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News Credits: 1452 · by **Blurrz** » Fri Sep 21, 2012 2:11 pm

Mkall wrote:Again with these figures?

I think it's fair to say that 80% of the adult collecting scene have these figures. >:oP

News Credits: 1 · by **Crystal Rodimus** » Fri Sep 21, 2012 3:41 pm

I've got the 25th Anniversary Prime reissue, but I don't have a Soundwave yet, so I'd love if this hit TRU again (though at a bad time, w/ MP Prime and all the Asian exclusives hitting soon too).

by **NTESHFT** » Fri Sep 21, 2012 3:49 pm

Got'em both already. And I'm slightly aggravated that my wife paid 150 for my Prime she got me for Christmas. Can't tell her about this...

100% agreed with the previous posts. AT least 85% of collectors should have one if not both of these guys already. Why not do other G1 reissues. I would give my left energon cube if they would do another mold of Sunstreeker. At least they could use that mold 3 times for the yellow, red, and maybe a SG version, if they wanted to go bold. Something else, anything else..... :HEADHURTS:

by **jamarmiller** » Fri Sep 21, 2012 4:32 pm

well I am happy about the Soundwave being re-done, my boy just started being introduced to G1 ( he is 4 ) and he loves soundwave and wants a toy of him and says so everytime he sees him on the cartoon

News Credits: 1 · by **KNM2012** » Fri Sep 21, 2012 11:23 pm

There is a reason why I am trying to stick with Takara/Takara Tomy, despite the fact that I either need to step up my ante or retire the idea of obtaining a "Henkei!" Skyfire, "Encore" Convoy, and/or "Masterpiece" Grimlock. It is because when they debuted their Encore line, they made it the way it was made... With a few minor improvements. This version has me feel like safety regulations are more important than the adult fanbase it is made for.

So I am passing on both, but recommending Soundwave on grounds that he doesn't have any modifications that would make him look weird (much less can still be broken off or even be an issue). >:oP

[quote="headsortails"]Got'em both already. And I'm slightly aggravated that my wife paid 150 for my Prime she got me for Christmas. Can't tell her about this.../quote]

Not to butt in, but why be aggravated at all? I mean your wife put the intention of spending $150 on something she knew that you would love... Not pay $150 on something she knew that you did not want but would not deny because you love her too much. Besides, it might be a sign to set up a system between you two when it comes to doing both the gift giving and money saving.

Then again... I tend to be a sentimental fool, putting the love placed on something I give the one I am with before the price I paid for it. :-B

News Credits: 60 · by **fenrir72** » Fri Sep 21, 2012 11:45 pm

The Soundwave international versions always have the missile launchers gutted out.

by **redoutlander** » Sat Sep 22, 2012 12:09 am

fenrir72 wrote:The Soundwave international versions always have the missile launchers gutted out.

uhh that's the worst. My TRU Reissue Preceptor has a glued trigger and it drives me nuts! I wish they at least had the trigger toggle with no spring because the missiles just fall right out.

I say that a little danger in the toys is natural selection. Meaning Naturally Select a age appropriate toy for your child.

News Credits: 226 · by **Burn** » Sat Sep 22, 2012 1:12 am

Mkall wrote:Again with these figures?

Now now Mkall. I'm sure SOMEONE out there still hasn't got them!

by **redoutlander** » Sat Sep 22, 2012 1:17 am

Burn wrote:
Mkall wrote:Again with these figures?

Now now Mkall. I'm sure SOMEONE out there still hasn't got them!

Hmm is this my chance to make a rover army?

News Credits: 226 · by **Burn** » Sat Sep 22, 2012 1:20 am

redoutlander wrote:
Burn wrote:
Mkall wrote:Again with these figures?

Now now Mkall. I'm sure SOMEONE out there still hasn't got them!

Hmm is this my chance to make a rover army?

Why not?

News Credits: 1 · by **SKYWARPED_128** » Sat Sep 22, 2012 2:44 am

I'm probably one of the extreme few adult collectors who doesn't own or want any of the G1 reissues.

I grew up in the 80's during the TF boom, but looking at the G1 toys now, they just don't appeal to me half as much as the much more articulated and advanced Generations and MP toys.

But if I were to ever want a G1 toy, it'd be Optimus and him alone. And it would be the Takara Tomy version, not the Hasbro one with the neutered smokestacks.

News Credits: 1 · by **KNM2012** » Sat Sep 22, 2012 3:25 am

SKYWARPED_128 wrote:I'm probably one of the extreme few adult collectors who doesn't own or want any of the G1 reissues.

I grew up in the 80's during the TF boom, but looking at the G1 toys now, they just don't appeal to me half as much as the much more articulated and advanced Generations and MP toys.

But if I were to ever want a G1 toy, it'd be Optimus and him alone. And it would be the Takara Tomy version, not the Hasbro one with the neutered smokestacks.

Actually,I am the complete opposite. While I did also grow up in the 80s and loved anything that was a transforming toy, the Takara Tomy version of the reissues are what got me into the idea of collecting Cybertron Commanders (3) and certain Destrons (2) for my core collection.

That, and I am disputing if I should seek out a Convoy. Because while he is a Supreme Commander, as well as one from the 1985-1987 range I am aiming at, he is just one of those characters I feel conflicted about. :BANG_HEAD:

News Credits: 95 · by **-Kanrabat-** » Sat Sep 22, 2012 5:59 am

KUMA-NIN Maximus wrote:There is a reason why I am trying to stick with Takara/Takara Tomy, (...) when they debuted their Encore line, they made it the way it was made... With a few minor improvements. This version has me feel like safety regulations are more important than the adult fanbase it is made for.

So I am passing on both, but recommending Soundwave on grounds that he doesn't have any modifications that would make him look weird (...)

Just pointing out that not only the USA G1 Soundwave have his missile launcher deactivated (dont change the look but it kinda suck) He have that double-chest cassette compartment to accomodate his two cassettes minions at the same time. It dont really look bad, but it's not the same as the original.

Personally, I kinda like that bigger chest. It make Soundwave look less flat and more beefy. Unfortunately, my Laserbeak dont transform completely flat so him and Ravage cannot go inside at the same time.

Oh well, I'm still glad to have got that reissue in that trade. If I count everything, buying the toy he wanted (KO Battle Tanker), plus paying the shipping so I receive the KO, then, paying the shipping so I can send it to him, it ammounted me at around 64$ total. Not too shabby considering that Soundwave reeisue was going for more than 100$ not just a few weeks ago. The inportant thing is, I'm happy I got my Soundwave and my trade partner is very glad of his KO Battle Tanker. So glad, that I may buy one for myself.

The good and bad thing about these reissue, depending on what side of the fence you are on, is that they will become cheaper on Ebay and such. This will give that change to those who still dont have these molds to buy them at prices that will not make their wallets cry for mercy.

News Credits: 95 · by **-Kanrabat-** » Sat Sep 22, 2012 6:20 am

SKYWARPED_128 wrote:I'm probably one of the extreme few adult collectors who doesn't own or want any of the G1 reissues.

I grew up in the 80's during the TF boom, but looking at the G1 toys now, they just don't appeal to me half as much as the much more articulated and advanced Generations and MP toys.

But if I were to ever want a G1 toy, it'd be Optimus and him alone. And it would be the Takara Tomy version, not the Hasbro one with the neutered smokestacks.

Optimus Prime with his trailer is one of the BEST G1 toy ever. Die cast parts, rubber tires, lots of features... and Decently articulated! Yes, articulations in a G1! He's sure not a brick.

That's my Optimus right there. It was the 25th anniversary reissue with trailer and the voicebox. Yes, it did have the short smokestacks. I just had to order a long pair made out of DIECAST instead of plastic for just under 10$. Modding him was a pain because inside thse arms is full of gears and springs! the complexity and engeneering was marvelously baffling. Way more complex than your good old balljoint.
Anyway, even if you dont like G1, it's your moral duty as a TF collector to at least have a complete G1 Optimus Prime. He's well worth your money. If you dont want to buy separate smokestacks and mod your reeisue, either you pay a lot to have a Takara, or you try to get a vintage one for cheap.
Got get him, he's well worth it, no matter what edition he is.

KUMA-NIN Maximus wrote:(...)
That, and I am disputing if I should seek out a Convoy. Because while he is a Supreme Commander, as well as one from the 1985-1987 range I am aiming at, he is just one of those characters I feel conflicted about.

Why are you "conflicted" about Optimus Prime? Are you trying to be blasphemous?! You cannot be conflicted about our lord who died many times for our sins! Get a G1 Optimus Prime. Now. And save your soul!

News Credits: 60 · by **fenrir72** » Sat Sep 22, 2012 7:25 am

Kanrabat you kill me.

At KMax, again if you do want one, I'd advise you to score an Encore. Aside from the smokestacks mod that Kanrabat mentioned ( ordered a pair for my TAU re-issue UM nearly 10 years ago ), this version (which I hope is better than the 25th anniversary version ...cruddy plastic materials and colors) also has that overly long missiles for his combat deck and no spring powered launcher.

I wouldn't put it past Hasbro to release another "blue" Roller and a malnourished ion rifle.

by **zappatton2** » Sat Sep 22, 2012 7:39 am

Random question, but do the commemorative and encore toys have the same die-cast parts as the 80's guys? I ask because someone gave me what I think is G2 Prime and Starscream, and they seem to be all plastic

News Credits: 1 · by **SKYWARPED_128** » Sat Sep 22, 2012 7:56 am

You've convinced me, Kanrabat. I just got flashbacks of being at the toy department with my late parents, salivating over a G1 OP, and knowing we couldn't afford one back then (it was priced at 90.00 local currency, which was A LOT back in the 80's for us).

If I see one at the hobby store going for a decent price, he's coming home with me.

News Credits: 95 · by **-Kanrabat-** » Sat Sep 22, 2012 12:04 pm

SKYWARPED_128 wrote:You've convinced me, Kanrabat. I just got flashbacks of being at the toy department with my late parents, salivating over a G1 OP, and knowing we couldn't afford one back then (it was priced at 90.00 local currency, which was A LOT back in the 80's for us).

If I see one at the hobby store going for a decent price, he's coming home with me.

Glad to see that! At worst, bid on a vintage one on Ebay. With all the times it got reisued, the price should be relatively reasonable and you'll have the "real" one from the mid-1980's.
Good luck finding him! I swear you will never regret it.

News Credits: 95 · by **-Kanrabat-** » Sat Sep 22, 2012 12:07 pm

zappatton2 wrote:Random question, but do the commemorative and encore toys have the same die-cast parts as the 80's guys? I ask because someone gave me what I think is G2 Prime and Starscream, and they seem to be all plastic

As far as I know for Optimus Prime, it have the same ammount of diecast in the same parts. The only difference are the missile launchers are powered down and are now extra long while OP's smokestacks got shortened.

If you dont have him, just get him when he's available. Then, like I said before, order a set of metal long smokestacks from Hong-Kong and start modding!

by **noctorro** » Sat Sep 22, 2012 12:12 pm

lol wut???

I'm perfectly happy with my blue windshield new year prime.
But I don't have a Soundwave, only a Soundblaster reissue.
I think I'll get him if he's sold for cheap.
There is the Encore set, and a hasbro reissue a few years ago.

They could've picked better characters. How about... characters that
have not been reissued yet?

Silly me, that's not a very good idea

News Credits: 1 · by **KNM2012** » Sat Sep 22, 2012 4:16 pm

-Kanrabat- wrote:
KUMA-NIN Maximus wrote:There is a reason why I am trying to stick with Takara/Takara Tomy, (...) when they debuted their Encore line, they made it the way it was made... With a few minor improvements. This version has me feel like safety regulations are more important than the adult fanbase it is made for.

So I am passing on both, but recommending Soundwave on grounds that he doesn't have any modifications that would make him look weird (...)

Just pointing out that not only the USA G1 Soundwave have his missile launcher deactivated (dont change the look but it kinda suck) He have that double-chest cassette compartment to accomodate his two cassettes minions at the same time. It dont really look bad, but it's not the same as the original.

Personally, I kinda like that bigger chest. It make Soundwave look less flat and more beefy. Unfortunately, my Laserbeak dont transform completely flat so him and Ravage cannot go inside at the same time.

Oh well, I'm still glad to have got that reissue in that trade. If I count everything, buying the toy he wanted (KO Battle Tanker), plus paying the shipping so I receive the KO, then, paying the shipping so I can send it to him, it ammounted me at around 64$ total. Not too shabby considering that Soundwave reeisue was going for more than 100$ not just a few weeks ago. The inportant thing is, I'm happy I got my Soundwave and my trade partner is very glad of his KO Battle Tanker. So glad, that I may buy one for myself.

The good and bad thing about these reissue, depending on what side of the fence you are on, is that they will become cheaper on Ebay and such. This will give that change to those who still dont have these molds to buy them at prices that will not make their wallets cry for mercy.

Honestly, every time I hear about the missiles, I think of the story on how the original mail-away Boba Fett was supposed to come with a missile that launches. But safety regulations made Kenner change that, and the only one made with said missile went for a huge chunk of money. And with your trade/acquisition, very nice! :APPLAUSE:

Also, I will not buy my Transformers off eBay on account that I plan to submit all of my pieces to AFA. That, and my collection fall into categories (which excludes both "Variant" and "Commander (Supreme)"), are not based on Hasbro exclusives, and may allow me to explain to others why I decided to overlook my budget prior to obtaining it.

I'll explain that when I can find the time to start a post about my collection. Plus, it is also why I am recommending Soundwave, even though I think Soundblaster might be an equally good choice.

News Credits: 95 · by **-Kanrabat-** » Sun Sep 23, 2012 5:53 am

KUMA-NIN Maximus wrote:(...)
And with your trade/acquisition, very nice!
(...)
Also, I will not buy my Transformers off eBay on account that I plan to submit all of my pieces to AFA.

Thanks! That was a risquy trade at first before the guy was completely new. He didn't even have a Paypal account! Still, with our lengty email exange, I had a good feeling that he was serious and we figured out that middle-manning trade was the best way to go.

As for the AFA thing, I'm sorry to say but I find this completely ridiculous. Not only you are not going to enjoy these toys, you are sealing them away forever! Because you certailny wont be displaying the AFA boxes to protect them from any light. Not counting the fortune it will cost each time you are AFAing.

Hoh well, like we say, your stuff, your money.

I, too, am guilty of keeping part of my collection sealed in packaging. However, they are at 98% doubles of Transformers I already own. This way, if something happen to one of my peice, I have a spare to replace it. Also, yeah, speculation. Still, everybody keep toys sealed nowadays so a sealed toy from today will be worth way less than the good old vintage. Offers/demands.

Anyway, what I mean is please AFA to your heart's content. BUT if you have the money to buy the rare and expensive peices and paying the expensive AFAing, you do have the money to get the reisue and enjoy the toy.
That feel when you remove it from packaging. The pleasure to apply stickers. The fun to transform them back and forth, posing them, and making dioramas! These toys are meant to be played with. Dont deny yourself that, even if your double is in a different color.
For example, SDCC Bruticus is worth AFAing, but you can get the G2 color or the retail version as your double to enjoy the mold.

Know what? I'm starting a new thread for that subject.

by **Breakdown 2099** » Mon Sep 24, 2012 5:43 am

Just out of sheer curiosity, are they the packages that they'll be coming in or are they using stock photos until they get them in hand?

by **jamarmiller** » Mon Sep 24, 2012 6:12 am

So can anyone confirm that these will be available in Japan ? It says takara so I am assuming yet I can pick this up at Toys R us Japan, but I really want to make sure and no miss out on the pre-order if it isnt. My boy really wants that soundwave

News Credits: 5749 · by **El Duque** » Mon Oct 29, 2012 8:13 pm

Late last month pre-orders started popping up for a new round of G1 Optimus Prime and Soundwave reissues. Thanks to an eBay auction we have our first look at this latest version of G1 Optimus Prime, which appears to come with the lighter gray trailer that was part of the 25th Anniversary reissue set. Images mirrored below.