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News Credits: 88 · by **DavidT** » Mon Jan 12, 2009 9:24 pm

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Has anyone else noticed that the teaser poster of the Fallen resembles the head of a pharaoh. Not the face of course, but surrounding the head. Kinda fits in with the Egyptian stuff in the new movie. Any thoughts???

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News Credits: 2 · by **Shadowman** » Mon Jan 12, 2009 10:28 pm

Actually, looking at that, his face really resembles the Decepticon insignia. But I can see what you mean about the Pharaoh thing, and it's an idea that's been visited in fiction multiple times.

by **Grimlock18** » Tue Feb 03, 2009 5:04 pm

I read that part of the movie is discovering that ancient Transformers visited Egypt way back when and inspired pieces of Egyptian culture. Maybe this is evidence for it.

by **LordGrift** » Wed Feb 04, 2009 2:39 pm

Well you're damn right! I photoshopped this poster so I was able to see almost every detail. The upper and lower parts of The Fallen's face also fits perfectly!!! I'm impressed and shocked. Egypt, pyraminds and now this. Thanks David!

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News Credits: 2 · by **Shadowman** » Fri Feb 06, 2009 8:33 pm

Man, spambots are really getting dumber. Do you think the people who make them understand you can't put subliminal messages into text the same way as spoken word or picture? Really, imagine Kevin Nealon doing "Mr. Subliminal" when you read that.

by **LordGrift** » Tue Feb 10, 2009 5:23 am

Ok now we've seen Fallen's toy. I focused on his face and he still resembles pharoh, especially his chin. I wonder how It will be explained in the movie.

News Credits: 2 · by **Shadowman** » Tue Feb 10, 2009 8:09 am

LordGrift wrote:Ok now we've seen Fallen's toy. I focused on his face and he still resembles pharoh, especially his chin. I wonder how It will be explained in the movie.

They filmed part of the movie in Egypt, right? Ancient Transformer goes to Egypt, teaches people to build (I'm not betting on the Aliens Built Pyramids cliche), then decides to take a 5000 year nap in the pyramids.

by **LordGrift** » Tue Feb 10, 2009 12:45 pm

Shadowman wrote:
LordGrift wrote:Ok now we've seen Fallen's toy. I focused on his face and he still resembles pharoh, especially his chin. I wonder how It will be explained in the movie.

They filmed part of the movie in Egypt, right? Ancient Transformer goes to Egypt, teaches people to build (I'm not betting on the Aliens Built Pyramids cliche), then decides to take a 5000 year nap in the pyramids.

Well I don't think that ancient superadvanced alien robot would like to teach primitive humans how to build :-?

I imagine The Fallen beign somehow disconnected as Megatron so people could worship him and build pyramids around him.

News Credits: 2 · by **Shadowman** » Tue Feb 10, 2009 1:53 pm

LordGrift wrote:
Shadowman wrote:
LordGrift wrote:Ok now we've seen Fallen's toy. I focused on his face and he still resembles pharoh, especially his chin. I wonder how It will be explained in the movie.

They filmed part of the movie in Egypt, right? Ancient Transformer goes to Egypt, teaches people to build (I'm not betting on the Aliens Built Pyramids cliche), then decides to take a 5000 year nap in the pyramids.

Well I don't think that ancient superadvanced alien robot would like to teach primitive humans how to build I imagine The Fallen beign somehow disconnected as Megatron so people could worship him and build pyramids around him.

Hey, if Predators could teach humans how to build, then why couldn't a Decepticon? At least I think he'll be a Decepticon, he wasn't really a 'con in the comics.

by **LordGrift** » Tue Feb 10, 2009 2:07 pm

Shadowman wrote:
LordGrift wrote:
Shadowman wrote:
LordGrift wrote:Ok now we've seen Fallen's toy. I focused on his face and he still resembles pharoh, especially his chin. I wonder how It will be explained in the movie.

They filmed part of the movie in Egypt, right? Ancient Transformer goes to Egypt, teaches people to build (I'm not betting on the Aliens Built Pyramids cliche), then decides to take a 5000 year nap in the pyramids.

Well I don't think that ancient superadvanced alien robot would like to teach primitive humans how to build I imagine The Fallen beign somehow disconnected as Megatron so people could worship him and build pyramids around him.

Hey, if Predators could teach humans how to build, then why couldn't a Decepticon? At least I think he'll be a Decepticon, he wasn't really a 'con in the comics.

I was a big fan of AvP universe before the movie release. I was really fascinated with Predator's habits and lifecycle and I think the idea of Predators teaming with humans was retarded. Anyway it still can be possible in TF movie but I think It can be risky.

by **Raymond101** » Tue Apr 28, 2009 3:04 am

Being a big fan of Egyptian mythos, I'm glad the Fallen is also an admirer :grin:

So far, the most powerful being in this continuity is the inter-dimensional being of the Fallen, yes? (unless the All Spark itself possesses the spirit of Primus or something) But if the Fallen can transform, why does it say that the All Spark *created* the Transformers to *help* the Fallen's race to search for suns? Isn't the Fallen himself a TF?

I would put this list of power like this - any amendments you'd suggest?

1 or N/A: All Spark (since it created the Fallen's race)

2. The Fallen and his brothers (inter-dimensional beings)

3. Megatron/holders of the Prime Dynasty (still not sure what this is, exactly)

4. All Transformers before they became Autobots/Decepticons

News Credits: 1 · by **cybercat** » Tue Apr 28, 2009 7:36 am

Actually, the Fallen looks a LOT more like Akhenaten than Tutankhamun (the gold mask everyone's showing). Akhenaten was the guy who tried to replace the Egyptian panoply of gods with one monotheistic sun god. Might be interesting if they tried to correlate Akhenaten's 'reforms' with the arrival of the Fallen.

HK, overthinking, as per usual.

News Credits: 1 · by **shadowsfm** » Wed Apr 29, 2009 8:48 am

i agree that the fallen isn't a transformer, maybe just a cybertronion. (going by the comic). oh by the way, going by the comic movie universe, the allspark created life on earth

by **syphonn** » Thu Apr 30, 2009 9:22 am

I don't like the Fallen/Pharaoh idea, its almost as bad as the reversed engineered Megatron giving us technology as we know it today idea

by **Deadpool's Lame Joke** » Sat May 02, 2009 10:33 am

Ok, firstly I'm actually kind of liking this idea. I am really interested in how they are going to incorporate all of this together in the movie.

Secondly

shadowsfm wrote: going by the comic movie universe, the allspark created life on earth

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News Credits: 4 · by **DeathBlast** » Sat May 02, 2009 11:51 pm

so that's why some of those ancient egyptian symbols found in the ancient temples look like helicopters,and other vehicles..there really some transformers buried under the pyramids.

that helicopter symbol looks a lot like springer's helicopter mode.