TheForgottenTaxi wrote:I don't get all the hate for Orci and Kurtzman. I think Transformers Prime proves that they were not the problem.
Trikeboy wrote:I just got home from seeing the Avengers. If they sack Ehren Kruger and Michael Bay right now and hire Joss Whedon that would be awesome. Going by what he just did, I think it would be something special.
synthetik wrote:I know this thing is being greenlit for making dosh but can we stop dragging TF's good name through puddles of **** mud? Call it something else, give it some cool lore than hasbro can sell TFs and "insert poopy bayformer robot title here".
It took me a year or so to finally watch dark side of the moon and I was ashamed to be a TF fan afterwards.
autobotOG wrote: Yes, there were the obvious plotholes (especially in revenge)
Bleak5170 wrote:TheForgottenTaxi wrote:I don't get all the hate for Orci and Kurtzman. I think Transformers Prime proves that they were not the problem.
Agreed. They wrote the first movie which I absolutely loved. And we all know how awesome TF Prime is. I have zero problem with those two.
Burn wrote:So yes, Orci and Kurtzman were very much the problem. They couldn't come up with an original idea between them. Take a look at their track record of writing and see that their big "successes" are based on franchises that have decades of mythology.
Burn wrote:I swear, your comedy has gotten to the level of G1 Starscream since we put staff colours on you.
TheForgottenTaxi wrote:I don't get all the hate for Orci and Kurtzman. I think Transformers Prime proves that they were not the problem.
Anyway, this is just another sign that we're in for more of the same crap with TF4. All I can say about that is: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1YxChiuA398
Burn wrote:Bleak5170 wrote:TheForgottenTaxi wrote:I don't get all the hate for Orci and Kurtzman. I think Transformers Prime proves that they were not the problem.
Agreed. They wrote the first movie which I absolutely loved. And we all know how awesome TF Prime is. I have zero problem with those two.
They're not writing TF Prime though. They're simply only producers. If we're going to give credit to producers then people should either be forming a lynch mob for, or think the sun shines out of Don Murphy's butt.
So yes, Orci and Kurtzman were very much the problem. They couldn't come up with an original idea between them. Take a look at their track record of writing and see that their big "successes" are based on franchises that have decades of mythology.
Autobot032 wrote:What you just said.
MINDVVIPE wrote:Either way, Prime is waaaay better than the flicks.
SlyTF1 wrote:synthetik wrote:I know this thing is being greenlit for making dosh but can we stop dragging TF's good name through puddles of **** mud? Call it something else, give it some cool lore than hasbro can sell TFs and "insert poopy bayformer robot title here".
It took me a year or so to finally watch dark side of the moon and I was ashamed to be a TF fan afterwards.
Oh well.autobotOG wrote: Yes, there were the obvious plotholes (especially in revenge)
No there weren't.
autobotOG wrote:SlyTF1 wrote:synthetik wrote:I know this thing is being greenlit for making dosh but can we stop dragging TF's good name through puddles of **** mud? Call it something else, give it some cool lore than hasbro can sell TFs and "insert poopy bayformer robot title here".
It took me a year or so to finally watch dark side of the moon and I was ashamed to be a TF fan afterwards.
Oh well.autobotOG wrote: Yes, there were the obvious plotholes (especially in revenge)
No there weren't.
No? So you don't think the fact that Megatron could be reanimated with a shard from the allspark, but it was necessary to travel to Egypt and find an ancient autobot relic to reanimate optimus (with shard of allspark in hand, mind you) wasent an OBVIOUS plothole?
autobotOG wrote:See, I saw it a different way...I thought in the battle in the woods, it was optimus's abdominal area that was destroyed (hence the new abs in dark of the Moon), i thought his spark chamber was higher up...in the chest area you could say. Where as, Megatron had the all spark actually INSERTED into his spark chamber, leaving it a charred hole. So it would make more sense to me than an all spark shard would be more effective on optimus. And I get Megatron was rebuilt prior to reanimation, but couldn't ratchet had repaired him enough for him to be brought back to life? That, and Sam knew of the second shards existance 30 minutes into the movie, you would have thought he would have at least tried it first before venturing off into the unknown, right?
Either way, I don't need a seemless plot to enjoy a movie about bots and cons, so I liked it regardless, LOL
autobotOG wrote:See, I saw it a different way...I thought in the battle in the woods, it was optimus's abdominal area that was destroyed (hence the new abs in dark of the Moon), i thought his spark chamber was higher up...in the chest area you could say. Where as, Megatron had the all spark actually INSERTED into his spark chamber, leaving it a charred hole. So it would make more sense to me than an all spark shard would be more effective on optimus. And I get Megatron was rebuilt prior to reanimation, but couldn't ratchet had repaired him enough for him to be brought back to life? That, and Sam knew of the second shards existance 30 minutes into the movie, you would have thought he would have at least tried it first before venturing off into the unknown, right?
Either way, I don't need a seemless plot to enjoy a movie about bots and cons, so I liked it regardless, LOL
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