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Ironhde is so much better looking than I was expecting after seeing that Fast Action Battler of him.

Heres johny not really its bonecrusher http://www.tfw2005.com/boards/showthread.php?t=122326

wow, can the retards making this movie **** it up any worse? i just have to laugh now. i know it's only going to get worse so whatever. just when i think these morons can't destroy these great characters anymore than they already have i now see that walking kitchen utensil they call frenzy. there goes yet another character down the toilet. seriously, have these morons even seen tf's EVER?

kimmer wrote:wow, can the retards making this movie **** it up any worse? i just have to laugh now. i know it's only going to get worse so whatever. just when i think these morons can't destroy these great characters anymore than they already have i now see that walking kitchen utensil they call frenzy. there goes yet another character down the toilet. seriously, have these morons even seen tf's EVER?

Seriously. Stop. If you don't like what they're doing you're welcome to comment on the designs and characters themselves. But DO NOT resort to personal insults against the people creating this movie.

Starscream- Oh my god Why are his legs so out of proportion with the rest of his body? He is a jet, not munky! But I'm glad he has some hands.

Ironhide- Looks pretty good to me. Nothing particularly disturbing to me as far as I can tell

Frenzy- WTF? He looks like Transmutate!! It doesn't look like he can transform into anything. Very sad...

HitsugiKun wrote:Heres johny not really its bonecrusher http://www.tfw2005.com/boards/showthread.php?t=122326

Wow his arms are weird, otherwise he looks cool.

Zuko wrote:

kimmer wrote:wow, can the retards making this movie **** it up any worse? i just have to laugh now. i know it's only going to get worse so whatever. just when i think these morons can't destroy these great characters anymore than they already have i now see that walking kitchen utensil they call frenzy. there goes yet another character down the toilet. seriously, have these morons even seen tf's EVER?

Seriously. Stop. If you don't like what they're doing you're welcome to comment on the designs and characters themselves. But DO NOT resort to personal insults against the people creating this movie.

Ah, just ignore him. Seems like everyone else does, especially cuz every single one of his comments slam the movie, and are no where near constructive or useful to any conversation.

Frenzy looks like he's going to rape my children. And then scratch my car.


Luckily for me, I have neither children, nor a car. Oh happy day.

If Frenzy was made into Soundwave...that would have sucked.

Oh God, they are all so very, very ugly, Ironhide being the least ugly but he's still ugly and I don't like him. Maybe if Bonecrusher would be a little better if his legs were longer.

There is no excuse for the Cons though.

OMG they all look like crap

Chickorilla??? Chigorilla? Gorillen??

....Whatever he's supposed to be, that's still not Screamer.

& honestly, are sentient alien robots colorblind? Do they have no color preference at all? I mean, military hardware aside, why are these bots all such drab colors? A little color, IMHO, would make these robots look so much better.

Wow they sure are ****.
If I looked like any one of those pieces of ugly I'd kill myself, for the good of mankind.

FINALLY! There is something that speaks for itself why the Movie bots suck.

FRENZY!

Who accepted Frenzy's design, Helen Keller? Even though she wouldn't see it I bet she can tell Frenzy sucks. I just wish I would understand why you guys accept this. Just because "Transformers" and "Optimus Prime" and "Megatron" along with Peter Cullen doesn't make this Transformers. I mean look, it's quite simple, Animorph Transformers are never considered Transformers since they suck so bad. Honestly I can see no kid wanting any of these toys, they look like alien pedophiles. But what's the use? All I can do is hope for you guys don't go because I bet you'll want a refund afterwords. Oh well, go on and quote me, bash me, threaten me, whatever because it's not worth trying to convince me this garbage is good.

frenzy looks like beast machines botanica...

and everytime i see that... that THING, that monsterous THING that has been given the glorious name of starscream, i die a little inside. at least megatrons monstercon looks cool.
but screamers waspi-cluckinator primal body.. why couldnt thay have used his transtech design too?

i just hope they at least keep true to his character. that will be some redemtion at least.

No no no no NO! Argh! I've been so optimistic for so long about the movie! Even when I saw Megatron (who may very well be one of the better looking 'Cons) my hopes and optimism remained intact. But now... I just can't take it. First Don Murphy was either lying through his teeth to the fans, or was ignored by other people working on this movie, when he claimed "there will be a certain familiarity to the designs. There's no use in making you look at a character and wondering who is that?" The only characters I could identify are Optimus and maybe Bumblebee (only because he's yellow.)

I remember when I first saw the concept art for Starscream and I hoped that my favorite Decepticon wouldn't look that bad. But he does. Frenzy is by far the worst of the bunch. And imagine, there was a chance that could've been Soundwave. I hope they don't make more sequels, because right now I don't want to see anymore of my favorite Transformers made to look like pieces of... gah!

I'm sorry, this post may seem like I'm just ranting, but right now, especially after watching the Don Murphy at Transformerscon videos, I feel like the fans are being... abused. They don't have to listen to what we want necessarily but we still shouldn't be lied to. "The designs will be familiar. You'll be able to recognize the characters." Nope! "The writers are Transformers fans" Nope! "The story will be about Transformers, not just humans" Nope!

Don't get me wrong, I'm glad they bowed to fan influence in the casting of Peter Cullen, I just hope this film doesn't hurt his career in anyway.

What's really too bad is that Bay's marketing campaign is working. One day when I wore my Optimus Prime t-shirt, everywhere I went to people in their mid to late twenties complemented it and talked about how psyched they were for the new movie. These wee the people who remembered Transformers as kids, then kind of grew out of them I suppose. They remember the cartoon and the toys, but probably little else. These people will go see the movie, and help it make money.


To summarize: Bay and co don't give a **** about the hardcore fans and want to capitalize on peoples nostalgia.

Theres a reason why Starscream looks the way he does. There is no magical parts popping out here, so basically whatever vehicle a Transformer chooses, thats the form it will be. The F-22 is a little chunky, not skinny like the F-15C, so like I said, a human shape wouldnt work because of the vehicle mode. I belive Bay mentioned that they went with a Semi instead of a flatbed to make Prime taller

Dark Cyclone wrote:To summarize: Bay and co don't give a **** about the hardcore fans and want to capitalize on peoples nostalgia.

You're absolutely correct. Because if they did cater to our whims they'd make a couple thousand bucks on the movie and it would be a bust.

People think it's some mysterious reason for why things are different. It's to make money folks. Most people want to go see an action flick with robots tearing each other to pieces and bad humor thrown in here and there. That's what Bay is giving them. As far as they're concerned to hell with the fans. I must say I don't blame them either. I want Transformers to be mainstream again. I want people to be talking about Optimus Prime (whatever version of him) while I'm walking around the mall. I'm tired of the same old crap year after year after year.

Theres a reason why the current shows can't even keep a set time. It's because no one cares about the show anymore. You think it was solely Bay who OK'ed the designs? Hell no! You have everyone from Spielberg to Aaron Archer signing off on this stuff. From the get go they probably had a meeting saying "we need to make this appeal to everyone if we hope to get people interested in Transformers again. Let's appeal to the sci-fi, action, adventure, horror etc. genre's. If it has a following then we need to get those people interested".

Our little minuscule cult following has no bearing whatsoever on this movie. And anyone who thought we would actually make a difference with our ranting and complaining was deluding themselves.

Starscream is crap.

Ironhide is okay I guess, the toy looks cool although the barrels under the vehicle is dumb.

Frenzy would be badass if this movie was Rated R because he can cut up some people with those.

Bonecrusher in robot mode....

Some of these designs really are laughable. Look at them!
That's all I have to say this morning...

Frenzy is..........uh........yeeeeeaaaaaahhhhhhh.........looks more like a weird Japanese non-Tf robot than an actual TF.........Bonecrusher I can at least live with.......sort of......better than Starscream & Megatron........you know, it would be nice if all this s**t was just a load & when the movie priemiered it turned out to be all G1 w/real heads, hands, etc, etc.......but well know that ain't happening.....sadly enough.......

Well, I like Ironhide. Frenzy is the funniest thing I ever seen in TF, but kinda cute. Bonecrusher is fine, but I'm not too thrilled of him, yet. I passionately hate Starscream's movie design. Yup, that's all for me.

(Yeah, we all know it's for the money, tell us something we don't know)

So I only looked at Frenzy and the layout was fairly generic. But to me posts like this borderline spoilers that I don't need to know just yet.

I understand some may need to know as much as posible ASAP! I feel the same about the toys. But I want to go into this movie with as clean a slate as possible, and not sit there knowsing every aspect before I see it. So to me this is a spoiler, and I don't want to look anymore into it.

Let 7/4 have enough suprize to either wow or disapoint me. However if you need these facts, then by all means...

Yeah, I share the same sentiment as Decepticlone Soundwave... (and don't hop all over my case opinion police) in the end, I'm just looking at this movie, like I did Beast Machines, RID, and the other post-G1 lines. I'm going to see it in the theater to see it, but I know now more than ever this is a more of a franchise reboot, not a homage to the glory days, and I accept it. We all have our ideas on how the flick should be, but this is what they chose... Hmm, could " 'Botz Not Bugz" be the new "Trukk not Munky" here? heh.

Soundbyte/Frenzy... Wow. Just wow. Some kinda weird chicken thing made out of coathangers. Wow.

Starscream... Pretty certain this is a really early concept from before the arm cannons. Still fugly as hell.

Ironhide... Looks kinda badass, in a spiky, can't-really-tell-what-it-is-cos-the-body's-so-damn-busy kinda way. Of the four, the only one I can see even close to the original character in personality, if not in looks. Still dislike the whole design style, though, and I have to echo the TFW poster who wanted to know why Ironhide gets two arm-mounted BFGs but Megatron can't manage even one...

Bonecrusher... He's a frikkin' Ent! With a full diaper and ridiculously long arms!


Nope, every one of these designs would be a turn-off, if I hadn't already turned off long ago.

Zuko wrote:

Dark Cyclone wrote:To summarize: Bay and co don't give a **** about the hardcore fans and want to capitalize on peoples nostalgia.

You're absolutely correct. Because if they did cater to our whims they'd make a couple thousand bucks on the movie and it would be a bust.

I don't understand why this film had to be SO different from what has gone before. What would be so wrong with having faces that people can recognise and identify with; Human-like faces? Would a little bit of recognition in both Transformer modes really hurt this film that much?

Not one of these designs have a single aspect that I can really identify with; both in the sense that I dislike the designs, and they do not remind me of 'Transformers', at least what that name means to me.

Would it not have been far preferable for the producers of this film to have the majority of the fanbase 100% per cent behind this film? It seems that most people are just pissed off at being called 'whiners' or worse by 9certain) people involved in this film.

I think if they had shown a little respect for helping to keep the whole brand alive for 20 years - because why else would they be making a film now? I don't see any plans for a live action Thundercats film anytime soon - this film would be building up a far greater head of steam.

Internet fanbases can make or break a film (Snakes on a Plane anyone?). Just look at 'Spider-man 3': Every new image or poster or toy design creates ripples of anticipation everywhere. Anytime something new drops over 'Transformers the fandom resumes it's own civil war!