Takara Tomy Transformers Legends LG31 Fortress Maximus Images

Railbomb wrote:You know, thinking about it now I'm surprised Takara didn't give him a large rifle-type thing like he had originally and is actually on the U.S. box art.

Sabrblade wrote:

Railbomb wrote:You know, thinking about it now I'm surprised Takara didn't give him a large rifle-type thing like he had originally and is actually on the U.S. box art.

Japanese Fort Max had different box art depicting him wielding his sword instead of a gun. And his Japanese fiction portrayals never had him using his toy's guns, as he was strictly a sword-wielding bot in Japan.

RiddlerJ wrote:Given all the discussion over Takara's remolding on the Technobots, it's a little strange they didn't do more to fix Fort Max. The sword is nice, but there's a lot of flaws a little extra work could've fixed. Ramps that went all the way to the ground, extra guns to complete the battle station mode, wheels...

Kurona wrote:

RiddlerJ wrote:Given all the discussion over Takara's remolding on the Technobots, it's a little strange they didn't do more to fix Fort Max. The sword is nice, but there's a lot of flaws a little extra work could've fixed. Ramps that went all the way to the ground, extra guns to complete the battle station mode, wheels...

Well... there's a big difference between retooling a voyager and some deluxes and retooling a titan

Kurona wrote:

RiddlerJ wrote:Given all the discussion over Takara's remolding on the Technobots, it's a little strange they didn't do more to fix Fort Max. The sword is nice, but there's a lot of flaws a little extra work could've fixed. Ramps that went all the way to the ground, extra guns to complete the battle station mode, wheels...

Well... there's a big difference between retooling a voyager and some deluxes and retooling a titan

fenrir72 wrote:Who is the red robot in the second image. Fortress comes with a gun? (Fortress as in the transformed head not the super mode)

Kurona wrote:

RiddlerJ wrote:Given all the discussion over Takara's remolding on the Technobots, it's a little strange they didn't do more to fix Fort Max. The sword is nice, but there's a lot of flaws a little extra work could've fixed. Ramps that went all the way to the ground, extra guns to complete the battle station mode, wheels...

Well... there's a big difference between retooling a voyager and some deluxes and retooling a titan

william-james88 wrote:

Kurona wrote:

RiddlerJ wrote:Given all the discussion over Takara's remolding on the Technobots, it's a little strange they didn't do more to fix Fort Max. The sword is nice, but there's a lot of flaws a little extra work could've fixed. Ramps that went all the way to the ground, extra guns to complete the battle station mode, wheels...

Well... there's a big difference between retooling a voyager and some deluxes and retooling a titan

They retooled Devastator and he was a titan.

That Bot wrote:Changing a sound box does nothing to the tooling of the mold, ergo it is by definition not a retool.

Sabrblade wrote:

That Bot wrote:Changing a sound box does nothing to the tooling of the mold, ergo it is by definition not a retool.

The little Headmaster is retooled.

That Bot wrote:

Sabrblade wrote:

That Bot wrote:Changing a sound box does nothing to the tooling of the mold, ergo it is by definition not a retool.

The little Headmaster is retooled.

I am aware that Takara gave him a Fortress head instead of a Cerebros head, but that is separate from the specific suggestion that altering the sound box qualified as a retooling.

Sabrblade wrote:

That Bot wrote:

Sabrblade wrote:

That Bot wrote:Changing a sound box does nothing to the tooling of the mold, ergo it is by definition not a retool.

The little Headmaster is retooled.

I am aware that Takara gave him a Fortress head instead of a Cerebros head, but that is separate from the specific suggestion that altering the sound box qualified as a retooling.

Who said the sound box's noises being different qualified as a retool?

Kurona wrote:

william-james88 wrote:

Kurona wrote:

RiddlerJ wrote:Given all the discussion over Takara's remolding on the Technobots, it's a little strange they didn't do more to fix Fort Max. The sword is nice, but there's a lot of flaws a little extra work could've fixed. Ramps that went all the way to the ground, extra guns to complete the battle station mode, wheels...

Well... there's a big difference between retooling a voyager and some deluxes and retooling a titan

They retooled Devastator and he was a titan.

Right, but he came in parts and was a considerably smaller titan, right? They were essentially just retooling some voyagers.

In any case though they probably could have done some minor retooling - heck, if you want to count it I guess giving him different sounds is retooling. I think? I dunno. But I don't think they could've done anything as major as ramps and extra guns.

Sigma Magnus wrote:

fenrir72 wrote:Who is the red robot in the second image. Fortress comes with a gun? (Fortress as in the transformed head not the super mode)

Wheelie. And the gun is the turret inside the clear-blue chest compartment...thing.

That Bot wrote:Changing a sound box does nothing to the tooling of the mold, ergo it is by definition not a retool.

Legends Max looks nice, but I think I'll just get the US version this time around. A modestly different deco on a guy I have no attachment to isn't worth the extra dough to me.

Sabrblade wrote:Who said the sound box's noises being different qualified as a retool?

Kurona wrote:Yeah. If it happened, it'd be really cool; but certainly don't hold your breath.

RAR wrote:I notice a lot of people buy toys to "experience them" then sell them soon afterwards and buy something else - that is one way some have a through-put that seems to give them the illusion of being millionaires or something.

JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:For those are a bit confused: the last, black and white comic with the numbered bots, that's a reference to the numbered Sweeps as they're based on Fracas/Nightstick. Each has his own personality traits, with poor number 4 reduced to a mere ghost.

Nik Hero wrote:Does anyone have a translation?

RAR wrote:I notice a lot of people buy toys to "experience them" then sell them soon afterwards and buy something else - that is one way some have a through-put that seems to give them the illusion of being millionaires or something.

Nik Hero wrote:Does anyone have a translation?

Starsaber468 wrote:Hope somebody translates the manga as in changing the language of the texts from japanese to english instead of just somebody saying whats happening

1984forever wrote:

RAR wrote:I notice a lot of people buy toys to "experience them" then sell them soon afterwards and buy something else - that is one way some have a through-put that seems to give them the illusion of being millionaires or something.

Well, they have more patience than me because I used to throw unwanted figures in the trash. When my son became of age I started throwing them in his toybox. SDCC FoC Bruticus landed there along with UW-05 minus Sunstreaker and Mirage. He's into Minecraft now so Transformers i've "experienced" are winding up on the curb again. I briefly considered getting Legends Scourge along with 3 of the Hasbro releases to act as Sweeps but I just can't get past that Headmaster gimmick. I've pretty much given up on having a decent TFTM display.

That Bot wrote:

Nik Hero wrote:Does anyone have a translation?

Starsaber468 wrote:Hope somebody translates the manga as in changing the language of the texts from japanese to english instead of just somebody saying whats happening

Give it time.

Sabrblade wrote:

That Bot wrote:

Nik Hero wrote:Does anyone have a translation?

Starsaber468 wrote:Hope somebody translates the manga as in changing the language of the texts from japanese to english instead of just somebody saying whats happening

Give it time.

I wouldn't count on it. These online Legends manga chapters have had 39 made so far and of those 39 chapters, only one of them, Chapter 33, has been fully translated in English. No one seems to be regularly translating the online manga chapters, or any of the pack-in ones.

The Grand Galvatron Chapter comic, however, was translated, but not the Lynxmaster Chapter comic.

chuckdawg1999 wrote:Correct me if I'm wrong but wasn't Chromedome the leader of the Headmasters in the Japanese cartoon? Fort Max was the overall big cheese but Chromedome handled field command?

Gen. Hawk is to Duke as Fort Max is to Chromedome?

chuckdawg1999 wrote:Correct me if I'm wrong but wasn't Chromedome the leader of the Headmasters in the Japanese cartoon? Fort Max was the overall big cheese but Chromedome handled field command?

Gen. Hawk is to Duke as Fort Max is to Chromedome?

Randomhero wrote:Does anyone know where you can still order a scourge? I've checked most places but it's all out of stock preorders.

Optimum Supreme wrote:Hmmm... I think I prefer Hasbro's Scourge.

william-james88 wrote:

Optimum Supreme wrote:Hmmm... I think I prefer Hasbro's Scourge.

I do too, the vehicle mode rocks on Hasbro's version!

As for the Robot mode, I find both as dull. Takara breaks up the colour a bit, but not enough, and thas because they'd rather stick to the animation model.

If anyone asked me which one below was the Takara one, and i didnt know, I wouldsay the one on the right simply because it has more dtail highlighted in paint apps, especially those nice paint apps on the side with silver and dark blue.

leokearon wrote:Having seen a couple of pics of Cancer/Crashbash being used instead of Lokos, exactly how well do the Titan Masters work as Headmaster Jr heads

In 2021, the Autobot Second Army has activated the transtector factory in G Nebula 89, and though they're routing all their energy into the factory's operations and thus run the risk of being unable to defend it, Grand Maximus insists that they must do their part of the plan to resurrect Optimus Prime on Cybertron. His own contribution is to implement the "Super Convoy Project", a plan to recreate the transtector that was meant for Prime but turned into Ginrai, but first he must find shelter for Cancer, Bullhorn, Wilder and Clouder, who've smuggled themselves into the base in search of new transtectors following their final battle.

With the base under siege by Overlord's troops and the space bridge network broken, Grand believes the only place where the humans can be safe is in the Legends Universe, and coordinates the opening of a portal with Fortress (who is less than enthused to receive the humans, but relents when his brother calls him out on getting too used to a peaceful life). Arriving in the Legends world, the former Headmaster Juniors are reunited with their Autobot counterparts, Minerva, Cab and Shūta, who explain that they joined Fortress's crew in search of them. As an apology for making them worry, Bullhorn presents them with new Headmaster-Braces that let them turn into Headmasters again. At that moment, Shockwave appears in the Legends Universe in search of Megatron, and marks Cancer as imperative to his plan...

JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:

william-james88 wrote:

Optimum Supreme wrote:Hmmm... I think I prefer Hasbro's Scourge.

I do too, the vehicle mode rocks on Hasbro's version!

As for the Robot mode, I find both as dull. Takara breaks up the colour a bit, but not enough, and thas because they'd rather stick to the animation model.

If anyone asked me which one below was the Takara one, and i didnt know, I wouldsay the one on the right simply because it has more dtail highlighted in paint apps, especially those nice paint apps on the side with silver and dark blue.

I still like the TakaraTomy vehicle mode more, since the deco looks more... focused? As in, no random paint apps just for the sake of bringing out detail and accenting. As artists can attest, too many accents can bury the total look from view.