ILM Animation Supervisor Scott Benza gives us a behind the scenes look at the animation performances behind the transformations in "Transformers: Dark of the Moon".
ILM Animation Supervisor Scott Benza gives us a behind the scenes look at the animation performances behind the transformations in "Transformers: Dark of the Moon".
-Kanrabat- wrote:YEah, too many Transformers are in a serious need of a good rim job.
Blast Cannon wrote:This thread is brilliant. Duragrip you are a gloriously weird sexual deviant and I love it.
Silverwing wrote:Also, I feel compelled to give the obligatory:
One for each year of the Movieverse's decade strong tenure. Here's to a few more explosive years!
Megatron Wolf wrote:doesnt matter how you try and justify it the transformations still look like a car turning into a pile of scrap metal and magically being put back together as a humanoid. Just look at Megatrons transformation in the video and try and say other wise.
Shadowman wrote:I will put forth the theory that it was the internet itself trying to punch him in the face.
Joshua Vallse wrote:Merry Early Christmas!!!!!
Now that thats out of the way...been a while, but anything having to do with VFX and art and such and I'm all over it...or Megan Fox muahahaha
That said, I understand actually where Megatron Wolf is coming from. Alot of the transformations in the earlier 2 films..."Fallen" being the best worst example, Bay stuck with his trademark XCU (Extreme Close Up, yes it's a real storyboard term) shots for mostly all the action and transformation sequences. That being done, with the camera so close to every moving bit and servo and bolt...you can't tell whats what and who is who and what is going where and into who...so yes, it looks like a pile of scrap. Pretty CGI scrap, but still scrap.
"Moon" on the other hand kept a good majority of the transformations sequences in wide shots...so you could actually see what on earth your looking at, and therefore it translates better. Not of course counting the characters which didn't transform at all like Shockwave or the Worm thing which spun and spun and spun, even then someone was wise enough to pull the camera back so you could make out exactly what it was your looking at. As for the vid, i like that they pointed out how the animators used the tranformations sequences to convey mood or emotion, which also appears in the first film. It was a very smart thing for the animators, however this 4th film goes, they would be very wise to hire the same animation team.
~Josh
Megatron Wolf wrote:...the transformations still look like a car turning into a pile of scrap metal and magically being put back together as a humanoid. Just look at Megatron's transformation in the video...
xtsaur wrote:Absolutely the transformations in the first movie were emotional as well. When Bumblebee first transformed in front of Sam and Mikela (sp?) it was very proud and and in there face... showed the whole transformer the whole time. when Optimus transformed the first time it was slow dilebarate and showed him more up close... too convey the level of detail and complexity of the Transformers as a race. When Barricade transformed in pursuit of Bumblebee it was done so in a quick frantic way to show a level of desperation... so to the idiot that posted the first movie didnt do this... you my friend are clueless. Every transfoming sequence from the first movie was emotionally done.
JOP wrote:Megatron Wolf wrote:...the transformations still look like a car turning into a pile of scrap metal and magically being put back together as a humanoid. Just look at Megatron's transformation in the video...
I am of the opinion that not all transformations are so afflicted; Bumblebee for instance has a very elegant transformation, as does Sideswipe. However, the transformations for both Optimus Prime and especially Megatron strike me as... unrefined? (Perhaps this was the animator's intent?)
Furthermore, while I can appreciate the skill necessary on the part of Industrial Light and Magic to create such highly detailed and complex designs, I believe it results in an end product that is less authentic. Simply put, Transformer toys of all eras have been limited in terms the size and number of moving pieces, and the available movement mechanisms; this in turn has informed both the design of characters and their transformations in accompanying media. Live-action cinema allows such limitations to be cast aside; in doing so however, the characters seem to lose much of the visual recognition of their forebears.
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Evil_the_Nub wrote:Shouldn't they keep progressing though? Those limitations have been pushed far beyond what they were in 1984. If they didn't keep pushing the envelope with new ideas and designs Transformers wouldn't have lasted nearly as long as it has. At it's core it's about alien robots that turn into cars, jets, and all kinds of other things and the movies hold true to that just as much as any other series.
JOP wrote: Essentially, the live-action designs represent significant progress in terms of Transformer detail and complexity; but the toys - due to such mundane considerations as material strength, cost, safety and so on - cannot follow (and indeed, have never been able to progress much in these particular areas). As a result, we see a divergence between the live-action designs, and all prior material; a lack of authenticity, as it were.
In short: is Megatron Transforming? (Note the uppercase 'T'). Or would it perhaps be safer to state that he is exploding into, and coalescing from, a mass of metal fragments?
Shadowman wrote:I will put forth the theory that it was the internet itself trying to punch him in the face.
5150 Cruiser wrote:I can understand from a collectors point of view being disappointed that the transformations, or designs not being 100% accurate to the movie counterpart...
Silverwing wrote:Also, I feel compelled to give the obligatory:
One for each year of the Movieverse's decade strong tenure. Here's to a few more explosive years!
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