerk?

Well to you, Hercules might be a TF, but officially, it's just another transforming robot that looks like a TF. You can believe what you want, but don't argue with the presupposition that those beliefs are a fact.

Also, Takara's MP-10 was like $250 online. Hasbro's retail MP-10 is $100, which is only 40% of Takara's price tag. If Takara's MP-12 is $100 now, it won't be more than $40 when it's released domestically. Do the smurfin' math.

So a 40% reduction in price is a guarantee you must work for hasbro now or did you break it down to a science. And who said it will release in America hasbro knows a prime figure will sell how about we see if SS makes it to the states b4 we start guessing pricing on a figure that might not sell to well and not make it to the states

Hotrodimust wrote:

orangeitis wrote:

Hotrodimust wrote:Um first of all yes a voyager will fit in mp 10s trailer I fit my altinator silverstreak in fine and they see people are will to spend a $100 a 3rd party voyager figure why not charge that for official product. But that must be to much for you to comprehend. Hercules isn't a TF LOL what is it a gi joe just because it's not made by takara and hasbro dosnt make it any less of a TF to me. I actually enjoy a lot of 3rd party stuff over the official

Dude, do you have to be such a jerk?

Well to you, Hercules might be a TF, but officially, it's just another transforming robot that looks like a TF. You can believe what you want, but don't argue with the presupposition that those beliefs are a fact.

Also, Takara's MP-10 was like $250 online. Hasbro's retail MP-10 is $100, which is only 40% of Takara's price tag. If Takara's MP-12 is $100 now, it won't be more than $40 when it's released domestically. Do the smurfin' math.

So a 40% reduction in price is a guarantee you must work for hasbro now or did you break it down to a science. And who said it will release in America hasbro knows a prime figure will sell how about we see if SS makes it to the states b4 we start guessing pricing on a figure that might not sell to well and not make it to the states

Outside of Megatron (because he's a very realistic looking handgun) and Rodimus (because his trailer was omitted), we've received every single Masterpiece mold in one form or another. Optimus, Starscream, Skywarp, Rodimus, Grimlock, have all seen releases here in the US. Sideswipe has nothing on him to prohibit a release, such as Megatron, and nothing needs to be modified, such as Rodimus. Given the track record, we have every reason to assume we'll receive a US release.

Hotrodimust wrote:

orangeitis wrote:

Hotrodimust wrote:Um first of all yes a voyager will fit in mp 10s trailer I fit my altinator silverstreak in fine and they see people are will to spend a $100 a 3rd party voyager figure why not charge that for official product. But that must be to much for you to comprehend. Hercules isn't a TF LOL what is it a gi joe just because it's not made by takara and hasbro dosnt make it any less of a TF to me. I actually enjoy a lot of 3rd party stuff over the official

Dude, do you have to be such a jerk?

Well to you, Hercules might be a TF, but officially, it's just another transforming robot that looks like a TF. You can believe what you want, but don't argue with the presupposition that those beliefs are a fact.

Also, Takara's MP-10 was like $250 online. Hasbro's retail MP-10 is $100, which is only 40% of Takara's price tag. If Takara's MP-12 is $100 now, it won't be more than $40 when it's released domestically. Do the smurfin' math.

So a 40% reduction in price is a guarantee you must work for hasbro now or did you break it down to a science. And who said it will release in America hasbro knows a prime figure will sell how about we see if SS makes it to the states b4 we start guessing pricing on a figure that might not sell to well and not make it to the states

I made a reasonable assessment based on the statistics. What have you got?

orangeitis wrote:

Hotrodimust wrote:

orangeitis wrote:

Hotrodimust wrote:Um first of all yes a voyager will fit in mp 10s trailer I fit my altinator silverstreak in fine and they see people are will to spend a $100 a 3rd party voyager figure why not charge that for official product. But that must be to much for you to comprehend. Hercules isn't a TF LOL what is it a gi joe just because it's not made by takara and hasbro dosnt make it any less of a TF to me. I actually enjoy a lot of 3rd party stuff over the official

Dude, do you have to be such a jerk?

Well to you, Hercules might be a TF, but officially, it's just another transforming robot that looks like a TF. You can believe what you want, but don't argue with the presupposition that those beliefs are a fact.

Also, Takara's MP-10 was like $250 online. Hasbro's retail MP-10 is $100, which is only 40% of Takara's price tag. If Takara's MP-12 is $100 now, it won't be more than $40 when it's released domestically. Do the smurfin' math.

So a 40% reduction in price is a guarantee you must work for hasbro now or did you break it down to a science. And who said it will release in America hasbro knows a prime figure will sell how about we see if SS makes it to the states b4 we start guessing pricing on a figure that might not sell to well and not make it to the states

I made a reasonable assessment based on the statistics. What have you got?

A life

Hotrodimust wrote:

orangeitis wrote:

Hotrodimust wrote:

orangeitis wrote:

Hotrodimust wrote:Um first of all yes a voyager will fit in mp 10s trailer I fit my altinator silverstreak in fine and they see people are will to spend a $100 a 3rd party voyager figure why not charge that for official product. But that must be to much for you to comprehend. Hercules isn't a TF LOL what is it a gi joe just because it's not made by takara and hasbro dosnt make it any less of a TF to me. I actually enjoy a lot of 3rd party stuff over the official

Dude, do you have to be such a jerk?

Well to you, Hercules might be a TF, but officially, it's just another transforming robot that looks like a TF. You can believe what you want, but don't argue with the presupposition that those beliefs are a fact.

Also, Takara's MP-10 was like $250 online. Hasbro's retail MP-10 is $100, which is only 40% of Takara's price tag. If Takara's MP-12 is $100 now, it won't be more than $40 when it's released domestically. Do the smurfin' math.

So a 40% reduction in price is a guarantee you must work for hasbro now or did you break it down to a science. And who said it will release in America hasbro knows a prime figure will sell how about we see if SS makes it to the states b4 we start guessing pricing on a figure that might not sell to well and not make it to the states

I made a reasonable assessment based on the statistics. What have you got?

A life

Yes, we are all living. But that don't help in your argument.

Again, what have you got to support your argument?

I just want Hasbro to take a bunch of pictures with Sideswipe and Prime's trailer to just end this debate and get people to stop saying it's going to be a deluxe.

Also, I'd guess the price either around 60 or less for the US market. It could be more depending on how it is marketed. I've seen crazier things. But who cares until we actually get prices. Not like talking about the price is going to make a difference unless your actually counting the pennies in your pocket for saving up.

orangeitis wrote:

Hotrodimust wrote:

orangeitis wrote:

Hotrodimust wrote:

orangeitis wrote:

Hotrodimust wrote:Um first of all yes a voyager will fit in mp 10s trailer I fit my altinator silverstreak in fine and they see people are will to spend a $100 a 3rd party voyager figure why not charge that for official product. But that must be to much for you to comprehend. Hercules isn't a TF LOL what is it a gi joe just because it's not made by takara and hasbro dosnt make it any less of a TF to me. I actually enjoy a lot of 3rd party stuff over the official

Dude, do you have to be such a jerk?

Well to you, Hercules might be a TF, but officially, it's just another transforming robot that looks like a TF. You can believe what you want, but don't argue with the presupposition that those beliefs are a fact.

Also, Takara's MP-10 was like $250 online. Hasbro's retail MP-10 is $100, which is only 40% of Takara's price tag. If Takara's MP-12 is $100 now, it won't be more than $40 when it's released domestically. Do the smurfin' math.

So a 40% reduction in price is a guarantee you must work for hasbro now or did you break it down to a science. And who said it will release in America hasbro knows a prime figure will sell how about we see if SS makes it to the states b4 we start guessing pricing on a figure that might not sell to well and not make it to the states

I made a reasonable assessment based on the statistics. What have you got?

A life

Yes, we are all living. But that don't help in your argument.

Again, what have you got to support your argument?

What I said to begging with wasn't ment to be an argument that's what you made it do have a nice night

TheCrookedMan wrote:$159.99 is pretty expensive for a Voyager.

Indeed, let's hope that he got a little more Diecast parts on him, than the other Masterpieces...But he looks awesome anyway.

Hotrodimust wrote:

orangeitis wrote:

Hotrodimust wrote:

orangeitis wrote:

Hotrodimust wrote:Um first of all yes a voyager will fit in mp 10s trailer I fit my altinator silverstreak in fine and they see people are will to spend a $100 a 3rd party voyager figure why not charge that for official product. But that must be to much for you to comprehend. Hercules isn't a TF LOL what is it a gi joe just because it's not made by takara and hasbro dosnt make it any less of a TF to me. I actually enjoy a lot of 3rd party stuff over the official

Dude, do you have to be such a jerk?

Well to you, Hercules might be a TF, but officially, it's just another transforming robot that looks like a TF. You can believe what you want, but don't argue with the presupposition that those beliefs are a fact.

Also, Takara's MP-10 was like $250 online. Hasbro's retail MP-10 is $100, which is only 40% of Takara's price tag. If Takara's MP-12 is $100 now, it won't be more than $40 when it's released domestically. Do the smurfin' math.

So a 40% reduction in price is a guarantee you must work for hasbro now or did you break it down to a science. And who said it will release in America hasbro knows a prime figure will sell how about we see if SS makes it to the states b4 we start guessing pricing on a figure that might not sell to well and not make it to the states

I made a reasonable assessment based on the statistics. What have you got?

A life

Well done my friend, a staff member tells you to stop doing this and here you go and do it again.
This earns you a warning, of which you will also be notified via a pm.