Starscream GaGa wrote:Capt.Failure wrote:No the difference is you chose to ignore that there was a plot due to your dislike of the film. If you honestly believe it had no plot then you have a very slim grasp on how storytelling works.
It has nothing to do with plot. Someone says they can't believe people let the stupid plot of the first movie slide, I'm saying it's easy to because it was a fun movie.Capt.Failure wrote:As for your Bladerunner comment, I've read Do Androids Dream of Electric Sheep. I wasn't impressed.
Well no, you wouldn't be. It needs the ability to be able to intellectually analyse something to appreciate, so I'm not surprised.
NewFoundStarscreamLuv wrote:me and my friends combine all the time. Sometimes I even combine by myself if no one is around.
Starscream GaGa wrote:Well no, you wouldn't be. It needs the ability to be able to intellectually analyse something to appreciate, so I'm not surprised.
Capt.Failure wrote:Starscream GaGa wrote:The difference in plots is that the first was campy and fun. The second wasn't.
No the difference is you chose to ignore that there was a plot due to your dislike of the film. If you honestly believe it had no plot then you have a very slim grasp on how storytelling works.
As for your Bladerunner comment, I've read Do Androids Dream of Electric Sheep. I wasn't impressed.
Let me bulletpoint it for you:
1. Sam absorbs cube knowledge.
2. Decepticons go after Sam.
3. Optimus dies protecting Sam.
4. Sam seeks out Simons for info on the symbols and how to read them.
5. They learn of Transformers hiding on Earth for centuries.
6. Wheelie says these Transformers can read Ancient Cybertronian, points them to Jetfire.
7. Jetfire translates the symbols, sets Sam and co. on their mission.
8. Simons calls Lennox while they search for the doorway.
9. They find the doorway and the Tomb of the Primes.
8. Sam and co. make their way to Lennox as the final battle is joined.
9. Sam dies, meets the Primes, and is ressurected with the Matrix.
10. Sam revives Optimus.
11. Optimus kills the Fallen.
That's the simple version, so it should be easy for even you to read.
shamone wrote:Capt.Failure wrote:Starscream GaGa wrote:The difference in plots is that the first was campy and fun. The second wasn't.
No the difference is you chose to ignore that there was a plot due to your dislike of the film. If you honestly believe it had no plot then you have a very slim grasp on how storytelling works.
As for your Bladerunner comment, I've read Do Androids Dream of Electric Sheep. I wasn't impressed.
Let me bulletpoint it for you:
1. Sam absorbs cube knowledge.
2. Decepticons go after Sam.
3. Optimus dies protecting Sam.
4. Sam seeks out Simons for info on the symbols and how to read them.
5. They learn of Transformers hiding on Earth for centuries.
6. Wheelie says these Transformers can read Ancient Cybertronian, points them to Jetfire.
7. Jetfire translates the symbols, sets Sam and co. on their mission.
8. Simons calls Lennox while they search for the doorway.
9. They find the doorway and the Tomb of the Primes.
8. Sam and co. make their way to Lennox as the final battle is joined.
9. Sam dies, meets the Primes, and is ressurected with the Matrix.
10. Sam revives Optimus.
11. Optimus kills the Fallen.
That's the simple version, so it should be easy for even you to read.
can you please identify where mr gaga said there was no plot in rotf. Well i can say it for you, he didnt. You just used what he said to launch another man-bay-love rant.
yes there was a plot to rotf, the fact it was written by what seems to be a ridelin addled ADD 7 yar old is neither here nor there
Capt.Failure wrote:shamone wrote:Capt.Failure wrote:Starscream GaGa wrote:The difference in plots is that the first was campy and fun. The second wasn't.
No the difference is you chose to ignore that there was a plot due to your dislike of the film. If you honestly believe it had no plot then you have a very slim grasp on how storytelling works.
As for your Bladerunner comment, I've read Do Androids Dream of Electric Sheep. I wasn't impressed.
Let me bulletpoint it for you:
1. Sam absorbs cube knowledge.
2. Decepticons go after Sam.
3. Optimus dies protecting Sam.
4. Sam seeks out Simons for info on the symbols and how to read them.
5. They learn of Transformers hiding on Earth for centuries.
6. Wheelie says these Transformers can read Ancient Cybertronian, points them to Jetfire.
7. Jetfire translates the symbols, sets Sam and co. on their mission.
8. Simons calls Lennox while they search for the doorway.
9. They find the doorway and the Tomb of the Primes.
8. Sam and co. make their way to Lennox as the final battle is joined.
9. Sam dies, meets the Primes, and is ressurected with the Matrix.
10. Sam revives Optimus.
11. Optimus kills the Fallen.
That's the simple version, so it should be easy for even you to read.
can you please identify where mr gaga said there was no plot in rotf. Well i can say it for you, he didnt. You just used what he said to launch another man-bay-love rant.
yes there was a plot to rotf, the fact it was written by what seems to be a ridelin addled ADD 7 yar old is neither here nor there
Your opinion is not fact, sorry. If you had trouble following such a simple plot I really feel sorry for you. Also, if someone was "ritalin addled" they'd be slowed down to the degree of a drooling simpleton. If you're going to toss canned insults at the film at least research some basic knowledge of plot structure and the mental disorders you wish to use as insults, please.
Now if you don't mind, since this thread has become little more than insults toward me and canned, uneducated complaints about something that's been talked to death I'll bow out of this discussion.
shamone wrote:Capt.Failure wrote:shamone wrote:Capt.Failure wrote:Starscream GaGa wrote:The difference in plots is that the first was campy and fun. The second wasn't.
No the difference is you chose to ignore that there was a plot due to your dislike of the film. If you honestly believe it had no plot then you have a very slim grasp on how storytelling works.
As for your Bladerunner comment, I've read Do Androids Dream of Electric Sheep. I wasn't impressed.
Let me bulletpoint it for you:
1. Sam absorbs cube knowledge.
2. Decepticons go after Sam.
3. Optimus dies protecting Sam.
4. Sam seeks out Simons for info on the symbols and how to read them.
5. They learn of Transformers hiding on Earth for centuries.
6. Wheelie says these Transformers can read Ancient Cybertronian, points them to Jetfire.
7. Jetfire translates the symbols, sets Sam and co. on their mission.
8. Simons calls Lennox while they search for the doorway.
9. They find the doorway and the Tomb of the Primes.
8. Sam and co. make their way to Lennox as the final battle is joined.
9. Sam dies, meets the Primes, and is ressurected with the Matrix.
10. Sam revives Optimus.
11. Optimus kills the Fallen.
That's the simple version, so it should be easy for even you to read.
can you please identify where mr gaga said there was no plot in rotf. Well i can say it for you, he didnt. You just used what he said to launch another man-bay-love rant.
yes there was a plot to rotf, the fact it was written by what seems to be a ridelin addled ADD 7 yar old is neither here nor there
Your opinion is not fact, sorry. If you had trouble following such a simple plot I really feel sorry for you. Also, if someone was "ritalin addled" they'd be slowed down to the degree of a drooling simpleton. If you're going to toss canned insults at the film at least research some basic knowledge of plot structure and the mental disorders you wish to use as insults, please.
Now if you don't mind, since this thread has become little more than insults toward me and canned, uneducated complaints about something that's been talked to death I'll bow out of this discussion.
where did i say i couldnt follow the plot.
also point out
where i insulted you
or where gaga said there was no plot
you misquote people left right and centre and then back out when called out
SlyTF1 wrote:shamone wrote:SlyTF1 wrote:Nico wrote:Well, that wouldn't be the first time a serie suffer from a "trilogy creep" but the problem with that is that each movie attempt to out do the other in term of special effect (such as ever bigger robots and explosions).
How is that a problem?
some people prefer less explosions more plot.
For what purpose? What do you get out of a plot? You can't see a plot. So why come watch a movie if that's all you want?
SlyTF1 wrote:For what purpose? What do you get out of a plot? You can't see a plot. So why come watch a movie if that's all you want?
Shia LaBeouf wrote:Then it's just a bunch of robots fighting each other
Henry921 wrote:You can always be counted on to listen to reason, Pryme.
Dead Metal wrote:Have you ever, and i mean ever seen/read/heard something that is completely original and does not copy/homage/pay tribute to something else? Here's a hint: Nope. You never have and you never will.
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