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News Credits: 12 · Sat Jul 30, 2011 12:11 am

I totally understand not wanting to do a run for just one thing.

That remaining junk will come right off after a soak in purple power. Let it sit for a few hours without trying to fuss with it. Then you can pass the toothbrush over it and get it all off.

Once it's clean, I have a fix for the Krylon. I did some testing and I figured out the problem.

I'm pretty sure the parts you painted weren't cleaned all the way. GW is notorious for over oiling the molds which can cause severe issue for painting later on. Make sure you clean the sprues off in either purple power or some warm soapy water before beginning a build.

I was able to recreate the tacky paint when I painted a non clean sprue, but got the normal hard paint with a clean sprue.

Sat Jul 30, 2011 12:48 am

I'm going to get some of that purple power tomorrow, rest assured I'll do as you suggest.

The news about GW's waxy residue is news to me. which makes me glad that I haven't stared painting my other models yet. But the other problem was that mine had no nozzle, and I had to put it inches away from the model to get any coverage at all. that's before I really noticed that it had no nozzle, where it showed one on the can's example of the nozzle. ... sometimes I'm not very observant.

News Credits: 12 · Sat Jul 30, 2011 1:15 am

You'll find in about every 5 or so boxes that GW sprues sometimes have weird brown oily stuff on them. Not a lot, but enough to make you go huh?

Ulike most companies that only put oil on a mold before it's sent to storage, GW like to oile them a lot. Why? I don't know.

The plastic is waxy by natue so the residues can be prone to doing some funky stuff. with paint when it's not cleaned properly.

I learned a lot of this from my local GW before they went out of business and from experience as well.

A good trick for the paint also is to let the can sit in warm water for a bit. Get the paint warm before you paint. It will loosen it up and create a finer, more controllable mist.

I forgot to suggest that cause I live in a warm area where I only do that in the winter. You might find it helpful.

Sun Jul 31, 2011 3:36 pm

well, my icon bearer sat in purple power last night, watered it down about 3parts PP to 1 part water just for some safety since it was the concentrated large jug. and it took nearly everything off.

with a new proper can of paint I have three marines and one sorcerer properly painted.

News Credits: 12 · Mon Aug 01, 2011 10:13 pm

Psycho Warrior wrote:well, my icon bearer sat in purple power last night, watered it down about 3parts PP to 1 part water just for some safety since it was the concentrated large jug. and it took nearly everything off.

with a new proper can of paint I have three marines and one sorcerer properly painted.

See what some purple power and a Krylon can that has a nozzle can do?

Wed Aug 03, 2011 1:58 am

namely let me get this far after, what 2 weeks of cleaning that first fiasco? X3

not bad for the bottom half of the pole braking off, the top spike braking off,

News Credits: 12 · Wed Aug 03, 2011 2:03 am

A 2 week learning curve is better than several years in which you make several hundred dollars in mistakes.

You're farther ahead than I was when I started building. Lots of trial and error.

Wed Aug 03, 2011 12:10 pm

quick question about purple power, is it good for cleaning brushes?

News Credits: 12 · Wed Aug 03, 2011 12:50 pm

Psycho Warrior wrote:quick question about purple power, is it good for cleaning brushes?

Umm, I haven't tried that, but I would think so as long as you clean it out with water afterwards.

Make sure you don't dip it in the solution past the bristles. If you do then the purple power has the chance to eat at the adehesives holding the brush together. That will not make you happy.

I usually clean my brushes with alcohol and water.

Fri Aug 05, 2011 8:16 pm

4 incomplete marines, one unpainted torso, and a incomplete sorcerer of chaos. I'm leaving the heads off to paint them separate. paint's sort of been slopped on as base coats, so I can get some detail. My gold paint... not happy with it. I mistakenly watered it down with paint thinner before learning it was a water based paint. Live and learn. ^^;

Sort of bouncing between them as I paint.

News Credits: 12 · Sun Aug 07, 2011 1:11 am

They look great so far.

So for painting methods, do you do the assembly line style? I'm very prone to going through the tedious process of painting them one color at a time. Note, this is faster, but also mundane when you pick out all of one color on a set of troops and then move onto the next color.

Sun Aug 07, 2011 10:47 am

robofreak wrote:They look great so far.

So for painting methods, do you do the assembly line style? I'm very prone to going through the tedious process of painting them one color at a time. Note, this is faster, but also mundane when you pick out all of one color on a set of troops and then move onto the next color.

well, yes and no. since I'm using the sons of malice paint scheme I have to start with the white coat of base paint, then set up the black arm, half of the chest, and leg, and then going for the gold trim. but I when it comes to the gold part I'm hardly mechanistic about it. I tend to notice something and try to fix it. maybe I am and maybe I'm not.

I still have 6 unpainted marines, since I'm giving them bolters and a meltagun I'm trying to get the empty arm that holds the gun on their torso first. I hate painting these guys with lots of obstructions in the way (that huge melta gun carried over the chest would be a bitch)

News Credits: 12 · Sun Aug 07, 2011 2:39 pm

That's why I hate painting marines. They have tone of little details and parts that make it difficult to get to everything else.

I love the tanks though.

Sun Aug 07, 2011 6:45 pm

robofreak wrote:That's why I hate painting marines. They have tone of little details and parts that make it difficult to get to everything else.

I love the tanks though.

I'm already hating the sorcerer of chaos I have. my marines are blank slates compared to him. =/

Mon Aug 15, 2011 1:08 am

My latest update. its a big pic, so I suggest copying it to get a good look. the icon of nurgle is my best work so far. changed to the Purge instead of the Sons of Malice cause its easier to paint them

Sat Aug 20, 2011 10:07 pm

I got into 40K and Fantasy about 10 years ago, but I gave it up because it got too expensive. I'll get back into it if I ever get a decent paying job.

Mon Aug 22, 2011 2:42 pm

I know right? 99 bucks for a baneblade? 39 for a demon prince? 20 for a pack of 5 chaos demons? geeze...

Done
http://jazzerman.deviantart.com/#/d470fwe

News Credits: 1 · Tue Aug 23, 2011 6:25 pm

Lookin' good!

Great job on the weathering of the melta!

Wed Aug 24, 2011 10:52 am

Jesterhead wrote:Lookin' good!

Great job on the weathering of the melta!

hey thanks man. :3

I would have preferred to use Blazing Orange for a better rust effect but I don't have any. With the costs of models and paints I really can't afford the variation in color I want. really, my local shop wants 45 bucks for a box of 7 plague marines. ><

News Credits: 1 · Wed Aug 24, 2011 12:59 pm

Psycho Warrior wrote: my local shop wants 45 bucks for a box of 7 plague marines. ><

I feel your pain man!

I built a squad of them last year (along with a winged Nurgle Daemon Prince! :twisted:

). Good looking models, but you need to do some conversions to arm them with anything decent. :BOOM:

Wed Aug 24, 2011 5:14 pm

Jesterhead wrote:I built a squad of them last year (along with a winged Nurgle Daemon Prince! ). Good looking models, but you need to do some conversions to arm them with anything decent.

I'd recently started looking for good prices for Plague marines when i saw you can convert vanilla CSMs using greenstuff. I have no experience with modeling clay but I'd be willing to try it.

But as for armament I know the sprues in the CSM box came with next to diddly. I'd want a multimelta at least. ><

and yes, I do feel a little envy over that winged Nurgle prince. (funny how the undivided one also has no wings included. :-?

) I was tempted to get noise marines but I hear they're pretty 'meh'

News Credits: 1 · Wed Aug 24, 2011 6:53 pm

Psycho Warrior wrote: I was tempted to get noise marines but I hear they're pretty 'meh'

Ya, they aren't really the best choice for their price. I have two squads of six though. All armed with sonic blasters and blastmasters. Great looking minis, and very fluffy, but only really good for laying down lots of sonic weaponry. Their +1 initiative isn't all that great.

Here are my Death Guard:

Wed Aug 24, 2011 7:08 pm

friggin awesome wings on the prince, though, a bit large IMHO. Balrog wings I'm guessing?

Also, I think I'm seeing a possessed marine claw on the lead marine. I can also tell you're using the pre heresy scheme on them. odd choice but it works. 'Course, I love the death guard fluff. :grin:

News Credits: 1 · Wed Aug 24, 2011 7:12 pm

Psycho Warrior wrote:friggin awesome wings on the prince, though, a bit large IMHO. Balrog wings I'm guessing?

Also, I think I'm seeing a possessed marine claw on the lead marine. I can also tell you're using the pre heresy scheme on them. odd choice but it works. 'Course, I love the death guard fluff.

The wings are from a Macfarlane Dragon I picked on discount lol!

The claw (count as powerfist) is a plastic CSM arm, with two Daemonette claws put together.

Ya, I love Heresy era schemes on my traitor Marines. My Emperor's Children are also painted in their pre-Heresy scheme. After reading the Horus Heresy books from Black Library, I just can't get enough Warhammer 30,000

Wed Aug 24, 2011 11:59 pm

I have 2 of the 40k books. Storm of Iron (didn't realize it was a sequel when I picked it up) and Soul hunter. Iron warriors and the Night Lords/black Legion.

I see I'm going to have to think a bit more out of the box if I'm going to start converting. I never even thought about the slasnesh demonettes... Really, who cares about possessed? X3 (though they look friggin badass)

Miniwargaming.com is a good place I learned about, and what got me into 40k. But I loved this idea that they showed. I wanted Noise marines but I want to run a nurgle army. Well, an army based around Epidemius, tallyman of nurgle. And I loved the idea they presented: cross cult marines.
http://www.miniwargaming.com/forum/view ... 36&start=0