Top 5 Best Personal Weapons Amongst Transformers Toys
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Every two weeks, Seibertron.com brings you a Top 5 list related to all things Transformers written by me, your fellow editor. These are my opinions (just like movie or game reviews hosted by sites are still just the opinion of one person) so what matters most is what you guys think of the topic or list, and I hope to see your own lists or comments on omissions and ranking. Let's have fun! All previous lists can be found here.
Top 5 Best Personal Weapons
This is actually a list inspired by a request from Seibertron's own Rodimus Prime, the first request I ever got. What I tried my best to do with this list was have a strong link between how special the weapon is in toy form and in the fiction and how it's associated to the character. It was tricky but I am very satisfied with this list, even though I didn't include Optimus Prime's Ion Blaster. So of course, there will be a lot of varying opinions.
5. Armada Starscream's Sword(s)
Armada Starscream was a major update from the G1 character and a very different interpretation. One of the biggest changes was making him more of a master swordsman and this was reflected in his sleeker look and the need to incorporate the sword theme in his toy. One of his wings could actually become a sword!
The sword motif became such an important component of the character at the time that the first Masterpiece Starscream toy took influence from this change in the character by integrating sword sheaths in the design. When a new version of the character was released in toy form for the generations line, the swords were also the biggest change and update between the toys. Instead of having his wing become a sword, Hasbro found a way of storing not one but two swords under his wings for a more complete swordsman look in robot mode.
4. Silverbolt's feather swords
This is just a really fun weapon that is perfectly associated with the character. He's a flying dog and thus has feathered wings. And in robot mode his largest feathers become swords, or batons, and they still look like feathers. And that effect is perfectly recreated in the toy. It's such a unique weapon for this big softy!
3. Springer's Propeller Sword
The G1 Springer toy was pretty smart to not only have the helicopter transform into a car and a robot but to have its propeller transform into a sword for the robot. Not only did it simultaneously reduce kibble in robot mode while being able to store the weapon in alt mode by being part of the transformation, but it also made for a pretty cool weapon. Since then, Springer has been linked to that sword. The triple changer generations update of Springer kept that very same motif and the propeller sword looked even better than ever. It's a little engineering marvel on that toy. The Springer release that really seals the deal in terms of his association with his sword is the GDO retool of Hunt For The Decepticons Tomahawk. That's because unlike a standard retool of changing the colour and the head, but they also added a sword to the package, made just for him.
2. Rhinox's chainguns of Doom!
I don't know if anyone predicted this would be first but when this topic was brought up by fellow board member Rodimus Prime, my first thought was this entry, the number one spot: The Chainguns of Doom. The Beast Wars toys were made before the show and thus the character model was based off the toy with some changes, and his personality was totally different than the brutish beast depicted in the toy's bio and tech specs. Instead, Beast Wars Rhinox was a calm and gentle giant, as well as the backbone of the team. However, the toy did come with a pretty cool weapon that was assembled using four components hidden all throughout the beast mode such as chains, a saw blade and a motor. While this badass weapon may have conflicted with the kind of character he was initially portrayed to be, it made for a greater impact when the showrunners had Rhinox use not one but two of these weapons on the show as part of his main artillery. He may be calm and strategic but he would not stand for tyranny and understood that you needed to cover your friends sometimes, by using giant machine guns with chains and spiked balls attached to them. Not only did he have a big brain but he had the firepower to go with it, helping him protect his friends and all he held dear. The Generations figure updated him to finally be the right size, as well as making him more accurate to how he looked like on the show including, you guessed it, giving him TWO chainguns of doom!
1. Megatron's Fusion Cannon
You know, I didn't think of this at first. All these other weapons could be wielded by others and usually have 5 mm pegs. But with Megatron, that fusion cannon is just fused to the guy. It's an extension of his body and what he unleashes his immense firepower from. It is probably the most powerful weapon (bar the Matrix) and definitely the most personal one. Also far more iconic than Optimus' black rifle, personal opinion of course. And now, here is a showcase of the many interpretations, enjoy!
Transformers War For Cybertron Cybertronian Megatron Gallery
Transformers G1 1984 Megatron (Reissue) Gallery
Transformers Generations Combiner Wars Megatron Gallery
Transformers Masterpiece Megatron (MP-05) Gallery
Transformers Animated Megatron Gallery
Transformers Prime: First Edition Megatron Gallery
Transformers Generations Megatron Gallery
Transformers Henkei Megatron Gallery
Honourable mentions: Dark of the Moon Megatron's Shotgun
If anyone cares, I was going to put Optimus' Ion Blaster here but I changed my mind. Even though I have my fair share of Optimus toys, which include his blaster, I never really liked it with Optimus. It feels so impersonal and partly uncharacteristic, and it was never a great looking or distinctive gun. It's just a big black gun that this wise and honourable emissary of peace (which is what he's been portrayed as in recent attempts to carry on G1 fiction) carries around with him. Would he really use a big gun to just blast someone's head off?
Well, the third Bay movie answered that quite well. BUT though his actions are hard to debate (there isn't much subtlety to Optimus murdering a defeated Sentinel Prime), I found it really interesting how he did it using Megatron's gun. You see, that giant impersonal gun is something Megatron would have lieing around and suits him far more than Optimus. My favourite part of all this is how this whole scenario played out in the toyline. This big shotgun in the pictures below did not come with the Megatron toy in the Dark of the Moon toyline (for the film this scene comes from). It didn't come with Optimus either. It actually came from the next movie's toyline (Age of Extinction), three years later, even though it was never featured in that film. And it came as Optimus' gun without any mention of Megatron, even though it is compatible with the old Megatron toy (see the pictures). So not only was that murder scene fans were up in arms about reinforced by cementing Optimus' connection with this giant shotgun, but it could also now be reenacted three years later with official Hasbro merchansidise. This gets the number 5 spot because it's just such an odd choice to go the extra mile in adding to Optimus' connection with this weapon and this attitude of his, even though it's uncharacteristic of the character to begin with. In the end, it's pretty awesome how this all played out.
Top 5 Best Personal Weapons
This is actually a list inspired by a request from Seibertron's own Rodimus Prime, the first request I ever got. What I tried my best to do with this list was have a strong link between how special the weapon is in toy form and in the fiction and how it's associated to the character. It was tricky but I am very satisfied with this list, even though I didn't include Optimus Prime's Ion Blaster. So of course, there will be a lot of varying opinions.
5. Armada Starscream's Sword(s)
Armada Starscream was a major update from the G1 character and a very different interpretation. One of the biggest changes was making him more of a master swordsman and this was reflected in his sleeker look and the need to incorporate the sword theme in his toy. One of his wings could actually become a sword!
The sword motif became such an important component of the character at the time that the first Masterpiece Starscream toy took influence from this change in the character by integrating sword sheaths in the design. When a new version of the character was released in toy form for the generations line, the swords were also the biggest change and update between the toys. Instead of having his wing become a sword, Hasbro found a way of storing not one but two swords under his wings for a more complete swordsman look in robot mode.
4. Silverbolt's feather swords
This is just a really fun weapon that is perfectly associated with the character. He's a flying dog and thus has feathered wings. And in robot mode his largest feathers become swords, or batons, and they still look like feathers. And that effect is perfectly recreated in the toy. It's such a unique weapon for this big softy!
3. Springer's Propeller Sword
The G1 Springer toy was pretty smart to not only have the helicopter transform into a car and a robot but to have its propeller transform into a sword for the robot. Not only did it simultaneously reduce kibble in robot mode while being able to store the weapon in alt mode by being part of the transformation, but it also made for a pretty cool weapon. Since then, Springer has been linked to that sword. The triple changer generations update of Springer kept that very same motif and the propeller sword looked even better than ever. It's a little engineering marvel on that toy. The Springer release that really seals the deal in terms of his association with his sword is the GDO retool of Hunt For The Decepticons Tomahawk. That's because unlike a standard retool of changing the colour and the head, but they also added a sword to the package, made just for him.
2. Rhinox's chainguns of Doom!
I don't know if anyone predicted this would be first but when this topic was brought up by fellow board member Rodimus Prime, my first thought was this entry, the number one spot: The Chainguns of Doom. The Beast Wars toys were made before the show and thus the character model was based off the toy with some changes, and his personality was totally different than the brutish beast depicted in the toy's bio and tech specs. Instead, Beast Wars Rhinox was a calm and gentle giant, as well as the backbone of the team. However, the toy did come with a pretty cool weapon that was assembled using four components hidden all throughout the beast mode such as chains, a saw blade and a motor. While this badass weapon may have conflicted with the kind of character he was initially portrayed to be, it made for a greater impact when the showrunners had Rhinox use not one but two of these weapons on the show as part of his main artillery. He may be calm and strategic but he would not stand for tyranny and understood that you needed to cover your friends sometimes, by using giant machine guns with chains and spiked balls attached to them. Not only did he have a big brain but he had the firepower to go with it, helping him protect his friends and all he held dear. The Generations figure updated him to finally be the right size, as well as making him more accurate to how he looked like on the show including, you guessed it, giving him TWO chainguns of doom!
1. Megatron's Fusion Cannon
You know, I didn't think of this at first. All these other weapons could be wielded by others and usually have 5 mm pegs. But with Megatron, that fusion cannon is just fused to the guy. It's an extension of his body and what he unleashes his immense firepower from. It is probably the most powerful weapon (bar the Matrix) and definitely the most personal one. Also far more iconic than Optimus' black rifle, personal opinion of course. And now, here is a showcase of the many interpretations, enjoy!
Transformers War For Cybertron Cybertronian Megatron Gallery
Transformers G1 1984 Megatron (Reissue) Gallery
Transformers Generations Combiner Wars Megatron Gallery
Transformers Masterpiece Megatron (MP-05) Gallery
Transformers Animated Megatron Gallery
Transformers Prime: First Edition Megatron Gallery
Transformers Generations Megatron Gallery
Transformers Henkei Megatron Gallery
Honourable mentions: Dark of the Moon Megatron's Shotgun
If anyone cares, I was going to put Optimus' Ion Blaster here but I changed my mind. Even though I have my fair share of Optimus toys, which include his blaster, I never really liked it with Optimus. It feels so impersonal and partly uncharacteristic, and it was never a great looking or distinctive gun. It's just a big black gun that this wise and honourable emissary of peace (which is what he's been portrayed as in recent attempts to carry on G1 fiction) carries around with him. Would he really use a big gun to just blast someone's head off?
Well, the third Bay movie answered that quite well. BUT though his actions are hard to debate (there isn't much subtlety to Optimus murdering a defeated Sentinel Prime), I found it really interesting how he did it using Megatron's gun. You see, that giant impersonal gun is something Megatron would have lieing around and suits him far more than Optimus. My favourite part of all this is how this whole scenario played out in the toyline. This big shotgun in the pictures below did not come with the Megatron toy in the Dark of the Moon toyline (for the film this scene comes from). It didn't come with Optimus either. It actually came from the next movie's toyline (Age of Extinction), three years later, even though it was never featured in that film. And it came as Optimus' gun without any mention of Megatron, even though it is compatible with the old Megatron toy (see the pictures). So not only was that murder scene fans were up in arms about reinforced by cementing Optimus' connection with this giant shotgun, but it could also now be reenacted three years later with official Hasbro merchansidise. This gets the number 5 spot because it's just such an odd choice to go the extra mile in adding to Optimus' connection with this weapon and this attitude of his, even though it's uncharacteristic of the character to begin with. In the end, it's pretty awesome how this all played out.
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Re: Top 5 Best Personal Weapons Amongst Transformers Toys (1833753)
Posted by fenrir72 on October 15th, 2016 @ 9:15am CDT
Posted by fenrir72 on October 15th, 2016 @ 9:15am CDT
G1 1984 Optimus' weapon in box is called a laser blaster but in his Marvel Universe bio it's a laser rifle which he uses with fine precision as a sharp shooter/sniper. Those skills were displayed in the 4th episode Transport to Oblivion where he freed Spike from his harness/bonds. So technically, Prime doesn't go shooting from the hip. His updated version Galaxybomber gun as Star Convoy is an even more kick ass.
That being said, Megatron is his own personal Weapon and that holdover from his Microchange days UNCLE gun set up is also the BOSS! I used to make believe that was that weapon he used in "Masquerade"
We can also consider the latest Shockwave Legends/CW version that goes hand in hand with his MP version.
and Bruticus 
Landcross' uni weapon is also a kick ass weapon for his time.
That being said, Megatron is his own personal Weapon and that holdover from his Microchange days UNCLE gun set up is also the BOSS! I used to make believe that was that weapon he used in "Masquerade"
We can also consider the latest Shockwave Legends/CW version that goes hand in hand with his MP version.
and Bruticus Landcross' uni weapon is also a kick ass weapon for his time.
Re: Top 5 Best Personal Weapons Amongst Transformers Toys (1833756)
Posted by Sharkticon Soup on October 15th, 2016 @ 9:33am CDT
Posted by Sharkticon Soup on October 15th, 2016 @ 9:33am CDT
I would've put G1 Megatron's fusion cannon in there somewhere, probably number one for me. When I hear, "Transformers weapon" I immediately think of two things: Megatron's fusion cannon and Megatron himself. Just my two cents.
Re: Top 5 Best Personal Weapons Amongst Transformers Toys (1833757)
Posted by william-james88 on October 15th, 2016 @ 9:41am CDT
WOW! Since its so fused with him, I never thought of it as a personal weapon instead of simply an extension of his being. But yeah, that totally works, big edit coming through!
Posted by william-james88 on October 15th, 2016 @ 9:41am CDT
Sharkticon Soup wrote:I would've put G1 Megatron's fusion cannon in there somewhere, probably number one for me. When I hear, "Transformers weapon" I immediately think of two things: Megatron's fusion cannon and Megatron himself. Just my two cents.
WOW! Since its so fused with him, I never thought of it as a personal weapon instead of simply an extension of his being. But yeah, that totally works, big edit coming through!
Re: Top 5 Best Personal Weapons Amongst Transformers Toys (1833761)
Posted by RacerCheetor on October 15th, 2016 @ 10:25am CDT
Posted by RacerCheetor on October 15th, 2016 @ 10:25am CDT
Yeah!!
Beast Wars RLZ!!!
Beast Wars RLZ!!!
Re: Top 5 Best Personal Weapons Amongst Transformers Toys (1833762)
Posted by Kurona on October 15th, 2016 @ 10:37am CDT
Posted by Kurona on October 15th, 2016 @ 10:37am CDT
Agree with most of the list - even if I don't like the movies - but ugh, absolute no on 5. While it was a good concept and idea that was much better integrated into the show and Generations toy, on the original toy it's absolutely atrocious. It makes the wing look terrible, the sword itself is really blunt and segmented, and when he's using it it gives this really bad asymmetry that just looks like his wing is broken. I'd argue for it being one of the worst personal weapons.
Re: Top 5 Best Personal Weapons Amongst Transformers Toys (1833763)
Posted by TCWJoe on October 15th, 2016 @ 10:55am CDT
Posted by TCWJoe on October 15th, 2016 @ 10:55am CDT
Speaking of Chainguns of Doom... the ones I ordeted off of Shapeways https://www.shapeways.com/product/3GGTCDWY4/rnx-01-chaingun-of-doom-for-your-transformers-figu?optionId=41010280 are expected to arrive today (yes I designed them but that doesnt make me any less excited.
Here's pics from a customer that bought them before me.... when they arrive Ill post with Generations Rhinox
Unpainted (held by Jazz)
Painted held by the original Rhinox
Here's pics from a customer that bought them before me.... when they arrive Ill post with Generations Rhinox
Unpainted (held by Jazz)
Painted held by the original Rhinox
Re: Top 5 Best Personal Weapons Amongst Transformers Toys (1833765)
Posted by SureShot18 on October 15th, 2016 @ 11:00am CDT
Posted by SureShot18 on October 15th, 2016 @ 11:00am CDT
My list would probably go like this-
5. Movie Megatron's shotgun
4. Prime Dreadwing's cannon, sword, and bombs
3. Springer's sword
2. Rhinox's chain guns
1. Megatron's arm mounted fusion cannon
5. Movie Megatron's shotgun
4. Prime Dreadwing's cannon, sword, and bombs
3. Springer's sword
2. Rhinox's chain guns
1. Megatron's arm mounted fusion cannon
Re: Top 5 Best Personal Weapons Amongst Transformers Toys (1833776)
Posted by frogbat on October 15th, 2016 @ 12:01pm CDT
Posted by frogbat on October 15th, 2016 @ 12:01pm CDT
Think weapons are a great part of transformer toy... I agree re megatron' fusion canon. It is so intrinsic to who megatron is that you can't have a version of megatron without... its part of his persona, and his silhouette. Also the very fact he transforms into a weapon and his fusion canon is integrated into him and isn't a gun or sword that can be interchanged... same applies to galvatron,
Of recent releases i rally like highbrow's guns, they plug in via the post and the rectangular peg and serve as undercarriage. I'm not a fan of weapons that have multiple round pegs protruding which goes back to my dislike of g1 ultra magnus' white gun.
As a kid, metroplex's guns in general were awesome and the fact they united to form six shot,,,
Also love hidden weapons that pop out like metroplex's and weird wolf's. Though I think my fave weapon design has to be g1 soundwave' that stored in his Walkman mode as batteries
Of recent releases i rally like highbrow's guns, they plug in via the post and the rectangular peg and serve as undercarriage. I'm not a fan of weapons that have multiple round pegs protruding which goes back to my dislike of g1 ultra magnus' white gun.
As a kid, metroplex's guns in general were awesome and the fact they united to form six shot,,,
Also love hidden weapons that pop out like metroplex's and weird wolf's. Though I think my fave weapon design has to be g1 soundwave' that stored in his Walkman mode as batteries
Re: Top 5 Best Personal Weapons Amongst Transformers Toys (1833791)
Posted by Noideaforaname on October 15th, 2016 @ 12:24pm CDT
Posted by Noideaforaname on October 15th, 2016 @ 12:24pm CDT
This is one of those things you always notice but don't really think too much about.
I think maybe my favorite is Skystalker's:
Seamlessly part of his wings, leave a cool 'rotten' look when taken out, multiple ways of being wielded, are hooks instead of something more commonplace like swords
Followed by Wreckage's swords:
SPINNING LIGHTSABER BLADES! Which are actually a pair of switchblade guns, because obviously the chest cannon wasn't enough gun.
Shoot, maybe this is number one.
I'm not sure what the rest of the list would look like... Maybe HA Whirl's rotor railgun, Cyberverse Scorponok, Hailstorm's rockets, Rampage's tread-whips (though that may be more a case of real clever kibble than awesome weaponry)?
Fun honorable mention: PCC drones
They got 5mm pegs, they count.
I think maybe my favorite is Skystalker's:
Seamlessly part of his wings, leave a cool 'rotten' look when taken out, multiple ways of being wielded, are hooks instead of something more commonplace like swords
Followed by Wreckage's swords:
SPINNING LIGHTSABER BLADES! Which are actually a pair of switchblade guns, because obviously the chest cannon wasn't enough gun.
Shoot, maybe this is number one.
I'm not sure what the rest of the list would look like... Maybe HA Whirl's rotor railgun, Cyberverse Scorponok, Hailstorm's rockets, Rampage's tread-whips (though that may be more a case of real clever kibble than awesome weaponry)?
Fun honorable mention: PCC drones
They got 5mm pegs, they count.
Re: Top 5 Best Personal Weapons Amongst Transformers Toys (1833793)
Posted by SG Roadbuster on October 15th, 2016 @ 12:25pm CDT
Posted by SG Roadbuster on October 15th, 2016 @ 12:25pm CDT
no mention of bw Dinobot's sword and rotate Blade?
or bw Rampage's Triple barreled gatling rocket launcer?
or the Star Saber/Dark Star Saber?
or Optimus'/Megatron's Energy axe/energy mace?
rid 01 Scourge's Sword of Fury?
you may have materiel for 2 lists here bud, one for iconic guns, one for iconic melee weaponry
or bw Rampage's Triple barreled gatling rocket launcer?
or the Star Saber/Dark Star Saber?
or Optimus'/Megatron's Energy axe/energy mace?
rid 01 Scourge's Sword of Fury?
you may have materiel for 2 lists here bud, one for iconic guns, one for iconic melee weaponry
Re: Top 5 Best Personal Weapons Amongst Transformers Toys (1833801)
Posted by Kurona on October 15th, 2016 @ 12:33pm CDT
This is also for toys.
So while Dinobot's personal weapon is incredible in the show... to date, every attempt to replicate it in toy form has been a bit pathetic.
Posted by Kurona on October 15th, 2016 @ 12:33pm CDT
SG Roadbuster wrote:no mention of bw Dinobot's sword and rotate Blade?
or bw Rampage's Triple barreled gatling rocket launcer?
or the Star Saber/Dark Star Saber?
or Optimus'/Megatron's Energy axe/energy mace?
rid 01 Scourge's Sword of Fury?
you may have materiel for 2 lists here bud, one for iconic guns, one for iconic melee weaponry
This is also for toys.
So while Dinobot's personal weapon is incredible in the show... to date, every attempt to replicate it in toy form has been a bit pathetic.
Re: Top 5 Best Personal Weapons Amongst Transformers Toys (1833802)
Posted by Rodimus Prime on October 15th, 2016 @ 12:35pm CDT
Posted by Rodimus Prime on October 15th, 2016 @ 12:35pm CDT
Wow, Willy J. I usually agree with about half your list, but not this one. Then again, it's all a matter of opinion.
Here's my top 5:
5. DoTM Megatron's shotgun
4. Rhinox's Gatling guns
3. Frenzy/Rumble's piledrivers
2. Grimlock's energo sword
1. Megatron's fusion cannon
There are more, but those are the ones that I recall the most. Doesn't necessarily make them the "best."
Also, I agree that the list should be split up into firing weapons, sword/other edge weapons and blunt force weapons.
Here's my top 5:
5. DoTM Megatron's shotgun
4. Rhinox's Gatling guns
3. Frenzy/Rumble's piledrivers
2. Grimlock's energo sword
1. Megatron's fusion cannon
There are more, but those are the ones that I recall the most. Doesn't necessarily make them the "best."
Also, I agree that the list should be split up into firing weapons, sword/other edge weapons and blunt force weapons.
Re: Top 5 Best Personal Weapons Amongst Transformers Toys (1833804)
Posted by william-james88 on October 15th, 2016 @ 12:36pm CDT
Well, they are mantioned now
And seriously, it was hard not to make this entirely Beast Wars, and your right it could have been two lists (Beast Wars and not Beast Wars ) but I guess I blew it all in one shot. But the idea was about how intrinsic and fun the weapon was for the character and its translation to toy form so looking at all those factors, it really made for 1 list.
The Star Sabre or Sark Star Sabre is not really a personal weapon in the sense that it is attributed to one person. I mean of course, its wielded by someone, but its more like Excalibur or even the matrix, and something that is legendary before the one who used it made it so (does that make sense?). Like the weapon is legendary iconic, not the fact that its wielded by a specific person.
The Energon weapons for Prime and megatron are fun, but they were only ever used once in the original cartoon (right?). So its more the repeasted imagery that made it iconic rather than the actual functionality. Just like how they keep making coronation Starscream homges when he only wore the crown for a minute.
And you will correct me if I am wrong, but isnt Scourge's sword just a repaint of the one that came with Laser Prime?
Posted by william-james88 on October 15th, 2016 @ 12:36pm CDT
SG Roadbuster wrote:no mention of bw Dinobot's sword and rotate Blade?
or bw Rampage's Triple barreled gatling rocket launcer?
or the Star Saber/Dark Star Saber?
or Optimus'/Megatron's Energy axe/energy mace?
rid 01 Scourge's Sword of Fury?
you may have materiel for 2 lists here bud, one for iconic guns, one for iconic melee weaponry
Well, they are mantioned now
And seriously, it was hard not to make this entirely Beast Wars, and your right it could have been two lists (Beast Wars and not Beast Wars
) but I guess I blew it all in one shot. But the idea was about how intrinsic and fun the weapon was for the character and its translation to toy form so looking at all those factors, it really made for 1 list.The Star Sabre or Sark Star Sabre is not really a personal weapon in the sense that it is attributed to one person. I mean of course, its wielded by someone, but its more like Excalibur or even the matrix, and something that is legendary before the one who used it made it so (does that make sense?). Like the weapon is legendary iconic, not the fact that its wielded by a specific person.
The Energon weapons for Prime and megatron are fun, but they were only ever used once in the original cartoon (right?). So its more the repeasted imagery that made it iconic rather than the actual functionality. Just like how they keep making coronation Starscream homges when he only wore the crown for a minute.
And you will correct me if I am wrong, but isnt Scourge's sword just a repaint of the one that came with Laser Prime?
Re: Top 5 Best Personal Weapons Amongst Transformers Toys (1833805)
Posted by Kurona on October 15th, 2016 @ 12:37pm CDT
They eventually put the Energon Axe and Mace into their respective G1 re-releases and Masterpieces.
Posted by Kurona on October 15th, 2016 @ 12:37pm CDT
william-james88 wrote:SG Roadbuster wrote:no mention of bw Dinobot's sword and rotate Blade?
or bw Rampage's Triple barreled gatling rocket launcer?
or the Star Saber/Dark Star Saber?
or Optimus'/Megatron's Energy axe/energy mace?
rid 01 Scourge's Sword of Fury?
you may have materiel for 2 lists here bud, one for iconic guns, one for iconic melee weaponry
Well, they are mantioned now
And seriously, it was hard not to make this entirely Beast Wars, and your right it could have been two lists (Beast Wars and not Beast Wars
The Star Sabre or Sark Star Sabre is not really a personal weapon in the sense that it is attributed to one person. I mean of course, its wielded by someone, but its more like Excalibur or even the matrix, and something that is legendary before the one who used it made it so (does that make sense?). Like the weapon is legendary iconic, not the fact that its wielded by a specific person.
The Energon weapons for Prime and megatron are fun, but they were only ever used once in the original cartoon (right?). So its more the repeasted imagery that made it iconic rather than the actual functionality. Just like how they keep making coronation Starscream homges when he only wore the crown for a minute.
And you will correct me if I am wrong, but isnt Scourge's sword just a repaint of the one that came with Laser Prime?
They eventually put the Energon Axe and Mace into their respective G1 re-releases and Masterpieces.
Re: Top 5 Best Personal Weapons Amongst Transformers Toys (1833806)
Posted by william-james88 on October 15th, 2016 @ 12:40pm CDT
Well you do mention 3 out of the 6 I mention so you do seem to agree with half my list exactly, and we even have the same number 1
Oh man Kurona, you dont miss a beat.
Yes I know, and they can be seen in the links found throughout the Megatron entry. But this is both about the fiction and toys working together to bring about that bond between the weapon and the character. And when it comes to the Energon Weapons, they dont have the fiction backing it up. It becomes more tongue in cheek to include them in their toys now rather than a necessity. Like a crown with Starscream or a tux bib with Grimlock. My opinion of course.
Posted by william-james88 on October 15th, 2016 @ 12:40pm CDT
Rodimus Prime wrote:Wow, Willy J. I usually agree with about half your list, but not this one. Then again, it's all a matter of opinion.
Here's my top 5:
5. DoTM Megatron's shotgun
4. Rhinox's Gatling guns
3. Frenzy/Rumble's piledrivers
2. Grimlock's energo sword
1. Megatron's fusion cannon
Well you do mention 3 out of the 6 I mention so you do seem to agree with half my list exactly, and we even have the same number 1
Kurona wrote:They eventually put the Energon Axe and Mace into their respective G1 re-releases and Masterpieces.
Oh man Kurona, you dont miss a beat.Yes I know, and they can be seen in the links found throughout the Megatron entry. But this is both about the fiction and toys working together to bring about that bond between the weapon and the character. And when it comes to the Energon Weapons, they dont have the fiction backing it up. It becomes more tongue in cheek to include them in their toys now rather than a necessity. Like a crown with Starscream or a tux bib with Grimlock. My opinion of course.
Re: Top 5 Best Personal Weapons Amongst Transformers Toys (1833818)
Posted by Galactic Prime on October 15th, 2016 @ 1:02pm CDT
Posted by Galactic Prime on October 15th, 2016 @ 1:02pm CDT
Great stuff but if I had to pick the top 5 personal weapons it would be:
5. Megatron's Fusion Cannon
4. Starscream's Nullray
3. Hound's Hologram gun
2. Jazz'sSteroe Speaker's and light show
1. TF Prime Beast Hunters Optimus Prime's Gattling gun
5. Megatron's Fusion Cannon
4. Starscream's Nullray
3. Hound's Hologram gun
2. Jazz'sSteroe Speaker's and light show
1. TF Prime Beast Hunters Optimus Prime's Gattling gun
Re: Top 5 Best Personal Weapons Amongst Transformers Toys (1833824)
Posted by Evil Eye on October 15th, 2016 @ 1:43pm CDT
Posted by Evil Eye on October 15th, 2016 @ 1:43pm CDT
Nice list! Weapons are always fun.
Some I think would be good contenders would be:
Most Energon weapons, but particularly Divebomb's giant shuriken/boomerang and Cruellock's colossal sword.
DotM Prime's massive MechTech battle cannon. Shockwave's particle cannon is cool too but it's practically a part of him so I'm not sure if it counts.
Targetmasters and robots that turn into weapons in general, but particularly Throttler the little drill Minicon. He's just awesome.
Rook's HFG, which not only stores really well in vehicle mode as a turret, but becomes a sod-off huge power fist in robot mode.
RID Megatron/Gigatron's missile launchers/double bladed sword/staff thing, specifically the extra-magnificent Takara version, which is wonderfully pointy.
And finally, of course, literally everything MP G2 Sideswipe comes with.
Some I think would be good contenders would be:
Most Energon weapons, but particularly Divebomb's giant shuriken/boomerang and Cruellock's colossal sword.
DotM Prime's massive MechTech battle cannon. Shockwave's particle cannon is cool too but it's practically a part of him so I'm not sure if it counts.
Targetmasters and robots that turn into weapons in general, but particularly Throttler the little drill Minicon. He's just awesome.
Rook's HFG, which not only stores really well in vehicle mode as a turret, but becomes a sod-off huge power fist in robot mode.
RID Megatron/Gigatron's missile launchers/double bladed sword/staff thing, specifically the extra-magnificent Takara version, which is wonderfully pointy.
And finally, of course, literally everything MP G2 Sideswipe comes with.
Re: Top 5 Best Personal Weapons Amongst Transformers Toys (1833826)
Posted by Rodimus Prime on October 15th, 2016 @ 1:49pm CDT
Also, I do believe Optimus in AoE had Megatron's shotgun (it's what he had when he blasted out of the barn), up until he received his upgrade. That's why it was included with the Evasion Mode figure in that line.
Posted by Rodimus Prime on October 15th, 2016 @ 1:49pm CDT
william-james88 wrote:Rodimus Prime wrote:Wow, Willy J. I usually agree with about half your list, but not this one. Then again, it's all a matter of opinion.
Here's my top 5:
5. DoTM Megatron's shotgun
4. Rhinox's Gatling guns
3. Frenzy/Rumble's piledrivers
2. Grimlock's energo sword
1. Megatron's fusion cannon
Well you do mention 3 out of the 6 I mention so you do seem to agree with half my list exactly, and we even have the same number 1
Also, I do believe Optimus in AoE had Megatron's shotgun (it's what he had when he blasted out of the barn), up until he received his upgrade. That's why it was included with the Evasion Mode figure in that line.
Re: Top 5 Best Personal Weapons Amongst Transformers Toys (1833832)
Posted by Ultra Markus on October 15th, 2016 @ 1:59pm CDT
Posted by Ultra Markus on October 15th, 2016 @ 1:59pm CDT
speaking of armada, what about jetfires rocket booster gun?
Re: Top 5 Best Personal Weapons Amongst Transformers Toys (1833847)
Posted by Megatron Wolf on October 15th, 2016 @ 2:32pm CDT
Posted by Megatron Wolf on October 15th, 2016 @ 2:32pm CDT
seekers arm lasers, optimus primals entire arsenal, rhinoxs chain guns,dinobots sword & shield, megatrons arm cannon
Re: Top 5 Best Personal Weapons Amongst Transformers Toys (1833876)
Posted by Burn on October 15th, 2016 @ 4:20pm CDT
Posted by Burn on October 15th, 2016 @ 4:20pm CDT
First and foremost, I think this is a brilliant idea for a list, amazing that RP was able to come up with something like that. 
Onto the obligatory rant ... throwing in the fiction criteria was just a blatant reason to disregard Stalker. Come on ... when people think Stalker they think of his big rocket!
That being said ... the only ones I can really agree with are Rhinox and Megatron.
I was late to the party when it came to Beast Wars (was just getting back into TF's) so I saw the cartoon first and thought how awesome his chain guns were. Then I got the toy and discovered how they integrated them!
And as far as Megatron ... well ... his canon, you think Megatron, you think of the big honking canon strapped to his arm. Even though there's been a number of Megatrons WITHOUT an arm canon, to the point they probably out number those that do, most people know him with the canon.
I can agree with the reasoning for Silverbolt, I just don't think they're some of the best.
I liked Armada Starscreams wing sword, I wished at the time they'd made both wings like that. Come his Generations release, they did that ... but only as tiny swords. Good attempt, but to me, a fail.
As for Springer ... meh. I think making a sword out of the propeller is a no-brainer.
One weapon for me that stands out is Soundwaves rocket launcher. Having that mounted on his shoulder gave him a look.
Onto the obligatory rant ... throwing in the fiction criteria was just a blatant reason to disregard Stalker. Come on ... when people think Stalker they think of his big rocket!
That being said ... the only ones I can really agree with are Rhinox and Megatron.
I was late to the party when it came to Beast Wars (was just getting back into TF's) so I saw the cartoon first and thought how awesome his chain guns were. Then I got the toy and discovered how they integrated them!
And as far as Megatron ... well ... his canon, you think Megatron, you think of the big honking canon strapped to his arm. Even though there's been a number of Megatrons WITHOUT an arm canon, to the point they probably out number those that do, most people know him with the canon.
I can agree with the reasoning for Silverbolt, I just don't think they're some of the best.
I liked Armada Starscreams wing sword, I wished at the time they'd made both wings like that. Come his Generations release, they did that ... but only as tiny swords. Good attempt, but to me, a fail.
As for Springer ... meh. I think making a sword out of the propeller is a no-brainer.
One weapon for me that stands out is Soundwaves rocket launcher. Having that mounted on his shoulder gave him a look.
Re: Top 5 Best Personal Weapons Amongst Transformers Toys (1833892)
Posted by ausbot on October 15th, 2016 @ 6:10pm CDT
Posted by ausbot on October 15th, 2016 @ 6:10pm CDT
i would have put
1. Straxus's axe
2. grimlocks sword
3. soundwaves battery gun
4. blasters massive g1 gun
5. Kickbacks tommy gun
1. Straxus's axe
2. grimlocks sword
3. soundwaves battery gun
4. blasters massive g1 gun
5. Kickbacks tommy gun
Re: Top 5 Best Personal Weapons Amongst Transformers Toys (1833893)
Posted by Kurona on October 15th, 2016 @ 6:14pm CDT
Posted by Kurona on October 15th, 2016 @ 6:14pm CDT
Curious; what does everyone love about Grimlock's sword?
Because... it's just a sword. Nothing special about it. Doesn't even integrate into his alt-mode into a clever way of anything, it's just a red piece of plastic.
Because... it's just a sword. Nothing special about it. Doesn't even integrate into his alt-mode into a clever way of anything, it's just a red piece of plastic.
Re: Top 5 Best Personal Weapons Amongst Transformers Toys (1833908)
Posted by Tyrannacon on October 15th, 2016 @ 7:12pm CDT
Posted by Tyrannacon on October 15th, 2016 @ 7:12pm CDT
Yes, yes. The Fusion Cannon's position is ultimately pleasing. Life is better with a fusion cannon. I also am partial to this...
Dark Star Saber gives me a happily tingly feeling too.
Dark Star Saber gives me a happily tingly feeling too.
Re: Top 5 Best Personal Weapons Amongst Transformers Toys (1833915)
Posted by ausbot on October 15th, 2016 @ 7:56pm CDT
Posted by ausbot on October 15th, 2016 @ 7:56pm CDT
who cares about intergration, Grimlocks sword is a classic weapon that sums up grimlock, brute force.
Re: Top 5 Best Personal Weapons Amongst Transformers Toys (1833917)
Posted by Kurona on October 15th, 2016 @ 8:01pm CDT
Posted by Kurona on October 15th, 2016 @ 8:01pm CDT
I dunno. Often when I think of Grimlock I never think of the weapon. I think of his main forces of offence being his fists and his alt-mode - that's what sums up Grimlock. Sure, sometimes he might grab a sword or a gun if it works then and there; but he seems the type of guy who'd rather be right in there breathing fire or ripping apart 'cons with his teeth.
If anything I feel the sword almost demeans him. Oh yeah, he can turn into mecha godzilla, breathe fire and is pretty much one of the most powerful Transformers alive? But he apparently needs a sword to deal physical damage? Pffft. Gimme a break.
Grimlock don't need no weapon. He IS the weapon.
If anything I feel the sword almost demeans him. Oh yeah, he can turn into mecha godzilla, breathe fire and is pretty much one of the most powerful Transformers alive? But he apparently needs a sword to deal physical damage? Pffft. Gimme a break.
Grimlock don't need no weapon. He IS the weapon.
Re: Top 5 Best Personal Weapons Amongst Transformers Toys (1833925)
Posted by Big Grim on October 15th, 2016 @ 9:20pm CDT
Posted by Big Grim on October 15th, 2016 @ 9:20pm CDT
Megatron's Fusioun cannon
Primes's Blaster.
Galvatron's Particle Cannon.
Two very specific sounds!
Primes's Blaster.
Galvatron's Particle Cannon.
Two very specific sounds!
Re: Top 5 Best Personal Weapons Amongst Transformers Toys (1833952)
Posted by kurthy on October 16th, 2016 @ 12:06am CDT
Posted by kurthy on October 16th, 2016 @ 12:06am CDT
So many interesting choices:
I can't touch 1 and 2. But the next 3:
3. Animated Ultra Magnus' hammer, it's now required in every UM toy.
4. G1 Shockwave's missing hand
5. I guess movie OP's swords
Honorable mentions: Can't really call the seeker weapons personalized since they all have them. Blaster's blaster. Soundwave's cannon
I can't touch 1 and 2. But the next 3:
3. Animated Ultra Magnus' hammer, it's now required in every UM toy.
4. G1 Shockwave's missing hand
5. I guess movie OP's swords
Honorable mentions: Can't really call the seeker weapons personalized since they all have them. Blaster's blaster. Soundwave's cannon
Re: Top 5 Best Personal Weapons Amongst Transformers Toys (1833966)
Posted by Rainmaker on October 16th, 2016 @ 2:21am CDT
Posted by Rainmaker on October 16th, 2016 @ 2:21am CDT
Still waiting for Top 5/10 best Transformers comic covers ;-;
Good list though, too bad Soundwave's weapon didn't get a spot at all (even in HM)
Good list though, too bad Soundwave's weapon didn't get a spot at all (even in HM)
Re: Top 5 Best Personal Weapons Amongst Transformers Toys (1834010)
Posted by Optimutt on October 16th, 2016 @ 11:01am CDT
The only problem with this one is that we all know that Marvel's Transformers #5 will rock the #1 spot.
Of course, I'm with you. I would be curious to see what will be #3-5. (#2 will be Casey Coller's The Killing Joke with Megatron and Reflector.).
Nice list, btw!
I think Scorponok's shield should be in the top 10, along with Mort Max's Master Sword.
And I just came up with another idea for a Top 5: Best Powers. Elita-1, Mirage, Hound, Whirl (madness), Minimus Ambus, Thundercracker, Mindwipe... there are a whole lot of cool individual powers to choose from.
Posted by Optimutt on October 16th, 2016 @ 11:01am CDT
Maximal Rainmaker wrote:Still waiting for Top 5/10 best Transformers comic covers ;-;
The only problem with this one is that we all know that Marvel's Transformers #5 will rock the #1 spot.
Of course, I'm with you. I would be curious to see what will be #3-5. (#2 will be Casey Coller's The Killing Joke with Megatron and Reflector.).
Nice list, btw!
I think Scorponok's shield should be in the top 10, along with Mort Max's Master Sword.
And I just came up with another idea for a Top 5: Best Powers. Elita-1, Mirage, Hound, Whirl (madness), Minimus Ambus, Thundercracker, Mindwipe... there are a whole lot of cool individual powers to choose from.
Re: Top 5 Best Personal Weapons Amongst Transformers Toys (1834019)
Posted by william-james88 on October 16th, 2016 @ 1:13pm CDT
How about a top 5 for different eras then? Top 5 Covers from the Marvel Era and Top 5 Covers from the IDW era.
Thanks!
Sure, it's yours if you want it. What would be a good title? What about "Top 5 Superpowers in Transformers Fiction"?
Posted by william-james88 on October 16th, 2016 @ 1:13pm CDT
Optimutt wrote:The only problem with this one is that we all know that Marvel's Transformers #5 will rock the #1 spot.
Of course, I'm with you. I would be curious to see what will be #3-5. (#2 will be Casey Coller's The Killing Joke with Megatron and Reflector.)
How about a top 5 for different eras then? Top 5 Covers from the Marvel Era and Top 5 Covers from the IDW era.
Nice list, btw!
Thanks!
And I just came up with another idea for a Top 5: Best Powers. Elita-1, Mirage, Hound, Whirl (madness), Minimus Ambus, Thundercracker, Mindwipe... there are a whole lot of cool individual powers to choose from.
Sure, it's yours if you want it. What would be a good title? What about "Top 5 Superpowers in Transformers Fiction"?
Re: Top 5 Best Personal Weapons Amongst Transformers Toys (1834023)
Posted by Microraptor on October 16th, 2016 @ 1:35pm CDT
Posted by Microraptor on October 16th, 2016 @ 1:35pm CDT
My favorites would have to be Movie Grimlock's dino-mace, Prime Bumblebee's arm cannons, and Movie Snarl's axe. They just capture the characters so well.
Re: Top 5 Best Personal Weapons Amongst Transformers Toys (1834102)
Posted by hurricane567 on October 16th, 2016 @ 9:37pm CDT
Posted by hurricane567 on October 16th, 2016 @ 9:37pm CDT
Springer's sword is such a good idea, i think all helicopter transformers should use it. Unless you are Movie Drift or Movie Skyhammer, then you can slide. Speaking of Drift, where's comic book Drift and his sword? I wonder if he got it from either Bud K or Home Shopping Channel lol
Re: Top 5 Best Personal Weapons Amongst Transformers Toys (1834119)
Posted by Silverwing on October 17th, 2016 @ 12:14am CDT
Posted by Silverwing on October 17th, 2016 @ 12:14am CDT
I'm surprised STarscream's null rays aren't on the list!
Re: Top 5 Best Personal Weapons Amongst Transformers Toys (1834124)
Posted by Beyonder on October 17th, 2016 @ 1:03am CDT
Posted by Beyonder on October 17th, 2016 @ 1:03am CDT
I think all the weapons mentioned here (comment section included!)are awesome. But for me, G1 Galvatron's orange protrusion of DEATH takes the pie. C'MON! Any weapon that can disintegrate Starscream entirely with a single blast 
on his coronation day has to mean something!
True, this awesomeness was almost never repeated, but we all know Galvatron is nigh invincible...
on his coronation day has to mean something!True, this awesomeness was almost never repeated, but we all know Galvatron is nigh invincible...
Re: Top 5 Best Personal Weapons Amongst Transformers Toys (1834131)
Posted by Cyberpath on October 17th, 2016 @ 3:22am CDT
I don't know about those "Post-G1" continuities, but Optimus Prime was never a pacifist.
Would he like peace? Sure. But sometimes your enemies don't leave you a choice.
Remember the events that lead to his creation, Megatron and the Decepticons slaughtered the Autobots like lambs. Alpha Trion created Prime to be the ultimate warrior/leader.
If you're going up against the likes of Megatron and Devastator you're gonna need a powerful gun.
Optimus Prime rules and the ion blaster is definitely memorable, it's on my top five for sure.
Posted by Cyberpath on October 17th, 2016 @ 3:22am CDT
william-james88 wrote:If anyone cares, I was going to put Optimus' Ion Blaster here but I changed my mind. Even though I have my fair share of Optimus toys, which include his blaster, I never really liked it with Optimus. It feels so impersonal and partly uncharacteristic, and it was never a great looking or distinctive gun. It's just a big black gun that this wise and honourable emissary of peace (which is what he's been portrayed as in recent attempts to carry on G1 fiction) carries around with him. Would he really use a big gun to just blast someone's head off?
I don't know about those "Post-G1" continuities, but Optimus Prime was never a pacifist.
Would he like peace? Sure. But sometimes your enemies don't leave you a choice.
Remember the events that lead to his creation, Megatron and the Decepticons slaughtered the Autobots like lambs. Alpha Trion created Prime to be the ultimate warrior/leader.
If you're going up against the likes of Megatron and Devastator you're gonna need a powerful gun.
Optimus Prime rules and the ion blaster is definitely memorable, it's on my top five for sure.
Re: Top 5 Best Personal Weapons Amongst Transformers Toys (1834165)
Posted by Kyleor on October 17th, 2016 @ 9:42am CDT
Posted by Kyleor on October 17th, 2016 @ 9:42am CDT
How about a somewhat related list, Top 5 Minicon weapons/with weapon modes, from Armada, Prime/Arms Micron, RiD 2015, etc.
Re: Top 5 Best Personal Weapons Amongst Transformers Toys (1834166)
Posted by william-james88 on October 17th, 2016 @ 9:47am CDT
I have a top 5 post G1 targetmasters list coming which includes all of those. I wont be using the word minicon as the description since from experience with these lists, people can get quite confused. There will be lists for best Unicron trilogy Minicon molds, best RID Minicons (maybe) and best Post G1 targetmasters (where the criteria is that its a robot that turns into a gun for a bot to use).
Posted by william-james88 on October 17th, 2016 @ 9:47am CDT
Kyleor wrote:How about a somewhat related list, Top 5 Minicon weapons/with weapon modes, from Armada, Prime/Arms Micron, RiD 2015, etc.
I have a top 5 post G1 targetmasters list coming which includes all of those. I wont be using the word minicon as the description since from experience with these lists, people can get quite confused. There will be lists for best Unicron trilogy Minicon molds, best RID Minicons (maybe) and best Post G1 targetmasters (where the criteria is that its a robot that turns into a gun for a bot to use).
Re: Top 5 Best Personal Weapons Amongst Transformers Toys (1834167)
Posted by Kurona on October 17th, 2016 @ 9:48am CDT
What about the mini-cons with Melee weapon modes? Or do you consider all of those so bad they can't make the list?
Posted by Kurona on October 17th, 2016 @ 9:48am CDT
william-james88 wrote:Kyleor wrote:How about a somewhat related list, Top 5 Minicon weapons/with weapon modes, from Armada, Prime/Arms Micron, RiD 2015, etc.
I have a top 5 post G1 targetmasters list coming which includes all of those. I wont be using the word minicon as the description since from experience with these lists, people can get quite confused. There will be lists for best Unicron trilogy Minicon molds, best RID Minicons (maybe) and best Post G1 targetmasters (where the criteria is that its a robot that turns into a gun for a bot to use).
What about the mini-cons with Melee weapon modes? Or do you consider all of those so bad they can't make the list?
Re: Top 5 Best Personal Weapons Amongst Transformers Toys (1834168)
Posted by kurthy on October 17th, 2016 @ 9:52am CDT
I'm guessing Generations Scoop's target masters won't be on there.
Posted by kurthy on October 17th, 2016 @ 9:52am CDT
william-james88 wrote:Kyleor wrote:How about a somewhat related list, Top 5 Minicon weapons/with weapon modes, from Armada, Prime/Arms Micron, RiD 2015, etc.
I have a top 5 post G1 targetmasters list coming which includes all of those. I wont be using the word minicon as the description since from experience with these lists, people can get quite confused. There will be lists for best Unicron trilogy Minicon molds, best RID Minicons (maybe) and best Post G1 targetmasters (where the criteria is that its a robot that turns into a gun for a bot to use).
I'm guessing Generations Scoop's target masters won't be on there.
Re: Top 5 Best Personal Weapons Amongst Transformers Toys (1834169)
Posted by william-james88 on October 17th, 2016 @ 9:52am CDT
Any weapon counts. For instance, one on the list is the Bulkhead Micron who turns into a Knuckle:
Thats all I will reveal though
You guessed right
Posted by william-james88 on October 17th, 2016 @ 9:52am CDT
Kurona wrote:william-james88 wrote:Kyleor wrote:How about a somewhat related list, Top 5 Minicon weapons/with weapon modes, from Armada, Prime/Arms Micron, RiD 2015, etc.
I have a top 5 post G1 targetmasters list coming which includes all of those. I wont be using the word minicon as the description since from experience with these lists, people can get quite confused. There will be lists for best Unicron trilogy Minicon molds, best RID Minicons (maybe) and best Post G1 targetmasters (where the criteria is that its a robot that turns into a gun for a bot to use).
What about the mini-cons with Melee weapon modes? Or do you consider all of those so bad they can't make the list?
Any weapon counts. For instance, one on the list is the Bulkhead Micron who turns into a Knuckle:
Thats all I will reveal though
kurthy wrote:I'm guessing Generations Scoop's target masters won't be on there.
You guessed right
Re: Top 5 Best Personal Weapons Amongst Transformers Toys (1834177)
Posted by RK_Striker_JK_5 on October 17th, 2016 @ 11:35am CDT
Agreed. I'd take Springer's sword off and add Optimus' ion blaster/laser rifle. very iconic. A lot more than Springer's sword, IMHO.
Posted by RK_Striker_JK_5 on October 17th, 2016 @ 11:35am CDT
Cyberpath wrote:william-james88 wrote:If anyone cares, I was going to put Optimus' Ion Blaster here but I changed my mind. Even though I have my fair share of Optimus toys, which include his blaster, I never really liked it with Optimus. It feels so impersonal and partly uncharacteristic, and it was never a great looking or distinctive gun. It's just a big black gun that this wise and honourable emissary of peace (which is what he's been portrayed as in recent attempts to carry on G1 fiction) carries around with him. Would he really use a big gun to just blast someone's head off?
I don't know about those "Post-G1" continuities, but Optimus Prime was never a pacifist.
Would he like peace? Sure. But sometimes your enemies don't leave you a choice.
Remember the events that lead to his creation, Megatron and the Decepticons slaughtered the Autobots like lambs. Alpha Trion created Prime to be the ultimate warrior/leader.
If you're going up against the likes of Megatron and Devastator you're gonna need a powerful gun.
Optimus Prime rules and the ion blaster is definitely memorable, it's on my top five for sure.
Agreed. I'd take Springer's sword off and add Optimus' ion blaster/laser rifle. very iconic. A lot more than Springer's sword, IMHO.
Re: Top 5 Best Personal Weapons Amongst Transformers Toys (1834189)
Posted by william-james88 on October 17th, 2016 @ 12:49pm CDT
Its not just about being Iconic though. The huge amount of greese on a philly cheese steak sub is iconic, but its not great. Tommy Wiseau is an icon, but not a great one. You need a mix and I really never found Optimus's black gun to look great or interesting. It looks like any other big gun at a glance. So much so that for the G1 toy, I had an incomplete optimus so I just gave him one of the Predacon weapons and it works perfectly fine as a substitute. A propeller that turns into a sword is pretty awesome and smart as a design and I love how that idea evolved into the latest version we got with Thrilling 30 springer. Just opinions of course, glad to know your list would be so close to mine, Striker
Posted by william-james88 on October 17th, 2016 @ 12:49pm CDT
RK_Striker_JK_5 wrote:Agreed. I'd take Springer's sword off and add Optimus' ion blaster/laser rifle. very iconic. A lot more than Springer's sword, IMHO.
Its not just about being Iconic though. The huge amount of greese on a philly cheese steak sub is iconic, but its not great. Tommy Wiseau is an icon, but not a great one. You need a mix and I really never found Optimus's black gun to look great or interesting. It looks like any other big gun at a glance. So much so that for the G1 toy, I had an incomplete optimus so I just gave him one of the Predacon weapons and it works perfectly fine as a substitute. A propeller that turns into a sword is pretty awesome and smart as a design and I love how that idea evolved into the latest version we got with Thrilling 30 springer. Just opinions of course, glad to know your list would be so close to mine, Striker
Re: Top 5 Best Personal Weapons Amongst Transformers Toys (1834206)
Posted by Optimum Supreme on October 17th, 2016 @ 2:55pm CDT
Posted by Optimum Supreme on October 17th, 2016 @ 2:55pm CDT
Wow, someone really likes swords for their TF's!
The problem with Armada SS's sword is it's so thick. It's more a cudgel or club than a sword. Nicely corrected with the Gen Armada SS, though.
I really think the lack of OP's gun is a misstep. That thing is iconic. I read your reasons, but simply don't agree.
The problem with Armada SS's sword is it's so thick. It's more a cudgel or club than a sword. Nicely corrected with the Gen Armada SS, though.
I really think the lack of OP's gun is a misstep. That thing is iconic. I read your reasons, but simply don't agree.
Re: Top 5 Best Personal Weapons Amongst Transformers Toys (1834251)
Posted by william-james88 on October 17th, 2016 @ 7:12pm CDT
You dont have to agree, we all have different opinions, and hence why there can be no misteps. This isn't a list about most iconic weapons (that will be for another time), for now its just an opinion piece about cool and fun weapons throughout the franchise's history in both toys and fiction. And in an opinion piece the only mistep is going againt one's opinion
Posted by william-james88 on October 17th, 2016 @ 7:12pm CDT
Optimum Supreme wrote:I really think the lack of OP's gun is a misstep. That thing is iconic. I read your reasons, but simply don't agree.
You dont have to agree, we all have different opinions, and hence why there can be no misteps. This isn't a list about most iconic weapons (that will be for another time), for now its just an opinion piece about cool and fun weapons throughout the franchise's history in both toys and fiction. And in an opinion piece the only mistep is going againt one's opinion
Re: Top 5 Best Personal Weapons Amongst Transformers Toys (1834426)
Posted by paul053 on October 18th, 2016 @ 12:22pm CDT
Posted by paul053 on October 18th, 2016 @ 12:22pm CDT
Cool list!
I would somewhat mention Animated Prowl's shuriken.
I would somewhat mention Animated Prowl's shuriken.
Re: Top 5 Best Personal Weapons Amongst Transformers Toys (1834431)
Posted by william-james88 on October 18th, 2016 @ 12:33pm CDT
Posted by william-james88 on October 18th, 2016 @ 12:33pm CDT
Not his traffic light?
Those are awesome, I am sad they were tooled out of the samurai retool.
Those are awesome, I am sad they were tooled out of the samurai retool.
Re: Top 5 Best Personal Weapons Amongst Transformers Toys (1834714)
Posted by paul053 on October 19th, 2016 @ 10:54am CDT
Actually the wheel arm sword in samurai mode is kind of cool. Too bad mine suffered from serious quality issues and I had to get rid of him.
Posted by paul053 on October 19th, 2016 @ 10:54am CDT
william-james88 wrote:Not his traffic light?
Those are awesome, I am sad they were tooled out of the samurai retool.
Actually the wheel arm sword in samurai mode is kind of cool. Too bad mine suffered from serious quality issues and I had to get rid of him.
Re: Top 5 Best Personal Weapons Amongst Transformers Toys (1835552)
Posted by D-Maximal_Primal on October 22nd, 2016 @ 1:34am CDT
Posted by D-Maximal_Primal on October 22nd, 2016 @ 1:34am CDT
Finally got to the list, and it was a good one. But when I hear "weapon for a Transformer", there are a few different ones that come to mind, I think all of which had been mentioned already:
The Magnus Hammer. Animated has made it a thing where every Magnus wields it at least once and the toy has to come with it or make a hammer.
Prime's Axe. When I think of Optimus, the axe comes out. G1 had it in one episode and it has stuck for so long. Animated made it his signature weapon, and then the movies included it, along with the RiD toy. Plus, an axe is a very unique weapon.
Bruticus' Back Cannons. The whole deal with Bruticus is that to have a proper one, you need massive, legendary back cannons. G1 had it, Fall of Cybertron had them and used them in the game, There have been 3rd party kits to give toys better backcannons like his FoC toy, even his combiner wars toy sacrificed any personal weapons to give him proper back cannons. His back cannons are his weapon.
Rodimus' Arm Cannons and Saw. Every Rodimus/Hot Rod toy needs his pipes on his forearms, and they always are meant to be used as guns. they are a staple of his design, needed to be identifiable, and always part of his arsenal. Same goes for his saw. The MP includes it, Shattered glass gave him a saw instead of a hand, It was used for one of the iconic parts of the 86 movie, etc.
Megatron's fusion cannon. enough said about it already.
The Magnus Hammer. Animated has made it a thing where every Magnus wields it at least once and the toy has to come with it or make a hammer.
Prime's Axe. When I think of Optimus, the axe comes out. G1 had it in one episode and it has stuck for so long. Animated made it his signature weapon, and then the movies included it, along with the RiD toy. Plus, an axe is a very unique weapon.
Bruticus' Back Cannons. The whole deal with Bruticus is that to have a proper one, you need massive, legendary back cannons. G1 had it, Fall of Cybertron had them and used them in the game, There have been 3rd party kits to give toys better backcannons like his FoC toy, even his combiner wars toy sacrificed any personal weapons to give him proper back cannons. His back cannons are his weapon.
Rodimus' Arm Cannons and Saw. Every Rodimus/Hot Rod toy needs his pipes on his forearms, and they always are meant to be used as guns. they are a staple of his design, needed to be identifiable, and always part of his arsenal. Same goes for his saw. The MP includes it, Shattered glass gave him a saw instead of a hand, It was used for one of the iconic parts of the 86 movie, etc.
Megatron's fusion cannon. enough said about it already.
Re: Top 5 Best Personal Weapons Amongst Transformers Toys (1835555)
Posted by Kurona on October 22nd, 2016 @ 1:49am CDT
Posted by Kurona on October 22nd, 2016 @ 1:49am CDT
Agree on most of those except Rodimus' saw. It's kind of a cool extra but it's not what I think of when I think of the character like I do Prime's Axe or Bruticus' back cannon. Those pipe guns are his thing.
Fits SG Rodimus though.
Fits SG Rodimus though.
