Nico wrote:Well, that wouldn't be the first time a serie suffer from a "trilogy creep" but the problem with that is that each movie attempt to out do the other in term of special effect (such as ever bigger robots and explosions).
SlyTF1 wrote:Nico wrote:Well, that wouldn't be the first time a serie suffer from a "trilogy creep" but the problem with that is that each movie attempt to out do the other in term of special effect (such as ever bigger robots and explosions).
How is that a problem?
SlyTF1 wrote:Nico wrote:Well, that wouldn't be the first time a serie suffer from a "trilogy creep" but the problem with that is that each movie attempt to out do the other in term of special effect (such as ever bigger robots and explosions).
How is that a problem?
shamone wrote:SlyTF1 wrote:Nico wrote:Well, that wouldn't be the first time a serie suffer from a "trilogy creep" but the problem with that is that each movie attempt to out do the other in term of special effect (such as ever bigger robots and explosions).
How is that a problem?
some people prefer less explosions more plot.
SlyTF1 wrote:shamone wrote:SlyTF1 wrote:Nico wrote:Well, that wouldn't be the first time a serie suffer from a "trilogy creep" but the problem with that is that each movie attempt to out do the other in term of special effect (such as ever bigger robots and explosions).
How is that a problem?
some people prefer less explosions more plot.
For what purpose? What do you get out of a plot? You can't see a plot. So why come watch a movie if that's all you want?
Nico wrote:The problem is that if that eventually it will be hard to top the previous ones if a movie attempt to be smaller in scope. To give examples, once you stand on galaxies or crush the sun with a huge hammer, its hard to top stuff like that.
Capt.Failure wrote:SlyTF1 wrote:shamone wrote:SlyTF1 wrote:Nico wrote:Well, that wouldn't be the first time a serie suffer from a "trilogy creep" but the problem with that is that each movie attempt to out do the other in term of special effect (such as ever bigger robots and explosions).
How is that a problem?
some people prefer less explosions more plot.
For what purpose? What do you get out of a plot? You can't see a plot. So why come watch a movie if that's all you want?
It's a matter of enjoying something more on an intellectual level vs. a more visual level. Movies that are are low plot/high effects are primarily meant to be enjoyed as spectacles of the eye. I still believe anyone who expected otherwise of the Transformers films was barking up the wrong tree.
At the same time, some people perfer movies that surprise them with twists and turns in the story or deeper mysteries. These kinds of films usually have action and spectacle take a back seat. Mind you there's nothing wrong with enjoying one over the other, or even both together.
The idea that the Transformers films are bad due to not being focused on plot is just asinine. I perfer many plot heavy films, but sometimes I just wanna see all the pretty lights too.
SlyTF1 wrote:Capt.Failure wrote:SlyTF1 wrote:shamone wrote:SlyTF1 wrote:Nico wrote:Well, that wouldn't be the first time a serie suffer from a "trilogy creep" but the problem with that is that each movie attempt to out do the other in term of special effect (such as ever bigger robots and explosions).
How is that a problem?
some people prefer less explosions more plot.
For what purpose? What do you get out of a plot? You can't see a plot. So why come watch a movie if that's all you want?
It's a matter of enjoying something more on an intellectual level vs. a more visual level. Movies that are are low plot/high effects are primarily meant to be enjoyed as spectacles of the eye. I still believe anyone who expected otherwise of the Transformers films was barking up the wrong tree.
At the same time, some people perfer movies that surprise them with twists and turns in the story or deeper mysteries. These kinds of films usually have action and spectacle take a back seat. Mind you there's nothing wrong with enjoying one over the other, or even both together.
The idea that the Transformers films are bad due to not being focused on plot is just asinine. I perfer many plot heavy films, but sometimes I just wanna see all the pretty lights too.
The surprises only surprise you the first time you watch it. Then it gets boring watching the same "twist" take place over and over again.
Capt.Failure wrote:SlyTF1 wrote:Capt.Failure wrote:SlyTF1 wrote:shamone wrote:SlyTF1 wrote:Nico wrote:Well, that wouldn't be the first time a serie suffer from a "trilogy creep" but the problem with that is that each movie attempt to out do the other in term of special effect (such as ever bigger robots and explosions).
How is that a problem?
some people prefer less explosions more plot.
For what purpose? What do you get out of a plot? You can't see a plot. So why come watch a movie if that's all you want?
It's a matter of enjoying something more on an intellectual level vs. a more visual level. Movies that are are low plot/high effects are primarily meant to be enjoyed as spectacles of the eye. I still believe anyone who expected otherwise of the Transformers films was barking up the wrong tree.
At the same time, some people perfer movies that surprise them with twists and turns in the story or deeper mysteries. These kinds of films usually have action and spectacle take a back seat. Mind you there's nothing wrong with enjoying one over the other, or even both together.
The idea that the Transformers films are bad due to not being focused on plot is just asinine. I perfer many plot heavy films, but sometimes I just wanna see all the pretty lights too.
The surprises only surprise you the first time you watch it. Then it gets boring watching the same "twist" take place over and over again.
Usually it's about elements of the plot requiring multiple viewings to get things you may have missed. Not overt things but subtle stuff that might surprise you. This goes hand in hand with why more action filled films are open to repeat viewings, so you can "see the awesome" again. Each has it's own reason to be viewed over and over.
SlyTF1 wrote:Capt.Failure wrote:SlyTF1 wrote:Capt.Failure wrote:SlyTF1 wrote:shamone wrote:SlyTF1 wrote:Nico wrote:Well, that wouldn't be the first time a serie suffer from a "trilogy creep" but the problem with that is that each movie attempt to out do the other in term of special effect (such as ever bigger robots and explosions).
How is that a problem?
some people prefer less explosions more plot.
For what purpose? What do you get out of a plot? You can't see a plot. So why come watch a movie if that's all you want?
It's a matter of enjoying something more on an intellectual level vs. a more visual level. Movies that are are low plot/high effects are primarily meant to be enjoyed as spectacles of the eye. I still believe anyone who expected otherwise of the Transformers films was barking up the wrong tree.
At the same time, some people perfer movies that surprise them with twists and turns in the story or deeper mysteries. These kinds of films usually have action and spectacle take a back seat. Mind you there's nothing wrong with enjoying one over the other, or even both together.
The idea that the Transformers films are bad due to not being focused on plot is just asinine. I perfer many plot heavy films, but sometimes I just wanna see all the pretty lights too.
The surprises only surprise you the first time you watch it. Then it gets boring watching the same "twist" take place over and over again.
Usually it's about elements of the plot requiring multiple viewings to get things you may have missed. Not overt things but subtle stuff that might surprise you. This goes hand in hand with why more action filled films are open to repeat viewings, so you can "see the awesome" again. Each has it's own reason to be viewed over and over.
Come to think of it...it's the atmosphere of most movies that keep me interested in seeing them again.
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SlyTF1 wrote:shamone wrote:SlyTF1 wrote:Nico wrote:Well, that wouldn't be the first time a serie suffer from a "trilogy creep" but the problem with that is that each movie attempt to out do the other in term of special effect (such as ever bigger robots and explosions).
How is that a problem?
some people prefer less explosions more plot.
For what purpose? What do you get out of a plot? You can't see a plot. So why come watch a movie if that's all you want?
Starscream GaGa wrote:The difference in plots is that the first was campy and fun. The second wasn't.
Autobot032 wrote:SlyTF1 wrote:shamone wrote:SlyTF1 wrote:Nico wrote:Well, that wouldn't be the first time a serie suffer from a "trilogy creep" but the problem with that is that each movie attempt to out do the other in term of special effect (such as ever bigger robots and explosions).
How is that a problem?
some people prefer less explosions more plot.
For what purpose? What do you get out of a plot? You can't see a plot. So why come watch a movie if that's all you want?
This might just be one of the biggest brain poppers I've ever read.
The first movie had no plot. Glasses? eBay? Really?
The second movie had a plot. The critics and some fans didn't like it, but it was certainly better than the first, which is why I can watch it repeatedly.
The third will be the best of them, storywise. I can't imagine sitting through a movie that's nothing but explosions and special effects.
It would be like sitting through a continuous lightsaber battle that never ends, going on for 2.5 hours. Oh joy.
SlyTF1 wrote:Autobot032 wrote:SlyTF1 wrote:shamone wrote:SlyTF1 wrote:Nico wrote:Well, that wouldn't be the first time a serie suffer from a "trilogy creep" but the problem with that is that each movie attempt to out do the other in term of special effect (such as ever bigger robots and explosions).
How is that a problem?
some people prefer less explosions more plot.
For what purpose? What do you get out of a plot? You can't see a plot. So why come watch a movie if that's all you want?
This might just be one of the biggest brain poppers I've ever read.
The first movie had no plot. Glasses? eBay? Really?
The second movie had a plot. The critics and some fans didn't like it, but it was certainly better than the first, which is why I can watch it repeatedly.
The third will be the best of them, storywise. I can't imagine sitting through a movie that's nothing but explosions and special effects.
It would be like sitting through a continuous lightsaber battle that never ends, going on for 2.5 hours. Oh joy.
Too bad I wish there was a 2.5 hour lightsaber fight. That would be the best movie EVER.
Capt.Failure wrote:No the difference is you chose to ignore that there was a plot due to your dislike of the film. If you honestly believe it had no plot then you have a very slim grasp on how storytelling works.
Capt.Failure wrote:As for your Bladerunner comment, I've read Do Androids Dream of Electric Sheep. I wasn't impressed.
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