negifan wrote:Sorry for derailing
probably discussed earlier in thread
WTF with the changing sequence of Galvatron and the KSI-formers? is this an attempt to bring Kreo into the movieverse?
Slashercon wrote:ZeroWolf wrote:Slashercon wrote:How to Train Your Dragon 2...an example of a superior film to something that is getting heaps of money. And I haven't even seen AOE yet. I KNOW that I'm gonna see and maybe possibly enjoy it.(I refuse to pay money for seeing it.) And seeing Bay pass up so many directors is a constant reminder of the shear ignorance of the world. (This is is also the most negative post I've ever had on seibertron.)
I think that's a little harsh. About the ignorance of the world I mean, people have seen this and loved it, getting their money's worth. People see what will interest them.
Sad but true. But I still stand by what I said, harsh or not. I honestly think the only reason I'm so upset is because HTTYD2 isn't doing well financially while TF4 is. Had that not been the case, I probably wouldn't be as riled up. And I'm not even a hardcore Dragons fan.
Megatron Wolf wrote:great now hes never going to go away. But this doenst prove anything it just shows he knows when to release movies. I guarantee if he released his movies during the winter or when there was another big name movie out he wouldnt do so good. If he wants to show how "good" his movies are go head to head with avengers or the next avatar. But im surprised to see lucas so low on the list, i thought he wouldd be 2nd or 3rd.
Burn wrote:Megatron Wolf wrote:great now hes never going to go away. But this doenst prove anything it just shows he knows when to release movies. I guarantee if he released his movies during the winter or when there was another big name movie out he wouldnt do so good. If he wants to show how "good" his movies are go head to head with avengers or the next avatar. But im surprised to see lucas so low on the list, i thought he wouldd be 2nd or 3rd.
I think you'll find the release dates are set by the studios Marketing Department, the Director would have very little say in it.
Much like the Director doesn't write the scripts with all the plot holes.
But hey, Bay bashing ... I get it, people enjoy it, it should be an Olympic sport.
ZeroWolf wrote:That would make for an interesting sport...How would you judge it?.
Seriously though I bet some movies in the past and present, have had their release dates changed to avoid competing with a Transformers movie.
Mr_Autobot411 wrote:the fact that bay is 2nd on this list because of the goddamn awful tf films tells me a few things............a lot of ppl are way to easily entertained but utter garbage these days.........and most ppl that are stuffing bays pocket have no goddamn taste or care about a good story............
I love TFs since i was a kid in the 80s, all the shows i watched..........these movies are not TFs to me.......more like goddamn go bots........
if i offended anyone by my comments.....OH WELL!!!! :KREMZEEK: >:oP
Shadowman wrote:This is Sabrblade we're talking about. His ability to store trivial information about TV shows is downright superhuman.
Caelus wrote:My wife pointed out something interesting about the prehistoric Predacons. I said that everyone was complaining because transforming for them mostly consisted of them just standing up-right. She essentially said, 'So? That's what our ancestors did.'
Sabrblade wrote:Anyone here who felt that it was "objectively bad" but still "subjectively enjoyed" it?
Not entirely, as the concept of accepting a movie as "not a good movie" yet still finding enjoyment in it makes it into a "guilty pleasure".Rodimus Prime wrote:Sabrblade wrote:Anyone here who felt that it was "objectively bad" but still "subjectively enjoyed" it?
I think that would be kinda tough to do.
Shadowman wrote:This is Sabrblade we're talking about. His ability to store trivial information about TV shows is downright superhuman.
Caelus wrote:My wife pointed out something interesting about the prehistoric Predacons. I said that everyone was complaining because transforming for them mostly consisted of them just standing up-right. She essentially said, 'So? That's what our ancestors did.'
Sabrblade wrote:Not entirely, as the concept of accepting a movie as "not a good movie" yet still finding enjoyment in it makes it into a "guilty pleasure".Rodimus Prime wrote:Sabrblade wrote:Anyone here who felt that it was "objectively bad" but still "subjectively enjoyed" it?
I think that would be kinda tough to do.
Take the G1 cartoon, for instance. By today's standards, it's 98 episodes of mediocre storytelling, archaic animation, one- to two-dimensional characters, hokey science/logic, and purely non-nutritional substance. Yet, it is still beloved by many fans who, even after removing their nostalgia glasses, get some genuine enjoyment out of it. There are many fans who accept it for what it is, yet still find it delightful.
'Course, I am just referring to the fans who openly recognize it as being far from masterpiece quality and not those other particular fans who have been so blinded by their nostalgia into thinking that the G1 cartoon seriously is a masterpiece, but I digress.
As an example of my own, I see the RiD cartoon as hardly worthwhile from an objective viewpoint, yet still get a kick out of it from a subjective viewpoint. Thus, the RiD cartoon is my guilty pleasure.
What if I were to show you a person who can?Rodimus Prime wrote:Well, then maybe in 20-30 years when the technology for CGI improves very much over the current being used, and perhaps there will be great TF movies with serious TF stories being made as true reboots of this series of films, these TF movies will be watched purely for guilty pleasure enjoyment. But right now, it's the best we have, and I don't think most people can look at it as a good "bad" movie.
Shadowman wrote:This is Sabrblade we're talking about. His ability to store trivial information about TV shows is downright superhuman.
Caelus wrote:My wife pointed out something interesting about the prehistoric Predacons. I said that everyone was complaining because transforming for them mostly consisted of them just standing up-right. She essentially said, 'So? That's what our ancestors did.'
So, you had to explain something by making something up? There was never any hint of Dark Energon existing in these movies, so no one should ever be thinking about Dark Energon when watching these movies.powersteamracing wrote:Although I had to explain to my wife that he was probably able to survive dieing from DOTM because of dark Energon. I know he hacked the man made bots, but it looked like Dark Energon to me more than just a virus. Maybe that might be a plot point in one of the next movies.
It's simple, really. Megatron's alive as Galvatron when he shouldn't be alive. So it's a plot hole.powersteamracing wrote:I know Dark Energon wasn't mentioned, but the movie didn't really explain how Megatron survives. Optimus says the Spark contains the memories/soul........ but Galvatron doesn't have a Spark, little alone Megatron's. I can buy that his memory was downloaded into the new body, but again, Optimus said the Spark has the memories. Don't get me wrong I'm ok with the idea of Megs essentially being a virus of some sort, but trying to explain it to a woman who has very little TF knowledge, I had to come up with something. lol
Shadowman wrote:This is Sabrblade we're talking about. His ability to store trivial information about TV shows is downright superhuman.
Caelus wrote:My wife pointed out something interesting about the prehistoric Predacons. I said that everyone was complaining because transforming for them mostly consisted of them just standing up-right. She essentially said, 'So? That's what our ancestors did.'
Even still, Galvatron should not have even been alive without a spark. A Transformer cannot survive without one, unless they're just lifeless drones or zombies running on artificial power sources. Or if they're powered by AllSpark energy substituting their spark.Sub-Prime wrote:it's not really a plot hole. Galvatron doesn't have Megatrons soul anymore. Only his thoughts. Remember when Optimus told him " You have no soul"?
Shadowman wrote:This is Sabrblade we're talking about. His ability to store trivial information about TV shows is downright superhuman.
Caelus wrote:My wife pointed out something interesting about the prehistoric Predacons. I said that everyone was complaining because transforming for them mostly consisted of them just standing up-right. She essentially said, 'So? That's what our ancestors did.'
But Galvatron was shown to be alive. It was a plot point of the movie. That's what clashes with his having no spark.Sub-Prime wrote:None of the KSI bots had a spark either so you answered your question. They are running on some other power source. The Humans can't create a spark.
Shadowman wrote:This is Sabrblade we're talking about. His ability to store trivial information about TV shows is downright superhuman.
Caelus wrote:My wife pointed out something interesting about the prehistoric Predacons. I said that everyone was complaining because transforming for them mostly consisted of them just standing up-right. She essentially said, 'So? That's what our ancestors did.'
Sabrblade wrote:But Galvatron was shown to be alive. It was a plot point of the movie. That's what clashes with his having no spark.Sub-Prime wrote:None of the KSI bots had a spark either so you answered your question. They are running on some other power source. The Humans can't create a spark.
Where/when was that shown/stated?Sub-Prime wrote:Let's also remember that the humans have a piece of the allspark.
Shadowman wrote:This is Sabrblade we're talking about. His ability to store trivial information about TV shows is downright superhuman.
Caelus wrote:My wife pointed out something interesting about the prehistoric Predacons. I said that everyone was complaining because transforming for them mostly consisted of them just standing up-right. She essentially said, 'So? That's what our ancestors did.'
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